Re: [firebird-support] FB2 + Vulcan -> FB3 en route?

2012-06-05 Thread Milan Babuskov
Michael Ludwig wrote:
> The Vulcan is on the attic for a reason. And hence FAQ 245 should
> reflect that fact, if only by pointing to that thread on Markmail.

Thanks for investigating Michael, I'll update the FAQ page.

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Re: [firebird-support] FB2 + Vulcan -> FB3 en route?

2012-06-04 Thread Iwan Cahyadi Sugeng
Yes, thanks for the correction, i've read the vulcan project long ago, so i
can't remember the exact news about it, all i know that fb 3 is planned to
merge vulcan and firebird to have better support on SMP.

On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 3:37 AM, Michael Ludwig  wrote:

> **
>
>
> Iwan Cahyadi Sugeng schrieb am 04.06.2012 um 22:26 (+0700):
>
> > As far as i know, vulcan is another open source project derived from
> > the open source interbase 6 version […]
>
> This is wrong. Check FAQ 245 the URL of which I posted [see below]:
>
> Vulcan was a separate project (fork) programmed by Jim Starkey. It
> took early Firebird 2.0 alpha sources in order to bring better SMP
> (multi-CPU) support.
>
> Michael
>
>
> > > What is it? Turns out it's an FAQ I've never seen before:
> > >
> > > http://www.firebirdfaq.org/faq245/ - What is Vulcan?
>
>  
>



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Re: [firebird-support] FB2 + Vulcan -> FB3 en route?

2012-06-04 Thread Michael Ludwig
Ann Harrison schrieb am 04.06.2012 um 18:18 (-0400):

> Vulcan was a project done by Jim Starkey based on Firebird 1.5 to meet
> the SAP requirements for fine multi-threading in a shared service.

Thanks, Ann. Not SAP AG, though, but SAS Institute.

Michael


Re: [firebird-support] FB2 + Vulcan -> FB3 en route?

2012-06-04 Thread Ann Harrison
On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Iwan Cahyadi Sugeng <
iwan.c.sug...@gmail.com> wrote:

> As far as i know, vulcan is another open source project derived from the
> open source interbase 6 version, so there is an intention to merge this two
> project into one firebird project and that will be called firebird 3
> version.
>
>
Vulcan was a project done by Jim Starkey based on Firebird 1.5 to meet the
SAP requirements for fine multi-threading in a shared service.

Ann


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Re: [firebird-support] FB2 + Vulcan -> FB3 en route?

2012-06-04 Thread Michael Ludwig
Helen Borrie schrieb am 05.06.2012 um 09:40 (+1200):

> >> > http://www.firebirdfaq.org/faq245/ - What is Vulcan?
> 
> Firebird-architect would be a more appropriate place to continue this
> discussion.

Or rather Firebird-archeologist :)

Vulcan Merge - Jim Starkey - Jan 29, 2005
http://tech.dir.groups.yahoo.com/group/Firebird-Architect/message/6530

Michael


Re: [firebird-support] FB2 + Vulcan -> FB3 en route?

2012-06-04 Thread Michael Ludwig
Michael Ludwig schrieb am 04.06.2012 um 15:33 (+0200):
> I stumbled upon a Vulcan on the attic …
> 
> http://www.ibphoenix.com/resources/documents/attic - Vulcan

> http://www.firebirdfaq.org/faq245/ - What is Vulcan?
> 
>   The intention is to merge Firebird 2 and
>   Vulcan code back and create Firebird 3.
> 
> Is this what's currently happening?

No, apparently it's not; it either has happened or won't happen.
I found a thread on fb-dev that reveals at least part of the
history, especially the message by Bill Oliver of SAS:

  All of the key features from Vulcan have
  been front-ported to Firebird 2.5 beta.

[Firebird-devel] status of vulcan project - James Gregurich - 03.08.09
http://markmail.org/thread/fzjh2xy2fzbvluih

The Vulcan is on the attic for a reason. And hence FAQ 245 should
reflect that fact, if only by pointing to that thread on Markmail.

Michael


Re: [firebird-support] FB2 + Vulcan -> FB3 en route?

2012-06-04 Thread Helen Borrie
At 08:37 AM 5/06/2012, Michael Ludwig wrote:
>Iwan Cahyadi Sugeng schrieb am 04.06.2012 um 22:26 (+0700):
>> As far as i know, vulcan is another open source project derived from
>> the open source interbase 6 version […]
>This is wrong. Check FAQ 245 the URL of which I posted [see below]:
>
>  Vulcan was a separate project (fork) programmed by Jim Starkey. It
>  took early Firebird 2.0 alpha sources in order to bring better SMP
>  (multi-CPU) support.
>
>Michael
>
>> > What is it? Turns out it's an FAQ I've never seen before:
>> >
>> > http://www.firebirdfaq.org/faq245/ - What is Vulcan?

Firebird-architect would be a more appropriate place to continue this 
discussion.

^ heLen ^




Re: [firebird-support] FB2 + Vulcan -> FB3 en route?

2012-06-04 Thread Michael Ludwig
Iwan Cahyadi Sugeng schrieb am 04.06.2012 um 22:26 (+0700):
> As far as i know, vulcan is another open source project derived from
> the open source interbase 6 version […]

This is wrong. Check FAQ 245 the URL of which I posted [see below]:

  Vulcan was a separate project (fork) programmed by Jim Starkey. It
  took early Firebird 2.0 alpha sources in order to bring better SMP
  (multi-CPU) support.

Michael

> > What is it? Turns out it's an FAQ I've never seen before:
> >
> > http://www.firebirdfaq.org/faq245/ - What is Vulcan?


Re: [firebird-support] FB2 + Vulcan -> FB3 en route?

2012-06-04 Thread Michael Ludwig
Alexey Kovyazin schrieb am 04.06.2012 um 19:35 (+0400):
> 
> Look here
> http://www.firebirdsql.org/en/roadmap/

That page makes no mention of Vulcan, and neither does the detail page.
But as we know, absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

> -Zed's dead, baby, Zed's dead

Not sure you meant to imply the Vulcan effort won't make it back into
Firebird? Then the FAQ would seem out of date:

  The intention is to merge Firebird 2 and
  Vulcan code back and create Firebird 3. 

http://www.firebirdfaq.org/faq245/ - What is Vulcan?

Michael


Re: [firebird-support] FB2 + Vulcan -> FB3 en route?

2012-06-04 Thread Alexey Kovyazin
 >> As far as i know, vulcan is another open source project derived from 
the

>Is this what's currently happening?

Look here
http://www.firebirdsql.org/en/roadmap/


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-Whose motorcycle is this?

-It's a chopper, baby.

-Whose chopper is this?

-Zed's.

-Who's Zed?

-Zed's dead, baby, Zed's dead



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Re: [firebird-support] FB2 + Vulcan -> FB3 en route?

2012-06-04 Thread Iwan Cahyadi Sugeng
As far as i know, vulcan is another open source project derived from the
open source interbase 6 version, so there is an intention to merge this two
project into one firebird project and that will be called firebird 3
version.

On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Michael Ludwig  wrote:

> **
>
>
> I stumbled upon a Vulcan on the attic …
>
> http://www.ibphoenix.com/resources/documents/attic - Vulcan
>
> Which made for some interesting reading, but then there's lots of
> documents and I started wondering about the relevance of it all …
>
> What is it? Turns out it's an FAQ I've never seen before:
>
> http://www.firebirdfaq.org/faq245/ - What is Vulcan?
>
> The intention is to merge Firebird 2 and
> Vulcan code back and create Firebird 3.
>
> Is this what's currently happening?
>
> Michael
>  
>



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[firebird-support] FB2 + Vulcan -> FB3 en route?

2012-06-04 Thread Michael Ludwig
I stumbled upon a Vulcan on the attic …

http://www.ibphoenix.com/resources/documents/attic - Vulcan

Which made for some interesting reading, but then there's lots of
documents and I started wondering about the relevance of it all …

What is it? Turns out it's an FAQ I've never seen before:

http://www.firebirdfaq.org/faq245/ - What is Vulcan?

  The intention is to merge Firebird 2 and
  Vulcan code back and create Firebird 3.

Is this what's currently happening?

Michael