Re: [Finale] copyrights

2009-07-11 Thread Lawrence David Eden

   Has  anyone  sent  their compositions to the Library of Congress to be
   copyrighted? I sent one almost a year ago. Aren't they supposed to send you
   some kind of certificate of copyright? I paid for it, filled out all the
   forms and if you go to search your own copyright they want to charge you a
   fee to search for it. What kind of nonsense is that?



   Any suggestions? Thank you in advance---Brian



Hey Brian,

I live in the Washington, D.C. area and I registered a piece with the 
Library about 25 years ago...please notice that I have not bothered 
to register anything else.  I appeared in person to register my 
composition but I never got any acknowledgement from the Library's 
Copyright Officeof course, I am expecting one to arrive in the 
mail real soon :-)


Larry
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Re: [Finale] copyrights

2009-07-11 Thread David McKay
With all you folk submitting your compositions, no wonder they haven't
replied. They're run off their feet with all this cataloguing!
David McKay

2009/7/11 Lawrence David Eden lde...@comcast.net

   Has  anyone  sent  their compositions to the Library of Congress to be
   copyrighted? I sent one almost a year ago. Aren't they supposed to send
 you
   some kind of certificate of copyright? I paid for it, filled out all the
   forms and if you go to search your own copyright they want to charge you
 a
   fee to search for it. What kind of nonsense is that?



   Any suggestions? Thank you in advance---Brian



 Hey Brian,

 I live in the Washington, D.C. area and I registered a piece with the
 Library about 25 years ago...please notice that I have not bothered to
 register anything else.  I appeared in person to register my composition but
 I never got any acknowledgement from the Library's Copyright Officeof
 course, I am expecting one to arrive in the mail real soon :-)

 Larry

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Re: [Finale] copyrights

2009-07-11 Thread George Boziwick

Hi Brian and the list:
I've recently registered some new pieces on-line with the copyright office.

It does take quite a long time before the registration is 
issued.  The good thing about the on-line registration is that they 
email you a case number and if they need to communicate something to 
you regarding your registration they will contact you.

Try sending them an email at this addresscop...@loc.gov
all best,
gb

George Boziwick

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Re: [Finale] copyrights

2009-07-11 Thread Andrew Stiller


On Jul 10, 2009, at 6:38 PM, trumpe...@verizon.net wrote:



   Has  anyone  sent  their compositions to the Library of Congress to 
be
   copyrighted? I sent one almost a year ago. Aren't they supposed to 
send you
   some kind of certificate of copyright? I paid for it, filled out 
all the
   forms and if you go to search your own copyright they want to 
charge you a

   fee to search for it. What kind of nonsense is that?


As a music publisher, I send in stuff to the Copyright Office all the 
time,  including my own works.  In the past it has normally taken about 
a month to get the certificate  back, but this year there is an 
extremely heavy backlog,  so severe that the office is estimating  that 
those at the end of the line may have to wait up to *two years* for 
processing.


Part of the problem is the recession: the number of personnel handling 
copyright submissions has decreased while the number of submissions has 
continued to increase--as it has been doing for decades  now.


To try to get ahead of this, LOC has set up an online system whereby 
one can (at least theoretically) file a copyright claim online. They 
give a $10 discount to anyone who registers that way. Unfortunately, 
whoever set up this system is so paranoid about security that the 
registration process on line is incredibly cumbersome and annoying--to 
the point that I wouldn't use it even if  it were free. To create a 
password, for instance, you have to follow a whole page of instructions 
guaranteed to make the password absolutely unrememberable--then they 
add a clause telling you that you have to *change* the password (using 
the same rules) *whenever they tell you to,* regardless of reason or 
frequency. I might add that if  the password creation algorithm is 
followed literally, one cannot use the letters A, I, or O, or any 
two-letter combination that spells a word.


--And they still require you to  mail in two deposit copies, so a 
package  needs to be sent to them anyway.


Small wonder then that everybody is ignoring the online registration 
system and keeping to the old method, despite the increasingly long 
wait for results.


The Copyright Office, though it still accepts the paper registration 
forms, no longer makes them available for printout. You have to xerox 
your own blank copies to fill in.  I suspect their next step will be to 
refuse  the paper submissions altogether--at which  point, unless the 
online system is drastically simplified, I intend to simply mark my 
publications as copyrighted, and not formally register them at all. 
That provides adequate protection for most purposes.


Andrew Stiller
Kallisti Music Press
http://www.kallistimusic.com/

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