Re: [Flashcoders] Re: Asynchronous ExternalInterface Calls From Javascript, possible?
yeah, that may very well be it. jtgxbass wrote: I suspect the first call delay is to do with flash getting a wsdl file (if its a SOAP service). Once it has the wsdl, it needs not d/load it again. On 6/21/07, elibol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm, I think it checks for the crossdomain.xml file when the webservice attempts to load/connect. Simple access to a file on a remote (sub)domain is not allowed. On 6/20/07, jason vancleave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seth Green seth.m.green at gmail.com writes: It turns out that the asynchronous web service call actually takes some extra time (like 100ms) the FIRST time you use that web service method. Not to confuse the matters worse but I wonder if that has something to do with it looking for the a crossdomain.xml file. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Asynchronous ExternalInterface Calls From Javascript, possible?
I'm not calling a JS function from flash until the end of this process. It is the beginning of this process that I want to be made asynchronous. In the beginning I am calling a flash function from JS. That is the piece I am trying to get to be asynchronous. jtgxbass wrote: You could make use of ExternalInterface.addCallback. Therefore the JS function you call with ExternalInterface.call starts some process off then returns straight away. When your process is done it calls your registered flash callback. Therefore you end up with asynchronous. All said and done, why not call the webservice straight from flash? On 6/19/07, Seth Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a web app that uses a flash movie as a proxy to a web service. Therefore, I have javascript calling flash methods that in turn make requests to a web service and then route the response back to javascript. I don't need my javascript functions to wait on this calls, but ExternalInterface is inherently synchronous. And to my surprise I have found that a flash method which does nothing but make a web service request can take 100ms or more. This is unacceptably slow, but especially so since my javascript code has to hang while the flash method does its business. Does anyone have any experience with this issue, or can provide a workaround or hint as to how I might make these calls asynchronous? thanks in advance. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Re: Asynchronous ExternalInterface Calls From Javascript, possible?
I can try that, but since flash isn't multithreaded, I'm not sure that would work. You mean if I had in AS function calledFromJS():Void { doSomething(); return; } right? I believe the call to that function would still take as long as doSomething() takes. Unless I misunderstood... jason vancleave wrote: Maybe I am misunderstanding something bu I would think you could set up a methodology where JS makes a call to Flash, Flash returns something immediately to JS, then does its stuff with the web service and calls back to JS again when its done. Another option is instead of using ExternalInterface you can use the Flash/JavaScript Gateway One thing I have went through is rapid calls between Javascript and Flash have dropped calls. I believe the kit below has a queuing functionality built into it. The one I have used is http://blog.deconcept.com/code/intkit/ because it works well with SWFObject ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Asynchronous ExternalInterface Calls From Javascript, possible?
It turns out that the asynchronous web service call actually takes some extra time (like 100ms) the FIRST time you use that web service method. Subsequent calls to that method only take 1ms. So, this first time you call this function from JS, JS is blocked for about 100ms //flash ExternalInterface.addCallback(service_GetEmails, this, getEmails); function getEmails():Void { _pendingCall = service.getEmails(emailIds); _pendingCall.onFault = function(fault){service_onFault(fault);} _pendingCall.onResult = function(result){toJS(result);} } //JS myMovie.service_GetEmails(); Subsequent calls are super fast. Not sure why this is. Must have something to do with some overhead incurred during the first call. I'd be interested to know the answer. I didn't realize it was only on the first call that so much time was taken. I can actually live with that. Otheriwse, the setInterval and/or setTimeout suggestion would have done the trick. Thanks elibol wrote: Aren't web service calls asynchronous, or am I missing something? I mean, you typically have to set up a result function to handle the web service response. Calling the service should not hold the function. In any case, I'd expect you'd have to handle this like follows: //javascript function call(){ swfObject.call(); } //flash function call(){ } function callBack(){ getURL(javascript:callBack();) } //javascript function callBack(){ //this would be called when the service response is recieved. } On 6/20/07, Steven Sacks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: setInterval is a handy way to break scope. Have the AS method called by JS set an interval for let's say 10ms, and then have the method assigned to the interval take care of business. Javascript will be free and Flash will keep on going. -Steven Seth Green wrote: I'm not calling a JS function from flash until the end of this process. It is the beginning of this process that I want to be made asynchronous. In the beginning I am calling a flash function from JS. That is the piece I am trying to get to be asynchronous. jtgxbass wrote: You could make use of ExternalInterface.addCallback. Therefore the JS function you call with ExternalInterface.call starts some process off then returns straight away. When your process is done it calls your registered flash callback. Therefore you end up with asynchronous. All said and done, why not call the webservice straight from flash? On 6/19/07, Seth Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a web app that uses a flash movie as a proxy to a web service. Therefore, I have javascript calling flash methods that in turn make requests to a web service and then route the response back to javascript. I don't need my javascript functions to wait on this calls, but ExternalInterface is inherently synchronous. And to my surprise I have found that a flash method which does nothing but make a web service request can take 100ms or more. This is unacceptably slow, but especially so since my javascript code has to hang while the flash method does its business. Does anyone have any experience with this issue, or can provide a workaround or hint as to how I might make these calls asynchronous? thanks in advance. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Development on PC vs Mac
I'd say your choice of Mac vs. PC should go well beyond which is better for flash development considering there are major differences between the two. I'd like to challenge the rest of the people on the list not to get into a PC vs Mac fanboy debate and keep this particular discussion to flash development on the two OSs. My only anecdotal evidence is that my wife works for a prominent interactive agency that does a ton of flash development. their entire flash team uses Macs. Jim Robson wrote: Questions for those of you who have done Flash development on both platforms: What are the pros and cons of Flash development on Mac vs PC? Which platform would you recommend? My laptop is in need of replacement, and my employer generally gives us a choice of IBM (lenovo) or Mac. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Development on PC vs Mac
Another question is what environment are your apps served from. For instance, all of our servers are some flavor of unix, running apache, etc. etc. Because of this, using a Mac has helped in that I can exactly replicate the server environment on my machine. Anything that is installed on the server can easily be installed on my machine (because it is unix-based). If your apps are hosted off windows boxes, then you should consider that as well. Jim Robson wrote: Questions for those of you who have done Flash development on both platforms: What are the pros and cons of Flash development on Mac vs PC? Which platform would you recommend? My laptop is in need of replacement, and my employer generally gives us a choice of IBM (lenovo) or Mac. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] Asynchronous ExternalInterface Calls From Javascript, possible?
I have a web app that uses a flash movie as a proxy to a web service. Therefore, I have javascript calling flash methods that in turn make requests to a web service and then route the response back to javascript. I don't need my javascript functions to wait on this calls, but ExternalInterface is inherently synchronous. And to my surprise I have found that a flash method which does nothing but make a web service request can take 100ms or more. This is unacceptably slow, but especially so since my javascript code has to hang while the flash method does its business. Does anyone have any experience with this issue, or can provide a workaround or hint as to how I might make these calls asynchronous? thanks in advance. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com