Re: [Finale] Hauptstimme
On 2009/09/10, at 21:59, Allen Fisher wrote: And Fenton's correct...this just means there's a spot for it in the spec...I was a member of the Unicode Consortium for awhile. Me too. Not anymore since I don't get L10N jobs anymore. There was such time 10 years ago. Why did I not do saving!! Stoopid. If you have $150 you don't need and want to hear arguments about characters in Burmese or what current glyphs can be combined to form a character in ancient Hebrew...the UC is a great place to be ;-) Not for me :-( Unicode is created for English speaking programmers. It's great if you are software engineer who needs I18N coding. I certainly appreciate Unicode very much. But when I go back to deal with Japanese, have to curse it since Japanese Kanji character table is under Chinese subset. Not cool. Nevertheless, Finale should be Unicode clean. It became minimum requirement ever since OSX and NT5. -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Greater Boston http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Hauptstimme
At 9/9/2009 11:35 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: But I don't think Toccatta was really part of Finale, I thought that was a shareware thing by Blake Hodgetts. I don't have Toccatta on my system. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Hauptstimme
If Finale would support Unicode (ahem ;) ) this would be useful, unfortunately not. And Fenton's correct...this just means there's a spot for it in the spec...I was a member of the Unicode Consortium for awhile. If you have $150 you don't need and want to hear arguments about characters in Burmese or what current glyphs can be combined to form a character in ancient Hebrew...the UC is a great place to be ;-) On Sep 8, 2009, at 6:46 PM, John Howell wrote: At 3:02 PM -0700 9/8/09, Ryan Beard wrote: Hi List, I'm looking for Hauptstimme and Nebenstimme symbols. Can anyone recommend a font? I'm sure this has been covered before, but I can't find it in the archives or in the Finale documentation. Thanks Ryan I don't understand the page, but take at look at http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/1d1a6/index.htm John -- John R. Howell, Assoc. Prof. of Music Virginia Tech Department of Music College of Liberal Arts Human Sciences Blacksburg, Virginia, U.S.A. 24061-0240 Vox (540) 231-8411 Fax (540) 231-5034 (mailto:john.how...@vt.edu) http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/howell/howell.html We never play anything the same way once. Shelly Manne's definition of jazz musicians. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Allen Fisher Founder and Principal Developer Fisher Art and Technology al...@fisherartandtech.com i...@fisherartandtech.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Hauptstimme
Since Finale 97: Help--Character Sets (or something similar...) The printed docs before that did as well. On Sep 9, 2009, at 10:35 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Is there a section in the online manual about the additional fonts? Or a list of characters and the key combos to get them out? Allen Fisher Founder and Principal Developer Fisher Art and Technology al...@fisherartandtech.com i...@fisherartandtech.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Hauptstimme
On 10 Sep 2009 at 20:52, Allen Fisher wrote: Since Finale 97: Help--Character Sets (or something similar...) The printed docs before that did as well. But on the crucial question: What was Coda's role in regard to Blake Hodgetts' fonts? Does the copyright notice just mean they provided him with help in making them Finale compatible, or did Coda distribute them with Finale at some point? -- David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com David Fenton Associates http://dfenton.com/DFA/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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At 3:02 PM -0700 9/8/09, Ryan Beard wrote: Hi List, I'm looking for Hauptstimme and Nebenstimme symbols. Can anyone recommend a font? I'm sure this has been covered before, but I can't find it in the archives or in the Finale documentation. Thanks Ryan I don't understand the page, but take at look at http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/1d1a6/index.htm John -- John R. Howell, Assoc. Prof. of Music Virginia Tech Department of Music College of Liberal Arts Human Sciences Blacksburg, Virginia, U.S.A. 24061-0240 Vox (540) 231-8411 Fax (540) 231-5034 (mailto:john.how...@vt.edu) http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/howell/howell.html We never play anything the same way once. Shelly Manne's definition of jazz musicians. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Hauptstimme
On 8 Sep 2009 at 19:46, John Howell wrote: At 3:02 PM -0700 9/8/09, Ryan Beard wrote: I'm looking for Hauptstimme and Nebenstimme symbols. Can anyone recommend a font? I'm sure this has been covered before, but I can't find it in the archives or in the Finale documentation. Thanks I don't understand the page, but take at look at http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/1d1a6/index.htm Er, Finale doesn't do Unicode, so what use would that be in Finale? And, of course, you'd still have to have a font that had that character defined. That is, just because the Unicode standard allocates a slot for a particular glyph doesn't mean that every font implements every glyph (if you think about it, you'd realize that would be silly -- it would require 65K-odd glyphs defined in every font). It also seems peculiar to me that so many people would suggest add-on fonts when one of the fonts included with Finale since at least Finale 3.x (i.e., Toccatta) includes the requested glyph, unless, of course, the add-on font is superior to Toccatta (so far as I recall, nobody has suggested that, but it could still be true). Doesn't everyone examine the fonts that come with Finale for useful items? -- David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com David Fenton Associates http://dfenton.com/DFA/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Hauptstimme
I'm not sure that most people even know that Finale installs a bunch of fonts other than Maestro and Jazzand the new Broadway font. Is there a section in the online manual about the additional fonts? Or a list of characters and the key combos to get them out? I don't think so. I'd have to boot up the music computer to check. But if there is no mention of Toccatta or other fonts and the extra characters someone might suggest to MakeMusic to put it in the manual. But I don't think Toccatta was really part of Finale, I thought that was a shareware thing by Blake Hodgetts. http://www.efn.org/~bch/AboutFonts.html Though maybe MakeMusic is including the font now with FinaleI don't know. But it is good to know that this character exists in a font. On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 4:46 PM, David W. Fenton lists.fin...@dfenton.com wrote: Er, Finale doesn't do Unicode, so what use would that be in Finale? And, of course, you'd still have to have a font that had that character defined. That is, just because the Unicode standard allocates a slot for a particular glyph doesn't mean that every font implements every glyph (if you think about it, you'd realize that would be silly -- it would require 65K-odd glyphs defined in every font). It also seems peculiar to me that so many people would suggest add-on fonts when one of the fonts included with Finale since at least Finale 3.x (i.e., Toccatta) includes the requested glyph, unless, of course, the add-on font is superior to Toccatta (so far as I recall, nobody has suggested that, but it could still be true). Doesn't everyone examine the fonts that come with Finale for useful items? -- David W. Fenton http://dfenton.com David Fenton Associates http://dfenton.com/DFA/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Hauptstimme
On 8 Sep 2009 at 15:02, Ryan Beard wrote: I'm looking for Hauptstimme and Nebenstimme symbols. Can anyone recommend a font? I'm sure this has been covered before, but I can't find it in the archives or in the Finale documentation. Thanks This is, of course, useless information (since it's coming from me), but the Toccatta font has always had these included. -- David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com David Fenton Associates http://dfenton.com/DFA/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Hauptstimme
Beautiful ones in the Bill Duncan fonts. Chuck Sent from my iPhone On Sep 8, 2009, at 3:02 PM, Ryan Beard rw...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Hi List, I'm looking for Hauptstimme and Nebenstimme symbols. Can anyone recommend a font? I'm sure this has been covered before, but I can't find it in the archives or in the Finale documentation. Thanks Ryan ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Hauptstimme
Hi Ryan--Hope this helps-- According to the archives: Chuck Israels cisra...@comc... wrote I like Hochstimme and Nebenstimme symbols for this. They seem quite useful to me. Bill Duncan's (Oh boy, I seem like a shill for him) new Articulation Font has these symbols. Bob Morabito On Sep 8, 2009, at 6:02 PM, Ryan Beard wrote: Hi List, I'm looking for Hauptstimme and Nebenstimme symbols. Can anyone recommend a font? I'm sure this has been covered before, but I can't find it in the archives or in the Finale documentation. Thanks Ryan ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Hauptstimme
On Tue, September 8, 2009 6:02 pm, Ryan Beard wrote: I'm looking for Hauptstimme and Nebenstimme symbols. Can anyone recommend a font? I'm sure this has been covered before, but I can't find it in the archives or in the Finale documentation. Toccata font -- what Fenton said. Not so useless. :) Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Hauptstimme
If you have Sibelius, full or demo, I think these are included in the associated fonts. Bruce On Sep 8, 2009, at 5:34 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: Beautiful ones in the Bill Duncan fonts. Chuck Sent from my iPhone On Sep 8, 2009, at 3:02 PM, Ryan Beard rw...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Hi List, I'm looking for Hauptstimme and Nebenstimme symbols. Can anyone recommend a font? I'm sure this has been covered before, but I can't find it in the archives or in the Finale documentation. Thanks Ryan ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
