RE: [Finale] Mass Copy in Finale 2006

2006-02-01 Thread Fisher, Allen
I always thought shift was used to bypass dialogs, at least in Finale...


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Christopher Smith / 2006/01/31 / 07:08 AM wrote:

John Bell got it right - hold down just the Opt key to skip the 
dialogue box. Once I got this, things got a LOT faster!

My biggest pleasure with 2006 was this new Mass Mover (still can't
remember the new name for this tool!) improvement, but I have been
wondering why the above isn't Cmd key.  Ever since Finale v1.0, Cmd has
been the key to bypass dialog box.

Does anyone know?

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Re: [Finale] Mass Copy in Finale 2006

2006-02-01 Thread Christopher Smith
Well, in this case Shift is the key to hold down to GET the dialogue 
box (along with opt, which you have to hold anyway.)


Christopher


On Feb 1, 2006, at 9:17 AM, Fisher, Allen wrote:

I always thought shift was used to bypass dialogs, at least in 
Finale...



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Subject:Re: [Finale] Mass Copy in Finale 2006

Christopher Smith / 2006/01/31 / 07:08 AM wrote:


John Bell got it right - hold down just the Opt key to skip the
dialogue box. Once I got this, things got a LOT faster!


My biggest pleasure with 2006 was this new Mass Mover (still can't
remember the new name for this tool!) improvement, but I have been
wondering why the above isn't Cmd key.  Ever since Finale v1.0, Cmd has
been the key to bypass dialog box.

Does anyone know?

--

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Re: [Finale] Mass Copy in Finale 2006

2006-02-01 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Fisher, Allen / 2006/02/01 / 09:17 AM wrote:

I always thought shift was used to bypass dialogs, at least in Finale...

Nope.
Example.  Create an expression, then hit OK while Cmd is pressed.  You
bypass the rest of the dialog boxes.  This has been this way since v1.0
which I paid $1,000 for!

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Re: [Finale] Mass Copy in Finale 2006

2006-01-31 Thread John Bell

Brian

Hold down only the opt key as you click on the target measure.

John


On 31 Jan 2006, at 10:28, Brian Williams wrote:


Dear list,

I just started using Finale 2006 for real work and discovered a  
disturbing
new loss of functionality. In the mass mover tool, whenever you  
select a

region and attempt to copy it to other staves you are greeted in every
instance by an annoying dialog box that takes the place of the  
Items to

Copy dialog in previous versions.

I frequently copy the same material to several staves and having to  
click

through this dialog box is a very annoying extra step, especially
considering that the enter and return keys are on the opposite side  
of my
PowerBook keyboard from the option key (which I hold down with the  
shift key

to copy to another staff).

Is there any way to turn off this annoying new feature so that  
opt-shift
clicking on a staff will copy the material with the previous items  
to copy
settings like it did in previous versions without having to hit  
enter or

return to dismiss this dialog every single time?

Brian

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Re: [Finale] Mass Copy in Finale 2006

2006-01-31 Thread Christopher Smith
John Bell got it right - hold down just the Opt key to skip the 
dialogue box. Once I got this, things got a LOT faster!


The dialogue box remembers your settings, which I REALLY like.

The only big loss of functionality with the new copy behaviour (for me 
on Mac, dunno about PC) is that drag-and-drop between documents is now 
disabled, and copy-paste between documents doesn't copy everything, so 
you have to use Clip Files and INSERT them (not Replace Items from Clip 
File) to copy certain items between documents.


And Carolyn Bremer, thank you for your answer about Clear Items, you 
were right on the money. Of course now that I think of it, clearing 
Entries WOULD clear the chords and lyrics anyway, so of course I can 
only clear those things separately when Entries is UNchecked. There is 
even a little yellow popup that tells me this when I mouse over the 
Entries button, so I have no excuse.


Somebody at MakeMusic really got things right with this new copying 
behaviour. I know I've said it before, but this ranks up there with 
Staff Styles, Metatools, and Auto-placing expressions for helping 
productivity.


Christopher


On Jan 31, 2006, at 5:28 AM, Brian Williams wrote:


Dear list,

I just started using Finale 2006 for real work and discovered a 
disturbing
new loss of functionality. In the mass mover tool, whenever you select 
a

region and attempt to copy it to other staves you are greeted in every
instance by an annoying dialog box that takes the place of the Items 
to

Copy dialog in previous versions.

I frequently copy the same material to several staves and having to 
click

through this dialog box is a very annoying extra step, especially
considering that the enter and return keys are on the opposite side of 
my
PowerBook keyboard from the option key (which I hold down with the 
shift key

to copy to another staff).

Is there any way to turn off this annoying new feature so that 
opt-shift
clicking on a staff will copy the material with the previous items to 
copy
settings like it did in previous versions without having to hit enter 
or

return to dismiss this dialog every single time?

Brian

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Re: [Finale] Mass Copy in Finale 2006

2006-01-31 Thread Robert Patterson
 
 copy-paste between documents doesn't copy everything,

Are you talking about meas-attached shapes here? Is that what Fin06 doesn't 
copy that prior versions did copy? I had hoped MM was gonna restore that in a 
maintenance release, but perhaps not, huh?

For me the biggest loss of functionality in the copy behavior is the loss of a 
quick way to toggle between copying everything and copying selected items. But 
I don't use Fin06 at all, except to test with, so I'm not the best person to 
comment.

I've become such an addict of my Mass Copy plugin, that I doubt I would see 
much benefit from the copy/paste improvements in Fin06. Once you get past Mass 
Copy's rather idiosyncratic UI, it seems vastly superior to any partial-copying 
behavior built in to the program. I say this, admittedly, as the author, but I 
wouldn't have put the time into developing it if I hadn't personally felt the 
need for it.




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Re: [Finale] Mass Copy in Finale 2006

2006-01-31 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Christopher Smith / 2006/01/31 / 07:08 AM wrote:

John Bell got it right - hold down just the Opt key to skip the 
dialogue box. Once I got this, things got a LOT faster!

My biggest pleasure with 2006 was this new Mass Mover (still can't
remember the new name for this tool!) improvement, but I have been
wondering why the above isn't Cmd key.  Ever since Finale v1.0, Cmd has
been the key to bypass dialog box.

Does anyone know?

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- Hiro

Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA
http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com


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Re: [Finale] Mass Copy in Finale 2006

2006-01-31 Thread Chuck Israels


On Jan 31, 2006, at 4:08 AM, Christopher Smith wrote:




The only big loss of functionality with the new copy behaviour (for  
me on Mac, dunno about PC) is that drag-and-drop between documents  
is now disabled,


Christopher,

I just tried this, and it does work.  It's a little dicey sometimes -  
slow drawing of the outline of the selected measures, but it is not  
disabled.


and copy-paste between documents doesn't copy everything, so you  
have to use Clip Files and INSERT them (not Replace Items from Clip  
File) to copy certain items between documents.


When you do this (I haven't tried it), does that mean that you add  
new measures into the target document?  Do they appear before the  
selected insertion point?




Somebody at MakeMusic really got things right with this new copying  
behaviour. I know I've said it before, but this ranks up there with  
Staff Styles, Metatools, and Auto-placing expressions for helping  
productivity.




I agree that the copying behavior is much more consistent and  
understandable.  Once I figured it out, it's been working well for me.


Chuck


Chuck Israels
230 North Garden Terrace
Bellingham, WA 98225-5836
phone (360) 671-3402
fax (360) 676-6055
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