Re: [Fis] _ Re: Maxine’s presentation

2016-02-20 Thread Loet Leydesdorff
Dear Maxine and colleagues, 

It seems to me that the assumption of an origin takes a heavy load on this 
theory. We know that order can emerge from chaos. Any order will also disappear 
in the longer run. 

Why would one wish to make such assumptions? Meta-physical? 

Best,
Loet

Loet Leydesdorff 
Professor, University of Amsterdam
Amsterdam School of Communication Research (ASCoR)
l...@leydesdorff.net ; http://www.leydesdorff.net/ 
Honorary Professor, SPRU, University of Sussex; 
Guest Professor Zhejiang Univ., Hangzhou; Visiting Professor, ISTIC, Beijing;
Visiting Professor, Birkbeck, University of London; 
http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=ych9gNYJ=en

From: Fis [mailto:fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es] On Behalf Of Pedro C. Marijuan
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 2:13 PM
To: 'fis'
Subject: [Fis] _ Re: Maxine’s presentation

Dear Maxine and Colleagues,

Concerning your presentation I have a couple of questions. About dance, first, 
let me inquire about another important aspect it may have, perhaps a "vital" 
one . In a number of species, dance is related to the mutual pre-exploration 
between potential reproductive partners. The individual fitness of the 
candidate(s) are evaluated quite strategically along the movements of dance, at 
least in the essential adaptive traits. Cultural layers of human societies may 
have created further "meanings" to dance (artistic, gimnastic, educative, 
therapeutic, etc.) but at the very roots of this human phenomenon the 
exploration between genders continues to be of the essence, I think. Those 
qualities you mention of tensional, linear, aerial, and projectional are in 
themselves excellent ways to observe the whole person: not only in the motoric 
dimension, but also concerning some related intellectual-emotional 
capabilities. The "gestalts" Alex mentions are colored very differently 
depending on the social/cultural contexts in which the same dance may take 
place. It is quite interesting that the folk inter-gender dance is performed in 
"safe" public spaces, and that it often conveys a feminine advantage (better 
synchronization of movements, more interest for fashionable pieces), etc. etc. 
Although perhaps it does not apply to most of present day "disco dance". Along 
your points, I was reminded that many years ago, someone in fis list wrote 
about the informational implications of "Tango" (originally a dance between 
castaway males in Argentina's immigrant squalors) ... it is a pity I can 
remember very little about that. 

And the second comment concerns the paleoanthropological tools. The analogy 
between the two major forms of tools and the two major tooth forms is very well 
developed.I quite agree, and also would like to ad a relationship with human 
gut-microbiome. We needed "artificial" teeth because with our terrific brain 
growth, the overall metabolic needs escalated almost 20%. However, at the same 
time the gut size (& contained microbiome) was reduced 50% in comparison with 
any Anthropoidea of our size. This is an impossible budget to maintain, unless 
the development of collective intelligence applied to our feeding and created 
completely original ways. These new ways were made possible by language, group 
identities, tools and artifact creation... but it was the new feeding style 
what pushed along this adaptive loop. We have called the new ways as "cooking", 
but actually it was a pre- or external digestion, achieved with those 
artifactual "molars and incisives", plus boiling, roasting, etc. And also by 
incorporating "external microbiomes"--fermentation-- for our service: bread, 
wine, beer, cheese, etc. The essential new foods of civilization. Cooking made 
us humans... how a "social brain" was created, and how our phenomenology became 
captive of group collective thinking might be a topic deserving further 
analysis.

Thanking in advance for the tolerance! 

Best--Pedro  

-
Phenomenology and Evolutionary Biology

(1): Phenomenology
As written in the Preface to the 2nd edition (1979) of The Phenomenology of 
Dance, “Certainly words carry no patented meanings, but the term 
‘phenomenology’ does seem stretched beyond its limits when it is used to denote 
either mere reportorial renderings of perceptive behaviors or actions, or any 
descriptive rendering at all of perceptible behaviors or actions. At the least, 
‘phenomenology’ should be recognized as a very specific mode of epistemological 
inquiry, a method of eidetic analysis invariably associated with the name 
Edmund Husserl, the founder of phenomenology; and at the most ‘phenomenology’ 
should be recognized as a philosophically-spawned terms, that is, a term having 
a 

[Fis] _ Re: Maxine’s presentation

2016-02-19 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan

Dear Maxine and Colleagues,

Concerning your presentation I have a couple of questions. About dance, 
first, let me inquire about another important aspect it may have, 
perhaps a "vital" one . In a number of species, dance is related to the 
mutual pre-exploration between potential reproductive partners. The 
individual fitness of the candidate(s) are evaluated quite strategically 
along the movements of dance, at least in the essential adaptive traits. 
Cultural layers of human societies may have created further "meanings" 
to dance (artistic, gimnastic, educative, therapeutic, etc.) but at the 
very roots of this human phenomenon the exploration between genders 
continues to be of the essence, I think. Those qualities you mention of 
tensional, linear, aerial, and projectional are in themselves excellent 
ways to observe the whole person: not only in the motoric dimension, but 
also concerning some related intellectual-emotional capabilities. The 
"gestalts" Alex mentions are colored very differently depending on the 
social/cultural contexts in which the same dance may take place. It is 
quite interesting that the folk inter-gender dance is performed in 
"safe" public spaces, and that it often conveys a feminine advantage 
(better synchronization of movements, more interest for fashionable 
pieces), etc. etc. Although perhaps it does not apply to most of present 
day "disco dance". Along your points, I was reminded that many years 
ago, someone in fis list wrote about the informational implications of 
"Tango" (originally a dance between castaway males in Argentina's 
immigrant squalors) ... it is a pity I can remember very little about that.


And the second comment concerns the paleoanthropological tools. The 
analogy between the two major forms of tools and the two major tooth 
forms is very well developed.I quite agree, and also would like to ad a 
relationship with human gut-microbiome. We needed "artificial" teeth 
because with our terrific brain growth, the overall metabolic needs 
escalated almost 20%. However, at the same time the gut size (& 
contained microbiome) was reduced 50% in comparison with any 
Anthropoidea of our size. This is an impossible budget to maintain, 
unless the development of collective intelligence applied to our feeding 
and created completely original ways. These new ways were made possible 
by language, group identities, tools and artifact creation... but it was 
the new feeding style what pushed along this adaptive loop. We have 
called the new ways as "cooking", but actually it was a pre- or external 
digestion, achieved with those artifactual "molars and incisives", plus 
boiling, roasting, etc. And also by incorporating "external 
microbiomes"--fermentation-- for our service: bread, wine, beer, cheese, 
etc. The essential new foods of civilization. Cooking made us humans... 
how a "social brain" was created, and how our phenomenology became 
captive of group collective thinking might be a topic deserving further 
analysis.


Thanking in advance for the tolerance!

Best--Pedro

-


*Phenomenology and Evolutionary Biology*


***(1): Phenomenology
*As written in the Preface to the 2^nd edition (1979) of The 
Phenomenology of Dance, “Certainly words carry no patented meanings, 
but the term ‘phenomenology’ does seem stretched beyond its limits 
when it is used to denote either mere reportorial renderings of 
perceptive behaviors or actions, or /any/ descriptive rendering at all 
of perceptible behaviors or actions. At the least, ‘phenomenology’ 
should be recognized as a very specific mode of epistemological 
inquiry, a method of eidetic analysis invariably associated with the 
name Edmund Husserl, the founder of phenomenology; and at the most 
‘phenomenology’ should be recognized as a philosophically-spawned 
terms, that is, a term having a rich philosophical history and 
significance.”


A phenomenological analysis of movement given in The Phenomenology of 
Dance follows the rigorous methodology set forth by Husserl. The 
methodology is integral to understandings of phenomenology as well as 
to its practice. Husserl distinguished two modes of the methodology. 
One mode is termed “static,” the other is termed “genetic.” The aim in 
static phenomenology is to uncover the essential character of the 
phenomenon in question or under investigation. The aim in genetic 
phenomenology is to uncover the source and development of meanings and 
values we hold.


The abbreviated phenomenological analysis of movement set forth below 
follows a static phenomenology. The abbreviated phenomenological 
analysis of the origin of tool-making follows a genetic phenomenology. 
The first analysis elucidates the inherently dynamic character of 
movement, and in ways quite contrary to the idea that movement is a 
force in time and in space