[Flashcoders] Understanding dynamic classes

2006-02-01 Thread Helmut Granda
Since we are in the understanding mode, I want to throw a question out
there.

 

Las week I made a component similar to the radio button component. While I
was working on this I requested help understanding the way the component
works. Eric (ericCD) suggested making a manager class:

 

--

Make a manager class that basically allows objects to register with it, and
then have it do what you want it to do. It can dispatch events and also
enable/disable members of the group.

 

-edolecki

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I searched all over trying to find a way to incorporate his comments into my
component. I finally gave up and created a global variable to track my
buttons (actually it was a variable talking to _root).

 

Now since people are talking _globals I figure I would throw this out there.

 

Morten commented earlier:

 

--

I can make the same, now it's just OOP:

 

dynamic class APP {}

--

 

My question is, is that what Eric was refereeing to? And if that is what he
was referring to what would be the best way to implement such functionality?

 

All I was trying to achieve was to have each component track itself and
letting know all the components in the stage which one was being selected
and viceversa.

 

TIA



.helmut.

 

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Re: [Flashcoders] Understanding dynamic classes

2006-02-01 Thread Troy Rollins


On Feb 1, 2006, at 7:00 PM, Helmut Granda wrote:

Las week I made a component similar to the radio button component.  
While I
was working on this I requested help understanding the way the  
component

works. Eric (ericCD) suggested making a manager class:


In a general sense, the concept is to make a class who's  
responsibility it is to maintain your buttons. There are a lot of  
ways to go about this. Usually, the manager is a singleton, and  
generation of the button instances may or may not be within its  
responsibility as well.


But the gist is this... create the manager. Give it a property which  
is an array to hold your buttonObjects. When you create a new button,  
ask the manager to add a reference to it in that array. When you  
delete a button (probably through a function in the manager), remove  
it from the array. When you select a button, the manager can cycle  
through the array as a loop, deselecting all the other buttons. So,  
the manager might have functions for creating buttons, deleting  
buttons, selecting or deselecting buttons, returning the current  
selected button, and so on.


One manager instance, many button instances.

Once you get going with manager objects, you'll find uses for them  
almost anytime you have multiple instances of a class.


And no, as long as the manager is pre-defined with an array to hold  
your button references, it does not need to be a dynamic class. The  
reason that was cited as an alternative to _globals is that dynamic  
classes can have new properties defined at runtime.


HTH.

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Re: [Flashcoders] Understanding dynamic classes

2006-02-01 Thread Helmut Granda
Troy, thanks for such a great explanation. I had the same idea I just 
cant wrap it around my head in programming termns.


For example if I have a property (array) inside a class it must be 
public so other intances of the object I create can access that property 
and they can write to it? And if that is true, how would I avoid having 
the property re-assigned (deleted or set back to its default value)? I 
guess here is where I have to have an if statement that checks if the 
property (array) already has values just push the next values into it.


Would you say Im in the right track?

Thanks again for the explanation.

...helmut

Troy Rollins wrote:



On Feb 1, 2006, at 7:00 PM, Helmut Granda wrote:

Las week I made a component similar to the radio button component.  
While I
was working on this I requested help understanding the way the  
component

works. Eric (ericCD) suggested making a manager class:



In a general sense, the concept is to make a class who's  
responsibility it is to maintain your buttons. There are a lot of  
ways to go about this. Usually, the manager is a singleton, and  
generation of the button instances may or may not be within its  
responsibility as well.


But the gist is this... create the manager. Give it a property which  
is an array to hold your buttonObjects. When you create a new button,  
ask the manager to add a reference to it in that array. When you  
delete a button (probably through a function in the manager), remove  
it from the array. When you select a button, the manager can cycle  
through the array as a loop, deselecting all the other buttons. So,  
the manager might have functions for creating buttons, deleting  
buttons, selecting or deselecting buttons, returning the current  
selected button, and so on.


One manager instance, many button instances.

Once you get going with manager objects, you'll find uses for them  
almost anytime you have multiple instances of a class.


And no, as long as the manager is pre-defined with an array to hold  
your button references, it does not need to be a dynamic class. The  
reason that was cited as an alternative to _globals is that dynamic  
classes can have new properties defined at runtime.


HTH.

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RE: [Flashcoders] Understanding dynamic classes

2006-02-01 Thread Bjorn Schultheiss
So far in AS2 Development I have not found a case yet to use Dynamic
Classes.

Has anyone come across an essential use for a Dynamic Class while developing
an RIA, besides laziness.

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Troy, thanks for such a great explanation. I had the same idea I just 
cant wrap it around my head in programming termns.

For example if I have a property (array) inside a class it must be 
public so other intances of the object I create can access that property 
and they can write to it? And if that is true, how would I avoid having 
the property re-assigned (deleted or set back to its default value)? I 
guess here is where I have to have an if statement that checks if the 
property (array) already has values just push the next values into it.

Would you say Im in the right track?

Thanks again for the explanation.

...helmut

Troy Rollins wrote:


 On Feb 1, 2006, at 7:00 PM, Helmut Granda wrote:

 Las week I made a component similar to the radio button component.  
 While I
 was working on this I requested help understanding the way the  
 component
 works. Eric (ericCD) suggested making a manager class:


 In a general sense, the concept is to make a class who's  
 responsibility it is to maintain your buttons. There are a lot of  
 ways to go about this. Usually, the manager is a singleton, and  
 generation of the button instances may or may not be within its  
 responsibility as well.

 But the gist is this... create the manager. Give it a property which  
 is an array to hold your buttonObjects. When you create a new button,  
 ask the manager to add a reference to it in that array. When you  
 delete a button (probably through a function in the manager), remove  
 it from the array. When you select a button, the manager can cycle  
 through the array as a loop, deselecting all the other buttons. So,  
 the manager might have functions for creating buttons, deleting  
 buttons, selecting or deselecting buttons, returning the current  
 selected button, and so on.

 One manager instance, many button instances.

 Once you get going with manager objects, you'll find uses for them  
 almost anytime you have multiple instances of a class.

 And no, as long as the manager is pre-defined with an array to hold  
 your button references, it does not need to be a dynamic class. The  
 reason that was cited as an alternative to _globals is that dynamic  
 classes can have new properties defined at runtime.

 HTH.

 -- 
 Troy
 RPSystems, Ltd.
 http://www.rpsystems.net


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Re: [Flashcoders] Understanding dynamic classes

2006-02-01 Thread Troy Rollins


On Feb 1, 2006, at 10:23 PM, Bjorn Schultheiss wrote:

Has anyone come across an essential use for a Dynamic Class while  
developing

an RIA, besides laziness.


Not if you go and rule out the number one reason I've done it just  
like that.  ;-)


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Re: [Flashcoders] Understanding dynamic classes

2006-02-01 Thread Troy Rollins


On Feb 1, 2006, at 10:14 PM, Helmut Granda wrote:

For example if I have a property (array) inside a class it must be  
public so other intances of the object I create can access that  
property and they can write to it? And if that is true, how would I  
avoid having the property re-assigned (deleted or set back to its  
default value)? I guess here is where I have to have an if  
statement that checks if the property (array) already has values  
just push the next values into it.


Would you say Im in the right track?


Mostly.

Typically, the manager itself would have a function to instantiate  
the button. But even if you don't go that route, you would probably  
use a setter method. Which (from the button's perspective) might  
look something like:


buttonManager.addButton(this);

And then the button manager's function would receive that reference,  
perhaps loop through the array to be sure it isn't already there, and  
if not, add it with a array.push


More clear?
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Re: [Flashcoders] Understanding dynamic classes

2006-02-01 Thread Helmut Granda

Troy,

Lots of great advise, I felt for a minute I had it but then all of the 
sudden everything faded away...


Where I get confused is when I have to pass the reference from the 
button to the manager function. All the methods come from the same 
class? for a minute I thought I needed 2 classes (1 to initiate the 
button, 2 to handle the references of the buttons).


Thanks for your advice, Im going to start playing with this great ideas.

Helmut.



Troy Rollins wrote:



On Feb 1, 2006, at 10:14 PM, Helmut Granda wrote:

For example if I have a property (array) inside a class it must be  
public so other intances of the object I create can access that  
property and they can write to it? And if that is true, how would I  
avoid having the property re-assigned (deleted or set back to its  
default value)? I guess here is where I have to have an if  statement 
that checks if the property (array) already has values  just push 
the next values into it.


Would you say Im in the right track?



Mostly.

Typically, the manager itself would have a function to instantiate  
the button. But even if you don't go that route, you would probably  
use a setter method. Which (from the button's perspective) might  
look something like:


buttonManager.addButton(this);

And then the button manager's function would receive that reference,  
perhaps loop through the array to be sure it isn't already there, and  
if not, add it with a array.push


More clear?
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Re: [Flashcoders] Understanding dynamic classes

2006-02-01 Thread Troy Rollins


On Feb 2, 2006, at 12:24 AM, Helmut Granda wrote:

Where I get confused is when I have to pass the reference from the  
button to the manager function. All the methods come from the same  
class? for a minute I thought I needed 2 classes (1 to initiate the  
button, 2 to handle the references of the buttons).


The point is, you can do it either way (as well as a few others) -  
but ultimately the manager needs a reference of the button object to  
work with. You can instantiate the buttons from within the manager,  
or outside the manager, whichever way your mind, and program design  
tell you to go.


For instance, if you have a class bound to a UI object, and are  
placing them on stage by drag and drop, you might want the manager to  
be completely separate... just an object in memory with references  
and functions designed to keep track of the on stage buttons for you.


Later on, you'll get really tricky and have the button create the  
manager for itself if it doesn't already exist.  ;-)


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