Re: [Firebird-docs] Wire protocol document

2016-03-21 Thread Jiří Činčura
> A quick note: the sources of this manual are already in CVS with the
> other documentation.

Ha, I missed that. 

Then it's solved. :)

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Re: [Firebird-docs] Wire protocol document

2016-03-21 Thread Mark Rotteveel
A quick note: the sources of this manual are already in CVS with the other 
documentation.
Mark

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Hi *,

.NET provider has, long unmaintained, documentation of wire protocol.
It's this document
https://github.com/cincuranet/FirebirdSql.Data.FirebirdClient/blob/master/Documentation/FirebirdWireProtocol.pdf
. I don't think we have resources to keep it up-to-date, especially as
it's probably only useful to provider writers and we can (and have to)
read the Firebird's source code anyway. Do you want to keep it somewhere
on firebirdsql.org site as a reference, kind of? I'm considering
deleting it (though it will be in repository's history so it's not
completely "lost").

JC

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[Firebird-docs] Wire protocol document

2016-03-21 Thread Jiří Činčura
Hi *,

.NET provider has, long unmaintained, documentation of wire protocol.
It's this document
https://github.com/cincuranet/FirebirdSql.Data.FirebirdClient/blob/master/Documentation/FirebirdWireProtocol.pdf
. I don't think we have resources to keep it up-to-date, especially as
it's probably only useful to provider writers and we can (and have to)
read the Firebird's source code anyway. Do you want to keep it somewhere
on firebirdsql.org site as a reference, kind of? I'm considering
deleting it (though it will be in repository's history so it's not
completely "lost").

JC

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Re: [Firebird-docs] Getting started

2016-03-21 Thread Helen Borrie
Monday, March 21, 2016, 11:37:52 PM, Paul V. wrote:

What I wrote:
>> DML up to and including PROCEDURE has been done.  Just the small
>> objects remain, starting from PDF page 151 (pagination P. 137) at the
>> EXTERNAL FUNCTION section.

Paul corrected:
> That's DDL up to and including PROCEDURE.

Oops, sorry for that.  DDL (Data Definition Language), i.e., Chapter
5.

Helen


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Re: [Firebird-docs] Getting started

2016-03-21 Thread Paul Vinkenoog
Hi James, all,

>> I downloaded the latest version of the beta
>> Firebird_Language_Reference_25EN.pdf. I will begin by reviewing the
>> DML, PSQL and Functions chapters.

> DML up to and including PROCEDURE has been done.  Just the small
> objects remain, starting from PDF page 151 (pagination P. 137) at the
> EXTERNAL FUNCTION section.

That's DDL up to and including PROCEDURE. So if James begins with the
DML chapter, he should start the beginning. But he can also start with
DDL, in that case from the EXTERNAL FUNCTION section.

>> will review the InterBase6.0 beta LangRef
>
> If you mean "review for correctness, etc." then forget this one.  It
> is about 16 years old and has never been updated in the Firebird era.
>
>>  and the Firebird 2.5 LangRef.
>
> This is the one.  It is a total replacement for the old InterBase
> LangRef and all of the Firebird LangRef Update volumes.

You can use the IB 6 LangRef and the Fb 2.5 LangRef *Update* while
checking information for correctness, although the ultimate test is
always to simply try things out. (But as I indicated earlier, if this
takes too much time or gets complicated, just having the English
corrected is already a big step forward from where we are now.)

Good luck!

Paul Vinkenoog

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Re: [Firebird-docs] Getting started

2016-03-21 Thread Helen Borrie
Hello james,

Monday, March 21, 2016, 6:33:36 PM, you wrote:

>   
>Hello Martin, Paul, Helen, and Mark.


> I downloaded the latest version of the beta
> Firebird_Language_Reference_25EN.pdf. I will begin by reviewing the
> DML, PSQL and Functions chapters.

DML up to and including PROCEDURE has been done.  Just the small
objects remain, starting from PDF page 151 (pagination P. 137) at the
EXTERNAL FUNCTION section.

> will review the InterBase6.0 beta LangRef

If you mean "review for correctness, etc." then forget this one.  It
is about 16 years old and has never been updated in the Firebird era.

>  and the Firebird 2.5 LangRef.

This is the one.  It is a total replacement for the old InterBase
LangRef and all of the Firebird LangRef Update volumes.

Cheers,
Helen


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