RE: [Flashcoders] Flash Lite 2.0 phone list

2006-01-13 Thread John Hattan
> From: Oleg Filipchuk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 10:46 AM
> To: Flashcoders mailing list
> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Lite 2.0 phone list
> 
> Does anybody know about any plans for Palm OS flash player?

It appears that the decision is up to Palm (or whoever owns the Palm brand
now) to agree on a license. Presumably the code for a Palm-based player is
already written, as the Sony-licensed Palm clone had a Flash player
installed on it.

Much like Flash Lite, the player's written and it's now a matter of the
hardware maker ponying up the license fees required to bundle the player
with the device.

---
John Hattan
The Code Zone - Sweet Software for a Saturnine World
www.thecodezone.com

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Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Lite 2.0 phone list

2006-01-13 Thread Oleg Filipchuk
Does anybody know about any plans for Palm OS flash player?

On 1/12/06, Nick Gerig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> The majority of Non-Nokia devices listed are Japanese handsets with
> FL1.1 or FL1.0 preinstalled.
>
> >
> >
> > - All the phones that could be supported using the current technology
> > once distribution deals
> > with the manufacturers are sorted out
>
>
> No - any phones there are because the deals have already been done
>
> >
> > - All the phones that the current player will run on once the current
> > testing period
> > is over.
> >
> I assumed  FL2.0 is final and only  the IDE extension is pre-release
> software
>
> > - All the phones that the Flash Lite 2.0 player could be ported to if
> > someone pays
> > Macrobe to do it.
>
>
> FL2.0 could be ported to literally any phone if someone pays :)
>
> >
> > Which of these applies will make a big difference to the speed of
> > adoption - if
> > the current player will be released for all these models in a few
> > months then
> > this could become quite big pretty quickly - otherwise its going to
> > take a while.
> >
>
> The issue currently is that is that although there is a long list of
> Nokias that FL will run on, will a player ever be distributed for those
> phones? The short answer is that unless the old MM policy has changed
> with Adobe - NO! Nokia will distribute the FL player in its emerging
> handsets, in fact it has already started in Asia with the N90, most
> probably worldwide with the N91 this month. But the older Nokia's will
> never get a FL player unless someone pays for it. IMHO this is a massive
> hit that only the developer community and consumers take, even if it
> does also have a slight impact on the growth of the FL content market
> which is still pretty immature outside Japan. The only situation where
> older Nokias will get FL2 is where a service provide/operator decides to
> license the player for its customers with existing Nokia handsets,
> however that is not necessarily a smooth process because each player is
> IMEI tied and therefore cumbersome to deliver OTA.
>
> Hope that helps a little.
>
>
>
> cheers
>
>
> Nick
>
>
>
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Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Lite 2.0 phone list

2006-01-12 Thread Nick Gerig


The majority of Non-Nokia devices listed are Japanese handsets with 
FL1.1 or FL1.0 preinstalled.





- All the phones that could be supported using the current technology 
once distribution deals

with the manufacturers are sorted out



No - any phones there are because the deals have already been done



- All the phones that the current player will run on once the current 
testing period

is over.

I assumed  FL2.0 is final and only  the IDE extension is pre-release 
software


- All the phones that the Flash Lite 2.0 player could be ported to if 
someone pays

Macrobe to do it.



FL2.0 could be ported to literally any phone if someone pays :)



Which of these applies will make a big difference to the speed of 
adoption - if
the current player will be released for all these models in a few 
months then
this could become quite big pretty quickly - otherwise its going to 
take a while.




The issue currently is that is that although there is a long list of 
Nokias that FL will run on, will a player ever be distributed for those 
phones? The short answer is that unless the old MM policy has changed 
with Adobe - NO! Nokia will distribute the FL player in its emerging 
handsets, in fact it has already started in Asia with the N90, most 
probably worldwide with the N91 this month. But the older Nokia's will 
never get a FL player unless someone pays for it. IMHO this is a massive 
hit that only the developer community and consumers take, even if it 
does also have a slight impact on the growth of the FL content market 
which is still pretty immature outside Japan. The only situation where 
older Nokias will get FL2 is where a service provide/operator decides to 
license the player for its customers with existing Nokia handsets, 
however that is not necessarily a smooth process because each player is 
IMEI tied and therefore cumbersome to deliver OTA.


Hope that helps a little.



cheers


Nick



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[Flashcoders] Flash Lite 2.0 phone list

2006-01-12 Thread Joe Cutting
Well I've installed the Flash Lite 2.0 and one of the more 
interesting parts is the long list
of possible "Test Devices". Now it shows you the Nokia ones which are 
on the website,
but greyed out there are also about 15 different phone manufacturers 
and a long list of phones, including
even some extra Nokia ones. Presumably this is a list of all the 
existing Symbian phones.


Now as far as I can see this list could be

- All the phones that could be supported using the current technology 
once distribution deals

with the manufacturers are sorted out

- All the phones that the current player will run on once the current 
testing period

is over.

- All the phones that the Flash Lite 2.0 player could be ported to if 
someone pays

Macrobe to do it.

Which of these applies will make a big difference to the speed of adoption - if
the current player will be released for all these models in a few months then
this could become quite big pretty quickly - otherwise its going to 
take a while.


Can anyone shed any light on this?

Cheers

Joe

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