On Apr 18, 2005, at 8:43 PM, Chris Zubrzycki wrote:
Ok, here is my proposal, officially posted to the world. Users may not
like it too much, but I honestly think it's the best way for us to
handle it.
Users will have 2 choices:
a) reinstall fink from scratch
b) apt-get dist-upgrade
No other options will be supported officially. They can try to just
update manually, but anything c++ will require patience to build in
the correct order
We create bindists for both stable, and unstable, with package lists
for users to review before upgrading, basically what builds under
tiger and what does not. (IMO a stable tiger tree is an oxymoron at
the moment, since we have 0 feedback on packages other than that they
build, identical for unstable). ANY packages that do not build go back
to experimental, and dummy placeholders are put into the bindist, so
users cannot try to link against broken libs.
This will allow immediate upgrade, without the bother of a
transitional tree. Any admin worth his salt will treat 10.4 as any new
os; a major upgrade, and if the mission-critical software is not
available yet, needs to wait to deploy. We will work as hard as we can
to get everything built, Matt Sachs has been a giant help with that.
There is no time for any other solution, really, hopefully we can use
Matt's build scripts as a start and then tweak it to be a full
auto-build system. gpg-signed debs by the main fink devs could be
submitted and then mirrored, to help speed the process. Private seeds
of GM would be wonderful from Apple (since we are already under NDA
and i guess represent 100k+ mac machines)...I do not know if there
will be subtle problems building on the last seeded release. If not,
Matt might be able to get everything built in time, get us access to
machines with tiger gm to build from.
-chris zubrzycki
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I think this could work out, provided that we make sure to put out an
announcement that people who have "mission-critical" stuff may want to
hold off on upgrading (which is generally true anyway).
From my experience dealing with users, it seems like there are many
people who want to live on the bleeding-edge. and those that are more
cautious tend not to upgrade their OS until the known issues are
resolved.
--
Alexander K. Hansen
Associate Research Scientist, Columbia University
visiting MIT Plasma Science and Fusion Center
Levitated Dipole Experiment
175 Albany Street, NW17-219
Cambridge, MA 02139-4213
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