Re: Fwd: [Fink-devel] unsupported 10.4.4 and G5 Quad requires fink modification.
On Mon, Jan 30, 2006 at 11:53:55PM +0100, Martin Costabel wrote: > > After some more exchanges with BuildSmart, [...] but he more or less > convinced me (*) that he is right, and Apple did indeed deliver his > machine with a system containing perl-5.8.7. Is there no way to get > a confirmation from Apple (msachs?) In any case, 5.8.7 is the > current released version of perl, Only for another week or two probably...5.8.8-rc1 was released January 20. The only reason fink would probably *have* to start supporting it is if this /usr/bin/perl5.8.7 is real. The only reason we would probably bother supporting it is if 5.8.8 doesn't get out anytime soon. dan -- Daniel Macks [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.netspace.org/~dmacks --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=103432&bid=230486&dat=121642 ___ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: Fwd: [Fink-devel] unsupported 10.4.4 and G5 Quad requires fink modification.
David R. Morrison wrote: [] In that case, it sounds like whoever created your Government/Corporate install media replaced the perl 5.8.6 that was supplied by Apple with a newer perl 5.8.7. You should contact those people and explain to them that their action has made it impossible to use fink on the machine. After some more exchanges with BuildSmart, I still don't quite know how he managed to get the output of perl -V that he got (he did fiddle with his perl after the installation), but he more or less convinced me (*) that he is right, and Apple did indeed deliver his machine with a system containing perl-5.8.7. Is there no way to get a confirmation from Apple (msachs?) In any case, 5.8.7 is the current released version of perl, so Fink will sooner or later have to think about supporting it. (*) The most convincing argument is an extract from lsbom of the Essentials.pkg showing among others rw-r--r-- rootwheel ./System/Library/Perl/5.8.7/CPAN.pm 223,798 Tue Jan 3 18:22:10 2006 -- Martin --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=103432&bid=230486&dat=121642 ___ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Fwd: [Fink-devel] unsupported 10.4.4 and G5 Quad requires fink modification.
Begin forwarded message:From: "David R. Morrison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: January 30, 2006 11:15:15 AM PSTTo: BuildSmart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: Re: [Fink-devel] unsupported 10.4.4 and G5 Quad requires fink modification. On Jan 29, 2006, at 12:10 PM, BuildSmart wrote: On Jan 29, 2006, at 10:51 , Chris Zubrzycki wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-Hash: SHA1On Jan 29, 2006, at 10:27 AM, Martin Costabel wrote: BuildSmart wrote:[] My installed Apple perl is 5.8.7mustangrestomods:~ websrvr$ perl -VSummary of my perl5 (revision 5 version 8 subversion 7) configuration: Platform: osname=darwin, osvers=8.4, archname=darwin-thread-multi-2level uname='darwin mustangrestomods.com 8.4.0 Darwin Kernel Version 8.4.0: Tue Jan 3 18:22:10 PST 2006; root:xnu-792.6.56.obj~2/release_ppc power macintosh powerpc ' This uname looks as if your Perl was built by you or by someone at your place on Jan 3. Is this really /usr/bin/perl or some /usr/local/bin/perl? If it is /usr/bin/perl, why would you replace apple's supplied perl? /usr is only for the system software maker. /usr/local, /opt/ and others are for the local admins. I see, so you are now assuming I changed it and that it didn't come on the install media.The machine is 3 days old, nothing has been replaced, everything installed is from the Government/Corporate install media. In that case, it sounds like whoever created your Government/Corporate install media replaced the perl 5.8.6 that was supplied by Apple with a newer perl 5.8.7. You should contact those people and explain to them that their action has made it impossible to use fink on the machine.Fink supports machines on which the Apple-supplied software has not been modified. We don't have the resources to support other configurations. (Although I suppose that if your Corporate IT group that modified Apple's software wants to hire a member of the fink team to expand fink in this way, it could happen!) -- Dave
Re: [Fink-devel] unsupported 10.4.4 and G5 Quad requires fink modification.
On Jan 29, 2006, at 10:51 , Chris Zubrzycki wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jan 29, 2006, at 10:27 AM, Martin Costabel wrote: BuildSmart wrote: [] My installed Apple perl is 5.8.7 mustangrestomods:~ websrvr$ perl -V Summary of my perl5 (revision 5 version 8 subversion 7) configuration: Platform: osname=darwin, osvers=8.4, archname=darwin-thread-multi-2level uname='darwin mustangrestomods.com 8.4.0 Darwin Kernel Version 8.4.0: Tue Jan 3 18:22:10 PST 2006; root:xnu-792.6.56.obj~2/release_ppc power macintosh powerpc ' This uname looks as if your Perl was built by you or by someone at your place on Jan 3. Is this really /usr/bin/perl or some /usr/ local/bin/perl? If it is /usr/bin/perl, why would you replace apple's supplied perl? /usr is only for the system software maker. /usr/local, /opt/ and others are for the local admins. I see, so you are now assuming I changed it and that it didn't come on the install media. The machine is 3 days old, nothing has been replaced, everything installed is from the Government/Corporate install media. - -chris zubrzycki -- Dale --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=103432&bid=230486&dat=121642 ___ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] unsupported 10.4.4 and G5 Quad requires fink modification.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jan 29, 2006, at 10:27 AM, Martin Costabel wrote: BuildSmart wrote: [] My installed Apple perl is 5.8.7 mustangrestomods:~ websrvr$ perl -V Summary of my perl5 (revision 5 version 8 subversion 7) configuration: Platform: osname=darwin, osvers=8.4, archname=darwin-thread-multi-2level uname='darwin mustangrestomods.com 8.4.0 Darwin Kernel Version 8.4.0: Tue Jan 3 18:22:10 PST 2006; root:xnu-792.6.56.obj~2/ release_ppc power macintosh powerpc ' This uname looks as if your Perl was built by you or by someone at your place on Jan 3. Is this really /usr/bin/perl or some /usr/ local/bin/perl? If it is /usr/bin/perl, why would you replace apple's supplied perl? / usr is only for the system software maker. /usr/local, /opt/ and others are for the local admins. - -chris zubrzycki - - -- PGP public key: http://homepage.mac.com/beren/publickey.txt ID: 0xA2ABC070 Fingerprint: 26B0 BA6B A409 FA83 42B3 1688 FBF9 8232 A2AB C070 "Twice blessed is help unlooked for." --Tolkien -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (Darwin) Comment: Please sign reply-http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAkPc5HoACgkQ+/mCMqKrwHCQHgCgpvv/MH3cvr6q7fs7zXh8aru+ soAAoNmHJby0MV8rByBcq4wCSWh+BBdZ =KhOh -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=103432&bid=230486&dat=121642 ___ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] unsupported 10.4.4 and G5 Quad requires fink modification.
BuildSmart wrote: [] My installed Apple perl is 5.8.7 mustangrestomods:~ websrvr$ perl -V Summary of my perl5 (revision 5 version 8 subversion 7) configuration: Platform: osname=darwin, osvers=8.4, archname=darwin-thread-multi-2level uname='darwin mustangrestomods.com 8.4.0 Darwin Kernel Version 8.4.0: Tue Jan 3 18:22:10 PST 2006; root:xnu-792.6.56.obj~2/release_ppc power macintosh powerpc ' This uname looks as if your Perl was built by you or by someone at your place on Jan 3. Is this really /usr/bin/perl or some /usr/local/bin/perl? -- Martin --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=103432&bid=230486&dat=121642 ___ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
[Fink-devel] unsupported 10.4.4 and G5 Quad requires fink modification.
NEW 2.5 Quad G5 Tower with bumdled OSXS install media for Corporate/ Government use. Going over my OSXS 10.4.4 Corporate/Government install media it seems that my XCode is 2.2.1. I can't build any source files, I'm getting errors during build. Failed: Can't resolve dependency "system-perl586" My installed Apple perl is 5.8.7 mustangrestomods:~ websrvr$ perl -V Summary of my perl5 (revision 5 version 8 subversion 7) configuration: Platform: osname=darwin, osvers=8.4, archname=darwin-thread-multi-2level uname='darwin mustangrestomods.com 8.4.0 Darwin Kernel Version 8.4.0: Tue Jan 3 18:22:10 PST 2006; root:xnu-792.6.56.obj~2/ release_ppc power macintosh powerpc ' config_args='-ds -e -Dprefix=/usr -Dccflags=-g -pipe - Dldflags=-Dman3ext=3pm -Duseithreads -Duseshrplib' hint=recommended, useposix=true, d_sigaction=define usethreads=define use5005threads=undef useithreads=define usemultiplicity=define useperlio=define d_sfio=undef uselargefiles=define usesocks=undef use64bitint=undef use64bitall=undef uselongdouble=undef usemymalloc=n, bincompat5005=undef Compiler: cc='cc', ccflags ='-g -pipe -fno-common -DPERL_DARWIN -no-cpp- precomp -fno-strict-aliasing -I/usr/local/include', optimize='-Os', cppflags='-no-cpp-precomp -g -pipe -fno-common -DPERL_DARWIN -no- cpp-precomp -fno-strict-aliasing -I/usr/local/include' ccversion='', gccversion='3.3 20030304 (Apple Computer, Inc. build 1819)', gccosandvers='' intsize=4, longsize=4, ptrsize=4, doublesize=8, byteorder=4321 d_longlong=define, longlongsize=8, d_longdbl=define, longdblsize=8 ivtype='long', ivsize=4, nvtype='double', nvsize=8, Off_t='off_t', lseeksize=8 alignbytes=8, prototype=define Linker and Libraries: ld='env MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET=10.4 cc', ldflags ='-L/usr/ local/lib' libpth=/usr/local/lib /usr/lib libs=-ldbm -ldl -lm -lc perllibs=-ldl -lm -lc libc=/usr/lib/libc.dylib, so=dylib, useshrplib=true, libperl=libperl.dylib gnulibc_version='' Dynamic Linking: dlsrc=dl_dlopen.xs, dlext=bundle, d_dlsymun=undef, ccdlflags=' ' cccdlflags=' ', lddlflags='-bundle -undefined dynamic_lookup -L/ usr/local/lib' Characteristics of this binary (from libperl): Compile-time options: MULTIPLICITY USE_ITHREADS USE_LARGE_FILES PERL_IMPLICIT_CONTEXT Locally applied patches: 23953 - fix for File::Path::rmtree CAN-2004-0452 security issue 33990 - fix for setuid perl security issues Built under darwin Compiled at Jan 03 2006 09:25:20 %ENV: PERL5LIB="/sw/lib/perl5:/sw/lib/perl5/darwin" @INC: /sw/lib/perl5 /sw/lib/perl5/darwin /System/Library/Perl/5.8.7/darwin-thread-multi-2level /System/Library/Perl/5.8.7 /Library/Perl/5.8.7/darwin-thread-multi-2level /Library/Perl/5.8.7 /Library/Perl /Network/Library/Perl/5.8.7/darwin-thread-multi-2level /Network/Library/Perl/5.8.7 /Network/Library/Perl /System/Library/Perl/Extras/5.8.7/darwin-thread-multi-2level /System/Library/Perl/Extras/5.8.7 /Library/Perl/5.8.1 . mustangrestomods:~ websrvr$ gcc -v Using built-in specs. Target: powerpc-apple-darwin8 Configured with: /private/var/tmp/gcc/gcc-5250.obj~12/src/configure -- disable-checking -enable-werror --prefix=/usr --mandir=/share/man -- enable-languages=c,objc,c++,obj-c++ --program-transform-name=/^[cg] [^.-]*$/s/$/-4.0/ --with-gxx-include-dir=/include/c++/4.0.0 -- build=powerpc-apple-darwin8 --host=powerpc-apple-darwin8 -- target=powerpc-apple-darwin8 Thread model: posix gcc version 4.0.1 (Apple Computer, Inc. build 5250) mustangrestomods:~ websrvr$ I tried to install the XCode from the OSXS 10.4 install media but it says that it wont install on this machine complaining about an 'Unknown Boot ROM Version: 5.1.7c3, please update to 5.1.5f0' and the machine refuses to downgrade to 10.4.0 complaining that it's not supported. I tried to build fink from source, adjusted scripts to include checks for perl 5.8.7 (in more than one file) and it wont even build gettext before it fails. Default compiler has been set to: gcc version 4.0.1 (Apple Computer, Inc. build 5250) ./configure --prefix=/sw/bootstrap --infodir=/sw/bootstrap/share/info --mandir=/sw/bootstrap/share/man --with-included-gettext creating cache ./config.cache checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c checking whether build environment is sane... yes checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... yes checking for working aclocal... found checking for working autoconf... found checking for working automake... found checking for working autoheader... found checking for working makeinfo... found checking for gcc... gcc checking whether the C compiler (gcc -L/sw/src/fink.build/ gettext-0.10.40-19/gettext-0.10.40/intl/.libs -L/sw/bootstrap/lib) works... no configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executable