Re: [Firebird-devel] url from headers

2011-08-23 Thread Lester Caine
Leyne, Sean wrote:
   url from headers should be changed from
   http://www.Inprise.com/IPL.html
   to
   http://www.firebirdsql.org/en/interbase-public-license
 Actually they should not be changed.

 The headers are exactly as they were when Inprise released the code.  They 
 (now Embarcadero) are the true source for the license details.

 It would not be appropriate for the project to change the License header, in 
 any way.

Which would be fine if the link actually went to Embarcadero but it seems that 
the inprise domains are now owned by advertising scammers? I think in this case 
changing it is appropriate as long as the target actually has license 
information.

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Re: [Firebird-devel] url from headers

2011-08-23 Thread Claudio Valderrama C.
 -Original Message-
 From: Lester Caine [mailto:les...@lsces.co.uk] 
 Sent: Martes, 23 de Agosto de 2011 2:17
 
  It would not be appropriate for the project to change the 
 License header, in any way.
 
 Which would be fine if the link actually went to Embarcadero 
 but it seems that 
 the inprise domains are now owned by advertising scammers? I 
 think in this case 
 changing it is appropriate as long as the target actually has 
 license information.

I seem to remember that Inprise/Borland created a second version of the
license but we chose to stick to the original, so we would have to check the
Embarcadero text word by word.

C.


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Re: [Firebird-devel] url from headers

2011-08-23 Thread Paul Beach
  It would not be appropriate for the project to change the 
 License header, in any way.
 
 Which would be fine if the link actually went to Embarcadero 
 but it seems that 
 the inprise domains are now owned by advertising scammers? I 
 think in this case 
 changing it is appropriate as long as the target actually has 
 license information.

I seem to remember that Inprise/Borland created a second version of the
license but we chose to stick to the original, so we would have to check the
Embarcadero text word by word.

We keep as is - thats how they were released - thats how they stay.

My 2c.

Paul

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Re: [Firebird-devel] url from headers

2011-08-23 Thread Lester Caine
Paul Beach wrote:
 It would not be appropriate for the project to change the
   License header, in any way.
 
   Which would be fine if the link actually went to Embarcadero
   but it seems that
   the inprise domains are now owned by advertising scammers? I
   think in this case
   changing it is appropriate as long as the target actually has
   license information.
 I seem to remember that Inprise/Borland created a second version of the
 license but we chose to stick to the original, so we would have to check the
 Embarcadero text word by word.

 We keep as is - thats how they were released - thats how they stay.

Did Inprise exist when the files were originally released? That was changed 
later already wasn't it?

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Re: [Firebird-devel] url from headers

2011-08-23 Thread Alex Peshkoff
   It would not be appropriate for the project to change the 
  License header, in any way.
  
  Which would be fine if the link actually went to Embarcadero 
  but it seems that 
  the inprise domains are now owned by advertising scammers? I 
  think in this case 
  changing it is appropriate as long as the target actually has 
  license information.
 
 I seem to remember that Inprise/Borland created a second version of the
 license but we chose to stick to the original, so we would have to check the
 Embarcadero text word by word.
 
 We keep as is - thats how they were released - thats how they stay.
 
I'm afraid that problem will raise again and again.
May be we should add a file in doc/license, stating that we know about
missing license at inprise's URL, but must keep it as is, and certainly
add a link to our site?



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Re: [Firebird-devel] url from headers

2011-08-23 Thread Paul Beach
Paul Beach wrote:
 It would not be appropriate for the project to change the
   License header, in any way.
 
   Which would be fine if the link actually went to Embarcadero
   but it seems that
   the inprise domains are now owned by advertising scammers? I
   think in this case
   changing it is appropriate as long as the target actually has
   license information.
 I seem to remember that Inprise/Borland created a second version of the
 license but we chose to stick to the original, so we would have to check the
 Embarcadero text word by word.

 We keep as is - thats how they were released - thats how they stay.

Did Inprise exist when the files were originally released? That was changed 
later already wasn't it?

Borland was Inprise at that time... hence the url. Dale Fuller was in the 
process of trying
to change the name back from Inprise to Borland. 

Paul


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Re: [Firebird-devel] url from headers - Email found in subject

2011-08-23 Thread Leyne, Sean
Marius,

 Now inprise.com is owned by someone else

And this is the project's problem, how?

There are likely thousands of documents/files which Inprise released which have 
URLs which are now unreachable...  that is just a fact of life.  It just so 
happens that a number of those documents are the Firebird code headers.  As the 
document owners it is their responsibility to address this problem.

In fact, if Embacadero feels that the issue needs attention, they (as the 
copyright owners) could host the original license text (there was a revision, 
which the Firebird code is NOT covered by) as a new link and then 
prepare/submit a patch with the corrected headers to the project for our 
review/approval and check-in.  It is, however, most certainly not for the 
project developers to change the headers, in any way.


Sean


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[Firebird-devel] url from headers

2011-08-22 Thread marius adrian popa
url from headers should be changed from
http://www.Inprise.com/IPL.html
to
http://www.firebirdsql.org/en/interbase-public-license

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