Re: [Fink-devel] Gettext stable-unstable switching on 10.4 tree
On Feb 25, 2006, at 2:16 PM, Dave Vasilevsky wrote: On Feb 25, 2006, at 4:07 PM, David R. Morrison wrote: So its only because we don't have a deb for (old) gettext-tools? If I built the old gettext-tools first it would be OK? Gah, I've been getting things wrong. Lemme see if I can get this straight. We have these packages in stable: gettext (-bin -dev -tools) 0.10.40-19 And in unstable: gettext (-dev) 0.10.40-24 libgettext3-shlibs (-dev gettext-bin gettext-doc) 0.14.5-1 gettext-tools (libgettextpo2-dev libgettextpo2-shlibs) 0.14.5-3 The problem occurs on the upgrade from gettext 0.10.x in stable to gettext 0.10.x in unstable, right? I was getting this mixed up before, so you can neglect my last mail. Correct. What we need then is to ensure that the old gettext-bin/tools are no longer installed at the time when the new gettext is installed. Either the gettext-bin/tools packages could be completely uninstalled, or they could be upgraded to the new gettext-bin/ tools--both situations would work. It's still possible that adding to the new gettext Conflicts: gettext-bin ( 0.14.5-1), gettext-tools ( 0.14.5-1) would satisfy, I'm not sure how the dep engine would treat that. This basically works (with BuildConflicts rather than Conflicts), but uncovers another bug in the dep engine, also reported recently on the mailing list. Namely, fink uninstalls gettext-bin and gettext-tools at the beginning of the process, but then (apparently) tries to reinstall them after just installing a single package from the update list. Or, we could be hacky and add 'fink build gettext-bin gettext- tools' to the new gettext's CompileScript, like we used to do in some other weird case. This doesn't work, but it does work to add 'fink remove gettext-bin gettext-tools' to the new gettext's CompileScript. However, I'm having trouble getting fink to bootstrap with the new gettext in place (in the 10.4 directory within the bootstrap directory) as well as libgettext3. Will keep trying for a while; don't want to move libgettext3 and the new gettext to stable until we can also bootstrap with them. -- Dave --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Some observations on Gnome on Intel Macs
On Sun, Feb 26, 2006 at 11:39:45AM -0500, Daniel Johnson wrote: The issue is that gnome-vfs2 2.10.x is too new for control-center2 and gnome-panel which are both 2.6.x. The methods they rely on no longer exist. Now that we have KDE3.5.1, gnome-menus, a dependency for modern version of the gnome stuff that is still in the GNOME2.6 era, can be added. There's a -submissions for it that needs work, and a version in my exp that I think is usable. dan -- Daniel Macks [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.netspace.org/~dmacks --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] How to deal with gconf files?
On Sun, Feb 26, 2006 at 07:16:39PM -0500, Sebastien Maret wrote: I am updating the gnucash package in fink, but I don't know how to deal with gconf files. There are two types of files. The first ones are .schema files, that get installed in %i/sw/etc/gconf/schemas. For what i saw in other packages, I think that one must past the --disable-schemas-install option to the configure script, declare these files as ConfFiles, and make a PostInstScript: if [ configure = $1 ]; then export GCONF_CONFIG_SOURCE=`gconftool-2 --get-default-source` gconftool-2 --makefile-install-rule %p/etc/gconf/schemas/foo.schemas /dev/null gconftool-2 --makefile-install-rule %p/etc/gconf/schemas/bar.schemas /dev/null endif Right. I'm not convinced this is correct, but it's the current standard for fink packages. The second type of files are .xml files that get installed in %i/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/schemas/apps/gnucash. What should I do with those? I think those are created on-the-fly by the gconftool-2 --makefile-install-rule call. If you pass --disable-schemas-install, are they still present? dan -- Daniel Macks [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.netspace.org/~dmacks --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Gettext stable-unstable switching on 10.4 tree
On Sat, Feb 25, 2006 at 06:48:21AM -0800, David R. Morrison wrote: There is a deeper issue here which perhaps we need to resolve: when is it appropriate for a dependency to say (= %v-%r) and when should it say (= %v-%r)? My first take on this is that among splitoffs of a given package, the -dev should often have (= %v-%r) on the -shlibs. However, perhaps the -bin (and anything else) should have (= %v-%r). I concur. Fink's shlibs policy and modern libtool implementation is that for install_name libfoo.1.dylib: foo-dev:libfoo.dylib - libfoo.1.1.0.dylib foo-shlibs: libfoo.1.dylib - libfoo.1.1.0.dylib foo-shlibs: libfoo.1.1.0.dylib (actual file) The dependency must be = in order to have foo-dev work reliably. Different versions of foo-shlibs, higher or lower, might have different libfoo.1.x.y.dylib. The only way = would not be needed is for: foo-dev:libfoo.dylib - libfoo.1.dylib foo-shlibs: libfoo.1.dylib - libfoo.1.1.0.dylib foo-shlibs: libfoo.1.1.0.dylib (actual file) By definition, all versions of foo-shlibs contain libfoo.1.dylib, so any version of foo-dev will have valid symlinks. A = dependency would still be important for sanity, for example, to assure that foo.h in foo-dev doesn't declare things that aren't in an older compatibility_version of the lib. For a -bin splitoff of a package that also contains a -shlibs component all in the same .info, = is really only needed as a side effect of compatibility_version. dan -- Daniel Macks [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.netspace.org/~dmacks --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
[Fink-devel] Proposal: New percent-expansion for full version (Was: HEAD buildlocks (and maybe others?) don't handle epoch)
On Feb 27, 2006, at 10:11 AM, Daniel Macks wrote: So either there's a bug in get_depends (either its implementation or how it is being called in this code snippet) or there's a bug in your .info file (missing %e in the Depends line). It's a bug in the .info file. The SplitOffs had Depends: %N (= %v-% r). But now that there's an epoch, that should be Depends: %N (= %e: %v-%r). I propose that we add a %V expansion for full version, so we can just write (= %V) and forget about whether or not an epoch is needed. Any objections? Dave PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Fink-devel] ESP Ghostscript
At Sun, 26 Feb 2006 14:42:15 -0500, Daniel Johnson wrote: At the very least, this needs to backup any existing files and restore them at package removal. A better solution is to include a script with the package which does the actual installation into /usr and handles restoration at removal. This way the user must explicitly choose to do this rather than being surprised by simply installing a package. The package's PreRm should also call this script to ensure that the package will clean up after itself. The postfix package does something like this with its mta-switch script. I see. Such a script is now included and I let the script be not called automatically when installing. Thanks for your advice! -- Tomoaki Okayama / Todai Fink Team --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] ghemical, freeglut, 10.4
On 2/27/06, William Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Folks: I just changed ghemical's dependency (not to be confused with chemical dependency) from glut to freeglut on my machine and verified that this works. There is currently no maintainer for ghemical. Does anyone mind if I update it? Unless someone is chomping at the bit, I could try to maintain it and possibly augment it (it currently lacks the functionality provided by external code, if I am reading the web page right). Which then brings up the ever-popular glut/freeglut issue: Should we try to change over in the 10.4 tree? These packages currently depend on glut: graphics/glui.info graphics/lablgl.info graphics/lightlab.info kde/kdegraphics3.info libs/gle3.info libs/libsmoke.info sci/fung-calc.info sci/gdis.info sci/gopenmol.info x11/xplanet.info and these on freeglut: sci/coot.info (sci/ghemical.info) sci/molmol.info sci/nightfall.info sci/pymol-py.info sci/xmakemol.info x11/freeglut.info Bill I believe that the Standard Operating Procedure in these cases is that anybody with commits access can make changes to unmaintained packages. (And suffer the wrath of everybody else if they do something that causes the list to get flooded with complaints) :-) -- Alexander K. Hansen Fink Documenter [Day Job] Levitated Dipole Experiment http://psfcwww2.psfc.mit.edu/ldx/ --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Proposal: New percent-expansion for full version (Was: HEAD buildlocks (and maybe others?) don't handle epoch)
On Mon, Feb 27, 2006 at 01:58:19PM -0500, Chris Zubrzycki wrote:
On Feb 27, 2006, at 1:22 PM, Dave Vasilevsky wrote:
It's a bug in the .info file. The SplitOffs had Depends: %N (= %v-%
r). But now that there's an epoch, that should be Depends: %N (= %
e:%v-%r).
I propose that we add a %V expansion for full version, so we can
just write (= %V) and forget about whether or not an epoch is
needed. Any objections?
Yamean
if (defined $epoch) {%V=%e:%v-%r} else {%V=%v-%r}
I like it! Very useful. No side effects, not gonna break anything.
dan
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Re: [Fink-devel] Re: mixed blt-dev dependencies on pythons
On Sat, Feb 25, 2006 at 09:20:24PM -0500, Jack Howarth wrote: I believe the BuildConflicts on blt-dev was added to python24 by Daniel Macks to avoid it accidentally being linked into python24. The note at... http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/fink/dists/10.4-transitional/unstable/main/finkinfo/languages/python24.info?rev=1.8view=markup ...indicates Daniel was unclear if he should do the same for python23. The issue is that python autodetects blt-dev and links against blt if it is present, but blt-dev was not a dependency nor were any flags used to force it to be unused if present. That's a fundamental packaging bug: either it must always be used (and hence a dependency) or never be used (autodetection must fail). blt has a lot of dependencies, its upstream looked pretty inactive, and I couldn't find a reason to have it included, so I leaned towards never using it. Email to python* maintainer went unanswered and un-acted-upon, so I added blt-dev as a BuildConflicts to avoid having it autodetected. I did this to both python23 and python24. It's clear that maintainer knew I was monkeying with python/blt at that point because I screwed up the python23 fix and he repaired it. So if we need python24 with blt, let's just add it (and rev-up obviously) and check to see if we need to add it as a dependency of things that link to python24. dan -- Daniel Macks [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.netspace.org/~dmacks --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
[Fink-devel] Re: Fink-devel digest, Vol 1 #2227 - 14 msgs
If gle3 switches to using freeglut, does that break things that link against gle3 and were compiled when gle3 was using glut? dan I just grepped through the 10.4 info files and couldn't find anything that depends on gle3... I was going to test this to see. Bill --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
[Fink-devel] KDE builds on Intel! (mostly)
Just to let everyone know, I've built all of bundle-kde on Intel, except for kdeaccessibility3 and koffice. Along the way I've fixed Intel building of some dependecies and emailed maintainers about some others. The blocker for kdeaccessibility3 is gstreamer (at least) which uses assembly language files for it's x86 build. Unfortunately, Apple's assembler appears to use a different syntax than the Gnu assembler and dies horribly when trying to parse the files. It's possible to use the generic C code instead, but it won't be simple to decouple the assembly code from the rest of the x86isms. This could turn out to be a problem with other assembly-using packages. -- Daniel Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP public key: http://homepage.mac.com/danielj7/publickey.txt PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part
[Fink-devel] Q: Trees search order or precedence?
Hi, I have the following setting in my fink.conf file: Trees: local/main stable/main stable/crypto unstable/main I am working on a package project that I keep updating to the local tree. Two other packages with the same name exist under both stable and unstable trees. Which is the proper way to tell fink(8) which tree it should work on? Or which is the search order for directories listed under the Trees configuration directive? All documentation examples show work on new packages. It would be great to include at least one case where the package already exists in the public trees. Thanks in advance. Regards __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] KDE builds on Intel! (mostly)
On Feb 27, 2006, at 9:57 PM, Daniel Johnson wrote: The blocker for kdeaccessibility3 is gstreamer (at least) which uses assembly language files for it's x86 build. Unfortunately, Apple's assembler appears to use a different syntax than the Gnu assembler and dies horribly when trying to parse the files. It's possible to use the generic C code instead, but it won't be simple to decouple the assembly code from the rest of the x86isms. This could turn out to be a problem with other assembly-using packages. Which version of gstreamer fails, and what's the error? I think the gstreamer folks removed most of their assembly code lately. Dave PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Fink-devel] ghemical, freeglut, 10.4
William Scott wrote: Hi Folks: I just changed ghemical's dependency (not to be confused with chemical dependency) from glut to freeglut on my machine and verified that this works. There is currently no maintainer for ghemical. Does anyone mind if I update it? Unless someone is chomping at the bit, I could try to maintain it and possibly augment it (it currently lacks the functionality provided by external code, if I am reading the web page right). The current version of ghemical in fink (1.0.x) has babel and mini-mopac support built in. The newer 1.9x series uses externals for those. One of those external functionalities is MPQC-- the Massively-Parallel Quantum Chemistry package. I have gotten it to build in uniprocessor mode, but I don't really want to maintain a fink package since I lack the massively-parallel hardware to test it the way it was meant to be used. If anyone is interested, you need a few things: mpqc-2.3.0.tar.bz2 (the latest version from mpqc.sourceforge.net. Anything earlier won't work)gcc 4 (gcc 3.3 failed miserably)fortran (g77-3.4.3-13 worked for me)the following flags for configure: --disable-parallel --with-libdirs=-L/sw/lib -framework vecLib --with-flibs=-lg2cThe funny business with putting -framework vecLib in libdirs is because configure ignores certain popular environment variables like LDFLAGS.and this patch for configure:--- configure.original 2006-02-27 21:23:51.0 -0800+++ configure 2006-01-14 11:03:42.0 -0800@@ -4312,7 +4312,7 @@ ;; # Ignore these flags.- -lang* | -lcrt[01].o | -lcrtbegin.o | -lc | -lgcc | -libmil | -LANG:=*)+ -lang* | -lcrt[012].o | -lcrtbegin.o | -lc | -lgcc | -libmil | -LANG:=*) ;; -lkernel32) test x"$CYGWIN" != xyes ac_cv_f77_libs="$ac_cv_f77_libs $ac_arg"The result passes make check0 in 20 minutes and make check1 in 31 hours, with no errors on my 700MHz G4 iMac. I'm afraid to try make check2.Cheers,Mark Tracy
