RE: [Finale] Hymn Lyrics
I've done hundreds of hymns in Finale. why not use the Vertical Collision Remover plugin? I do start with a template that has the spacing between lyric verses as well as the spacing from the top staff to the 1st lyrics set. But other than that, I don't bother setting the bottom lyric to bottom staff spacing (which frequently changes from hymn to hymn) or any other vertical spacing settings. I use the default settings of the plugin and almost every time I get a useable document. Even when I enter lyrics on verses 6 or 7 that are well into the bottom staff at the time of entry, the plugin adjusts everything nicely, no messing with page layout & system margins. In my opinion, one of the better plugins for this issue. James Gilbert www.jamesgilbertmusic.com > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Noel Stoutenburg > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 8:15 AM > To: finale@shsu.edu > Subject: Re: [Finale] Hymn Lyrics > > noel jones wrote: > > I think I have layout and everything under control when doing hymns > > except lyrics. > > > > Multiple verses end up making me manually drag staves around, and I > > end up with a sloppy looking book of hymns. > I've done several hundreds of hymns, and here's what I did early on. I > found a spacing between the bottom of the top staff and the first line > of lyrics, a spacing between lines of lyrics, and a spacing between the > last lyric, and the top of the bottom staff that I liked. I set up a > template file, and with all the settings I prefer, spaced to > accommodate > 6 verses. When I do a hymn with more or fewer, I simply set the space > between the bottom lyric and the top line of the bottom staff as > needed. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Hymn Lyrics
noel jones wrote: I think I have layout and everything under control when doing hymns except lyrics. Multiple verses end up making me manually drag staves around, and I end up with a sloppy looking book of hymns. I've done several hundreds of hymns, and here's what I did early on. I found a spacing between the bottom of the top staff and the first line of lyrics, a spacing between lines of lyrics, and a spacing between the last lyric, and the top of the bottom staff that I liked. I set up a template file, and with all the settings I prefer, spaced to accommodate 6 verses. When I do a hymn with more or fewer, I simply set the space between the bottom lyric and the top line of the bottom staff as needed. ns ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Hymn Lyrics
Very good advice. Many thanks, Christopher. noel jones There are several ways to deal with this. Dragging the systems in Page Layout is easy, but inaccurate. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Hymn Lyrics
On Nov 25, 2008, at 6:44 PM, noel jones wrote: I think I have layout and everything under control when doing hymns except lyrics. Multiple verses end up making me manually drag staves around, and I end up with a sloppy looking book of hymns. I know there must be an automatic command that will move things to adjust to multiple lines of lyrics. [well, I hope there is] Running 2008b on a 17" macbook pro, given to me free by Apple when my almost three year old out of warranty 12" Powerbook had to go back for a third time to straighten out problems. There are several ways to deal with this. Dragging the systems in Page Layout is easy, but inaccurate. What I do is this. I go to the Page Layout menu, select Systems>Edit Margins (these items have moved around a little bit recently). The window opens. I drag the SECOND system down to make enough room for the first system lyrics. The setting "distance between systems" refers to the space ABOVE the system you are in, so System 2 shows all the current settings it has in the window. I then set Change System 2 through {leave this blank to change all from 2 to the end} and hit Apply. Now all the systems have the same settings as System 2. You could also select Space Systems Evenly, but I find this item really dumb. If I drag the lower margin of the bottom system down a bit, it prevents the lowest system from hugging the bottom of the page too much, but JW Space Systems plugin was really the greatest way to do this before. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale