Re: [Flashcoders] Dynamic shread fonts was : Linked font from class

2006-04-12 Thread Cedric Muller
Zarate's trick doesn't work with Flash 8 ?... hmm, I am using Flash 8  
IDE, but compiling to 7 ,... no problems .. yet ?...
I works so nicely with my 100 files project ... it even works in ZINC  
projector (they said it wasn't possible! :))
anyway, Erix's SWFMILL solution seems great ... and I understand  
french :)

will try it for sure...

Hmm... regarding someone at Adobe/Macromedia telling us something  
about shared libraries ... huh! it would be like George Bush praying  
for global world peace ;)
as for shared assets, I never read anything 'smart' on the  
mothership's side ...they are just sticking with opening thousands of  
FLAs, dragging, dropping elements everywhere, edit their linkage in  
some weird place, tick on , tick off, compile, retest, don't work ...  
close Flash, relaunch, open again: works ...huh ?

yeeeaaahhhaa...

I am SO negative on ADBE/MM Shared Libraries implementation ... ...  
it is like a NO feature


anyway, I hope that your wish is listened to ...

i go to the wishlist right now ...

Cedric


Heeello!

First of all, sorry for not publish the english version of the
article. I never find time enough to do it :S

Then, since right now I´m working with SWFMill and MTASC I´ll try to
remember my bad french and read your post. I know sometime ago Martin
Klasson (who is also in this list) found some side problems with the
trick I was using. I know that trick is not elegant at all, but trust
me, it does work.

BUT it would be *great* to hear someone at Macromedia telling us when
(if at any time) do they plan to add an official-risk-free way to load
and use dynamic fonts without any kind of restrictions. I guess the
best way to do it is the simplest one: use fonts the same way we use
classes. That mean "including" the font(s) in one swf, load it at run
time and then use it wherever.

I know it´s doesn´t seem as important as other features for player
8.5, but it will help a lot of people.

Cheers,

Zarate

ps: Someone emailed me off-list last week about the article and I
haven´t replied yet, sorry :)

On 4/11/06, erixtekila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
still, you have to put that Shared thingie in both **The  
sharedLib AND

** The loader ...
with zarate's, you don't need both ... actually, you just prepare  
the

**SharedLib  and then the Loader automatically loads in the new
font (without linking, without compiling, without everything, just
leave it alone)

wouldn't it be better ?

Yes !

Did you tried this technic with flash 8 ide ?
On osx, i can't recompile the original example of zarate :
Problem of ressource for the forceShared asset.

BTW, it gave me the curiosity to dig further in this technic.
I've made a new thread on my blog in order to explain my attempt :
http://www.v-i-a.net/blog/archives/43.html

I used Zarate's trick (because this is in fact a trick) to do it with
opensource tools.
I had the feeling that it would be easier than the long (and badly
translated) explanation available.

As I don't anderstand spanish and you don't probably french, I try to
translate some part of my post here.

We'll be able to create true dynamic shared libraries for flash.
The principe uses the same as Zarate, but IMHO more friendly.

If I remember well, the flash player 6.0.79 gets a new feature :
multi-tiers shared lib.
We use that in order to create dynamic shared lib without referencing
the url in the importing animation.

Here are the key to the paradise :
- An empty swf
- This swf is used to add the url to itself and the other assets  
to be

shared.
- A loading animation that preload the sharedLib before using it.

All the swfmill script are on the blog.
If one is interested to an automated as2ant process, let me know.


Even if this is an awful trick, it leverage the power of dynamic  
shared

assets in flash.
And I, personnaly,  feel much more confortable to do it with swfmill
than Flash, as that type of creation is really ugly in it.

HTH
---
erixtekila
http://blog.v-i-a.net/

___
Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
To change your subscription options or search the archive:
http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders

Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software
Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training
http://www.figleaf.com
http://training.figleaf.com




--
Zárate
___
Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
To change your subscription options or search the archive:
http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders

Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software
Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training
http://www.figleaf.com
http://training.figleaf.com


___
Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
To change your subscription options or search the archive:
http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders

Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software
Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training
http://www.figleaf.c

Re: [Flashcoders] Dynamic shread fonts was : Linked font from class

2006-04-11 Thread Zárate
Heeello!

First of all, sorry for not publish the english version of the
article. I never find time enough to do it :S

Then, since right now I´m working with SWFMill and MTASC I´ll try to
remember my bad french and read your post. I know sometime ago Martin
Klasson (who is also in this list) found some side problems with the
trick I was using. I know that trick is not elegant at all, but trust
me, it does work.

BUT it would be *great* to hear someone at Macromedia telling us when
(if at any time) do they plan to add an official-risk-free way to load
and use dynamic fonts without any kind of restrictions. I guess the
best way to do it is the simplest one: use fonts the same way we use
classes. That mean "including" the font(s) in one swf, load it at run
time and then use it wherever.

I know it´s doesn´t seem as important as other features for player
8.5, but it will help a lot of people.

Cheers,

Zarate

ps: Someone emailed me off-list last week about the article and I
haven´t replied yet, sorry :)

On 4/11/06, erixtekila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > still, you have to put that Shared thingie in both **The sharedLib AND
> > ** The loader ...
> > with zarate's, you don't need both ... actually, you just prepare the
> > **SharedLib  and then the Loader automatically loads in the new
> > font (without linking, without compiling, without everything, just
> > leave it alone)
> >
> > wouldn't it be better ?
> Yes !
>
> Did you tried this technic with flash 8 ide ?
> On osx, i can't recompile the original example of zarate :
> Problem of ressource for the forceShared asset.
>
> BTW, it gave me the curiosity to dig further in this technic.
> I've made a new thread on my blog in order to explain my attempt :
> http://www.v-i-a.net/blog/archives/43.html
>
> I used Zarate's trick (because this is in fact a trick) to do it with
> opensource tools.
> I had the feeling that it would be easier than the long (and badly
> translated) explanation available.
>
> As I don't anderstand spanish and you don't probably french, I try to
> translate some part of my post here.
>
> We'll be able to create true dynamic shared libraries for flash.
> The principe uses the same as Zarate, but IMHO more friendly.
>
> If I remember well, the flash player 6.0.79 gets a new feature :
> multi-tiers shared lib.
> We use that in order to create dynamic shared lib without referencing
> the url in the importing animation.
>
> Here are the key to the paradise :
> - An empty swf
> - This swf is used to add the url to itself and the other assets to be
> shared.
> - A loading animation that preload the sharedLib before using it.
>
> All the swfmill script are on the blog.
> If one is interested to an automated as2ant process, let me know.
>
>
> Even if this is an awful trick, it leverage the power of dynamic shared
> assets in flash.
> And I, personnaly,  feel much more confortable to do it with swfmill
> than Flash, as that type of creation is really ugly in it.
>
> HTH
> ---
> erixtekila
> http://blog.v-i-a.net/
>
> ___
> Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
> To change your subscription options or search the archive:
> http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
>
> Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software
> Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training
> http://www.figleaf.com
> http://training.figleaf.com
>


--
Zárate
___
Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
To change your subscription options or search the archive:
http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders

Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software
Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training
http://www.figleaf.com
http://training.figleaf.com


[Flashcoders] Dynamic shread fonts was : Linked font from class

2006-04-11 Thread erixtekila
still, you have to put that Shared thingie in both **The sharedLib AND 
** The loader ...
with zarate's, you don't need both ... actually, you just prepare the 
**SharedLib  and then the Loader automatically loads in the new 
font (without linking, without compiling, without everything, just 
leave it alone)


wouldn't it be better ?

Yes !

Did you tried this technic with flash 8 ide ?
On osx, i can't recompile the original example of zarate :
Problem of ressource for the forceShared asset.

BTW, it gave me the curiosity to dig further in this technic.
I've made a new thread on my blog in order to explain my attempt :
http://www.v-i-a.net/blog/archives/43.html

I used Zarate's trick (because this is in fact a trick) to do it with 
opensource tools.
I had the feeling that it would be easier than the long (and badly 
translated) explanation available.


As I don't anderstand spanish and you don't probably french, I try to 
translate some part of my post here.


We'll be able to create true dynamic shared libraries for flash.
The principe uses the same as Zarate, but IMHO more friendly.

If I remember well, the flash player 6.0.79 gets a new feature : 
multi-tiers shared lib.
We use that in order to create dynamic shared lib without referencing 
the url in the importing animation.


Here are the key to the paradise :
- An empty swf
- This swf is used to add the url to itself and the other assets to be 
shared.

- A loading animation that preload the sharedLib before using it.

All the swfmill script are on the blog.
If one is interested to an automated as2ant process, let me know.


Even if this is an awful trick, it leverage the power of dynamic shared 
assets in flash.
And I, personnaly,  feel much more confortable to do it with swfmill 
than Flash, as that type of creation is really ugly in it.


HTH
---
erixtekila
http://blog.v-i-a.net/

___
Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
To change your subscription options or search the archive:
http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders

Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software
Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training
http://www.figleaf.com
http://training.figleaf.com