Re: [Fink-devel] domain, need reply from key team at very least

2003-01-13 Thread Jared
How about finkx.org? Everyone can agree the X is important and is cross 
culture (unlike hq which didn't go over so well). It's open across the 
board, as well.

On Monday, January 13, 2003, at 03:46  PM, Jim White wrote:

Justin Hallett wrote:

I personally don't like it, ppl won't remember it, and if that is the
case there is no point to move from fink.sf.net, but that is my
opinion.


I pretty much agree.  That's why I was asking what the purpose of the 
domain is (although there is a certain aesthetic to mac.fink.org or 
get.fink.org, but then macfink.org is available too).

Jim



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Re: [Fink-devel] domain, need reply from key team at very least

2003-01-13 Thread Jim White
Justin Hallett wrote:

I personally don't like it, ppl won't remember it, and if that is the
case there is no point to move from fink.sf.net, but that is my
opinion.


I pretty much agree.  That's why I was asking what the purpose of the 
domain is (although there is a certain aesthetic to mac.fink.org or 
get.fink.org, but then macfink.org is available too).

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Re: [Fink-devel] domain, need reply from key team at very least

2003-01-13 Thread Justin Hallett
I personally don't like it, ppl won't remember it, and if that is the case
there is no point to move from fink.sf.net, but that is my opinion.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>What did you think of using a host within fink.org?  Probably 
>web.fink.org (Mail.app recognizes web.* as http: by default) and/or 
>get.fink.org?  There's also a good case for mac.fink.org (probably 
>better than get.fink.org).
>
>You were the one who made the original request and I wanted to know 
>whether any of this would suit the intended purpose.



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Re: [Fink-devel] domain, need reply from key team at very least

2003-01-10 Thread Jim White
David R. Morrison wrote:

On Jan 10,2003 12:19:30 -0600, Kris Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :

http://www.fink.org/ seems to be the property of a Mr. A. Fink.

Kris


It's kind of cool, actually... He has done Mac OS 9 development, and he has a
link to our project at the bottom of his page.



Yeah Andreas is a very cool guy.  We're long time friends since the days 
when I was a devloper at Spider Island Software and he was an uber sysop 
running a commerical TeleFinder BBS (developed for Mac and the first 
graphical BBS s/w, when Steve Case needed to describe AOL without a 
demo, he'ld say "Have you seen TeleFinder? It's like that.") which 
morphed into an ISP.

As cool as he is, I don't think he'ld give over the www.fink.org host, 
but I'll ask him if he'ld provide DNS for project.fink.org (or 
sw.fink.org or whatever).

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Re: [Fink-devel] domain, need reply from key team at very least

2003-01-10 Thread Jim White
Justin Hallett wrote:

I suggested hq because I found xinehq.de and mplayerhq.de, so I thought it
was a de thing :)


And there's winehq.com + winehq.org too.

I think finkhq.* is not a bad choice and doesn't suffer the problem of 
compound word names where when you say it you also have to clarify what 
if any punctuation is used (finkproject.* vs fink-project.com).

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Re: [Fink-devel] domain, need reply from key team at very least

2003-01-10 Thread Alexander Strange

On Friday, January 10, 2003, at 10:36 AM, Justin Hallett wrote:


what about finkhq both de and com are avail...

finkhq.de was my first though since both Chris and Max are from de it
seems only right to honor them and there country.  or finkhq.com it we
want to be in the .com I think .org is avail to, I talked to rand on 
irc
and he is willing to host it

It doesn't need hosting for webspace; all you have to do is CNAME it to 
sourceforge.net and set up the VHOST stuff in the admin panel for Fink 
on Sourceforge.

I can probably host the mail server, but I'd have to check.
and I'm willing to pay reg for the .org or
.com please let me know what you guys think ASAP, I think the core 
devel
team getting @finkhq.(com|org|de) address would be a good asset.

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Re: [Fink-devel] domain, need reply from key team at very least

2003-01-10 Thread Justin Hallett
I suggested hq because I found xinehq.de and mplayerhq.de, so I thought it
was a de thing :)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>finkhq seems to be something very US centric. I guess HQ stands for 
>"head quarter" ? In any case, not many people from here would 
>associate it with that immediatly. And it wouldn't be particulary 
>easy to memorize either. I'd prefer something like fink-project.org - 
>while it is much longer, everybody who knows fink would easily 
>memorize it.

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Re: [Fink-devel] domain, need reply from key team at very least

2003-01-10 Thread Max Horn
Just to avoid some confusion: none of the various www.fink.* seems to 
be available. No .net, .com. org, .de, .info, etc. so forget about 
those!


finkhq seems to be something very US centric. I guess HQ stands for 
"head quarter" ? In any case, not many people from here would 
associate it with that immediatly. And it wouldn't be particulary 
easy to memorize either. I'd prefer something like fink-project.org - 
while it is much longer, everybody who knows fink would easily 
memorize it.


That said, I am still not fully convinced that we need a domain, 
except maybe for emails, but I don't have a problem if we get one, 
either. I just don't like finkhq.* much, but that's just my two cents 
of course, feel free to overrule me there :-)


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Re: [Fink-devel] domain, need reply from key team at very least

2003-01-10 Thread Alexander Hansen
On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 14:09, David R. Morrison wrote:
> 
 
> fink.net seems to belong to "netidentity.com", and there is one registered
> node, namely http://Rat.Fink.net .  So this would seem to be out.
> 
> (I'm not sure that I can explain to a non-American what ratfink means...)

Hint:  it's not a finch that feeds on rats.

> 
>   -- Dave
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Re: [Fink-devel] domain, need reply from key team at very least

2003-01-10 Thread David R. Morrison


On Jan 10,2003 12:19:30 -0600, Kris Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
>http://www.fink.org/ seems to be the property of a Mr. A. Fink.
>
>Kris
>

It's kind of cool, actually... He has done Mac OS 9 development, and he has a
link to our project at the bottom of his page.

fink.net seems to belong to "netidentity.com", and there is one registered
node, namely http://Rat.Fink.net .  So this would seem to be out.

(I'm not sure that I can explain to a non-American what ratfink means...)

  -- Dave





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Re: [Fink-devel] domain, need reply from key team at very least

2003-01-10 Thread Kris Foster
http://www.fink.org/ seems to be the property of a Mr. A. Fink.

Kris

On Fri, 10 Jan 2003, Justin Hallett wrote:

> I think everyone will vote for fink.info but it's NOT avail
>
> not sure about fink.net but fink.org is avail ATM
>
> and this is discussion is for all, I just wanted to get the core teams
> attention at least :P
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >I agree with David that I don't like the 'hq'. To me it doesn't mean a
> >thing. I personally would vote for fink.info or fink.org or even
> >fink.net (we are a 'network' of developers, no?)
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Re: [Fink-devel] domain, need reply from key team at very least

2003-01-10 Thread Jeremy Erwin

On Friday, January 10, 2003, at 11:45  AM, Benjamin Reed wrote:


On Friday, January 10, 2003, at 11:38 AM, David wrote:


I did offer that as well. I am also still talking to the fink.info
owner and they do not seem too reluctant on sponsoring the domain.
Neither money nor resources seem to be the issue but the inability to
decide on a possible domain name.


I think fink.info would be awesome, although I have no problems with 
finkhq, I agree that .org is more appropriate than .com.

If we can get fink.info and finkhq.org, I think that would be 
perfect...

What about fink-project.org ?

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Re: [Fink-devel] domain, need reply from key team at very least

2003-01-10 Thread Justin Hallett
I think everyone will vote for fink.info but it's NOT avail

not sure about fink.net but fink.org is avail ATM

and this is discussion is for all, I just wanted to get the core teams
attention at least :P

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>I agree with David that I don't like the 'hq'. To me it doesn't mean a 
>thing. I personally would vote for fink.info or fink.org or even 
>fink.net (we are a 'network' of developers, no?)

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Re: [Fink-devel] domain, need reply from key team at very least

2003-01-10 Thread Christian Schaffner
Even if I am not a core devel team member let me add a few comments:

I agree with David that I don't like the 'hq'. To me it doesn't mean a 
thing. I personally would vote for fink.info or fink.org or even 
fink.net (we are a 'network' of developers, no?)

That's it.

On Freitag, Januar 10, 2003, at 04:36  Uhr, Justin Hallett wrote:

what about finkhq both de and com are avail...

finkhq.de was my first though since both Chris and Max are from de it
seems only right to honor them and there country.  or finkhq.com it we
want to be in the .com I think .org is avail to, I talked to rand on 
irc
and he is willing to host it and I'm willing to pay reg for the .org or
.com please let me know what you guys think ASAP, I think the core 
devel
team getting @finkhq.(com|org|de) address would be a good asset.

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Re: [Fink-devel] domain, need reply from key team at very least

2003-01-10 Thread Benjamin Reed
On Friday, January 10, 2003, at 11:38 AM, David wrote:


I did offer that as well. I am also still talking to the fink.info
owner and they do not seem too reluctant on sponsoring the domain.
Neither money nor resources seem to be the issue but the inability to
decide on a possible domain name.


I think fink.info would be awesome, although I have no problems with 
finkhq, I agree that .org is more appropriate than .com.

If we can get fink.info and finkhq.org, I think that would be perfect...



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Re: [Fink-devel] domain, need reply from key team at very least

2003-01-10 Thread Justin Hallett
if this is the case then fink.org is the logical choice

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>I know one should never shed critique  without offering a better 
>
>solution. I have no better solution but I know that I will go and 
>
>register
>
>
>
>finkdocu.org
>
>finkdevel.org

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Re: [Fink-devel] domain, need reply from key team at very least

2003-01-10 Thread Justin Hallett
I agree fink.info would rule but it's taken so we need an other, what
about finkhq.info?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>I did offer that as well. I am also still talking to the fink.info 
>
>owner and they do not seem too reluctant on sponsoring the domain.
>
>Neither money nor resources seem to be the issue but the inability to 
>
>decide on a possible domain name.

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Re: [Fink-devel] domain, need reply from key team at very least

2003-01-10 Thread David
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On Freitag, Jänner 10, 2003, at 04:36  Uhr, Justin Hallett wrote:


what about finkhq both de and com are avail...

Well here are my 00.18 € and please keep in mind, that this is a 
personal opinion do NOT be offended.

finkhq.de was my first though since both Chris and Max are from de it
seems only right to honor them and there country.


Personally I HATE how most companies abuse the domain policies. The 
Fink server nor Project is completely located in germany and therefore 
using a .de domain would only abuse the standards further. It really 
does not matter that Max is from Germany as long as the Project itself 
is not fully located, including the server, you should not use a .de 
domain (and yes I know 99% of the .de domains aren't following this  
standard).

 or finkhq.com it we
want to be in the .com

We aren't 'com'mercial so taht should be out of the question.


 I think .org is avail to,

In my humble opinion that is the only viable choice. We are an 
"organisation" in a way, yet not even that would fully apply.

 I talked to rand on irc
and he is willing to host it and I'm willing to pay reg for the .org or
.com please let me know what you guys think ASAP, I think the core 
devel
team getting @finkhq.(com|org|de) address would be a good asset.

I did offer that as well. I am also still talking to the fink.info 
owner and they do not seem too reluctant on sponsoring the domain.
Neither money nor resources seem to be the issue but the inability to 
decide on a possible domain name.

Personally I dislike finkhq.(), because I do not identify myself with 
the appended hq.
Someone who knows English  fairly well will be able to guess that it 
stands for Head Quarters, yet everyone else only sees two strange 
characters appended.

I know one should never shed critique  without offering a better 
solution. I have no better solution but I know that I will go and 
register

finkdocu.org
finkdevel.org

pretty soon. docu for a domain which is virtual and only hosts 
documentation
devel for a virtual domain which holds all necessary info and news for 
Developers.

- -d


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fearing,
- -  Doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream to dream 
before.." Edgar Allen Poe - The Raven
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