Re: [Flashcoders] Version control and Flash
Thank you all for your replies, I'm actually a flex guy and used to classes, but my flash friends are still in AS1/AS2 world and have never done classes before. I dont think their OO skills have had much of a stretch yet, so thats why I said #include On 8/10/07, Hans Wichman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hehe no worries there, I'm sure we all do stuff that causes someone else to > say they need to kill... etc :) > It was meant as a joke nothing harsh to be honest:). > > You are hijacking this thread though, which is in itself ofcourse enough > reason to ... :) > > But short answer: > - buy a good object oriented book, Essential Actionscript for example. > > Probably a book with something on classes, actionscript, classes in > actionscript, and nothing or very little on patterns. Although some patterns > are very simple I'd stay away from them for a while if you are still > struggling to come to terms with object orientation. > > Anyway once you've finished your first book, grab a new one and keep doing > that :) > > Some answer though: > - you dont code AS2 classes on frames, you just write as2 classes in files. > Once you compile your movie, flash lets you specify in which frame your > classes should be exported. > - if your class is in a package a.b.c.MyClass flash expects you to hand it a > directory, called a classpath, which will have a folder structure mimicking > your package structure, say a\b\c\MyClass.as that is all there is to it. > > This is all pretty basic stuff/info though, most of which should become > clear to you when you struggle through Flash's help files. > > greetz > JC > > > On 8/10/07, Marcelo Wolfgang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hi from someone about to be killed, revived and killed again and > > probably revived to be torture and killed again, again. > > > > I code everything on the second frame of my main movie, since I could > > till today understand how to code in classes and use them, but I really > > like to learn, since I don't want to die three times, what do you guys > > suggest me? > > > > I code use functions, returns, and strong type almost everything I do, > > my main complications to understand classes, is that english is not my > > primary language, and all the documents I've read, got me confusing, > > even thought I think my english is not that bad. > > > > And I really didn't understood the whole path thing with classes, and > > how to code them on the second frame so I can have very light preloaders. > > > > C'mon be merciful :) > > > > David Ngo wrote: > > > "Anyone found guilty of using AS includes, is killed, revived and killed > > > again :)" > > > > > > > > > LOL. I say the same thing about people using onEnterFrame's for almost > > > everything, like XML loading/parsing. > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > > > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > > > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > > > > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > > > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > > > http://www.figleaf.com > > > http://training.figleaf.com > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > > http://www.figleaf.com > > http://training.figleaf.com > > > ___ > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > http://www.figleaf.com > http://training.figleaf.com > ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Version control and Flash
Hehe no worries there, I'm sure we all do stuff that causes someone else to say they need to kill... etc :) It was meant as a joke nothing harsh to be honest:). You are hijacking this thread though, which is in itself ofcourse enough reason to ... :) But short answer: - buy a good object oriented book, Essential Actionscript for example. Probably a book with something on classes, actionscript, classes in actionscript, and nothing or very little on patterns. Although some patterns are very simple I'd stay away from them for a while if you are still struggling to come to terms with object orientation. Anyway once you've finished your first book, grab a new one and keep doing that :) Some answer though: - you dont code AS2 classes on frames, you just write as2 classes in files. Once you compile your movie, flash lets you specify in which frame your classes should be exported. - if your class is in a package a.b.c.MyClass flash expects you to hand it a directory, called a classpath, which will have a folder structure mimicking your package structure, say a\b\c\MyClass.as that is all there is to it. This is all pretty basic stuff/info though, most of which should become clear to you when you struggle through Flash's help files. greetz JC On 8/10/07, Marcelo Wolfgang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi from someone about to be killed, revived and killed again and > probably revived to be torture and killed again, again. > > I code everything on the second frame of my main movie, since I could > till today understand how to code in classes and use them, but I really > like to learn, since I don't want to die three times, what do you guys > suggest me? > > I code use functions, returns, and strong type almost everything I do, > my main complications to understand classes, is that english is not my > primary language, and all the documents I've read, got me confusing, > even thought I think my english is not that bad. > > And I really didn't understood the whole path thing with classes, and > how to code them on the second frame so I can have very light preloaders. > > C'mon be merciful :) > > David Ngo wrote: > > "Anyone found guilty of using AS includes, is killed, revived and killed > > again :)" > > > > > > LOL. I say the same thing about people using onEnterFrame's for almost > > everything, like XML loading/parsing. > > > > > > > > ___ > > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > > http://www.figleaf.com > > http://training.figleaf.com > > > > > > ___ > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > http://www.figleaf.com > http://training.figleaf.com > ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Version control and Flash
Hans is giving you the full pro solution. Once you have your code out of Flash into packages, start to really use the version control with trunks tags and branches. Eclipse and Subversion ill help with this. Manage the checkout, check-in, branching and merging easily Ron Hans Wichman wrote: Hi, we use standard folders for our projects: \trunk\ \tags\ \branches\ \trunk\project.fla \trunk\project.fdp \trunk\deploy\project.swf \trunk\sources\ \trunk\resources\injection\injection.swf \etc All project sources go into \trunk\sources. Anyone found guilty of using AS includes, is killed, revived and killed again :). We are still struggling with the assets / code in the fla thingy though, swfmill might help you there, not sure through. greetz JC On 8/10/07, Rick Schmitty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We are starting to add our flash projects to SVN but by large every project has all of the AS code inside the actual movie leaving us with just fla's in the repo We are working on getting everyone to develop with .as files they include in the fla, but is there a limit as to how far that should go? Should there be any code in the flas besides the #includes? How do you go about organizing your folders when you are making an AS1/AS2 project? Do you mimic the folders in the fla with the appropriate as file locations? I'd like to make it easier for everyone to use SVN while still getting the benefit of having plain text code in the repo Thanks for any guidance ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Version control and Flash
David Ngo wrote:
"Anyone found guilty of using AS includes, is killed, revived and killed
again :)"
LOL. I say the same thing about people using onEnterFrame's for almost
everything, like XML loading/parsing.
onClipEvent(load){
}
I kid you not, I've seen this in Flash 8 projects.
:sigh:
-Ricky
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Re: [Flashcoders] Version control and Flash
Rick Schmitty wrote: We are starting to add our flash projects to SVN but by large every project has all of the AS code inside the actual movie leaving us with just fla's in the repo We are working on getting everyone to develop with .as files they include in the fla, but is there a limit as to how far that should go? When you have all of the includes gone and all of the code out of the fla's you will be ready to start developing new functionality. Should there be any code in the flas besides the #includes? No. No includes either. You probably do not need any fla files either once you get off the timeline unless you are doing animations but they will not be hard to build or manage once they have no connection to script. How do you go about organizing your folders when you are making an AS1/AS2 project? Into packages. Under the src directory build a tree com. smitty. yourapplication model view controller util Do you mimic the folders in the fla with the appropriate as file locations? Nothing in the fla's except animations. Draw everything else on a stage. If you want a button, create one in ActionScript and put it on the stage or use Flex or ActionStep or some other view technology I'd like to make it easier for everyone to use SVN while still getting the benefit of having plain text code in the repo You are on the right track. Get your code into Eclipse, get the ActionScript plug-in and program with the pros. Save your Flash licenses for the animators. Thanks for any guidance ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Version control and Flash
Hi from someone about to be killed, revived and killed again and probably revived to be torture and killed again, again. I code everything on the second frame of my main movie, since I could till today understand how to code in classes and use them, but I really like to learn, since I don't want to die three times, what do you guys suggest me? I code use functions, returns, and strong type almost everything I do, my main complications to understand classes, is that english is not my primary language, and all the documents I've read, got me confusing, even thought I think my english is not that bad. And I really didn't understood the whole path thing with classes, and how to code them on the second frame so I can have very light preloaders. C'mon be merciful :) David Ngo wrote: "Anyone found guilty of using AS includes, is killed, revived and killed again :)" LOL. I say the same thing about people using onEnterFrame's for almost everything, like XML loading/parsing. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Version control and Flash
"Anyone found guilty of using AS includes, is killed, revived and killed again :)" LOL. I say the same thing about people using onEnterFrame's for almost everything, like XML loading/parsing. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Version control and Flash
On 8/10/07, Rick Schmitty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Should there be any code in the flas besides the #includes? #includes are already deprecated (by classes and linked symbols), so you shouldn't even have that. As I see it, pretty much the only time you should have timeline code is when you need to cue something from an animation. Even then it should just be a single call to a function in that movie symbol's class, e.g. onElementAppear() or onFadeComplete() or something. There may be a few other times you use timeline code in the root FLA, like for Express Install, etc., but, by and large, people should be writing code as classes in AS files, organizing the AS classes into packages, and linking those classes to movieclip symbols in the library. -- T. Michael Keesey Director of Technology Exopolis, Inc. 2894 Rowena Avenue Ste. B Los Angeles, California 90039 -- The Dinosauricon: http://dino.lm.com/ Parry & Carney: http://parryandcarney.com/ ISPN Forum: http://www.phylonames.org/forum/ ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Version control and Flash
Hi, we use standard folders for our projects: \trunk\ \tags\ \branches\ \trunk\project.fla \trunk\project.fdp \trunk\deploy\project.swf \trunk\sources\ \trunk\resources\injection\injection.swf \etc All project sources go into \trunk\sources. Anyone found guilty of using AS includes, is killed, revived and killed again :). We are still struggling with the assets / code in the fla thingy though, swfmill might help you there, not sure through. greetz JC On 8/10/07, Rick Schmitty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We are starting to add our flash projects to SVN but by large every > project has all of the AS code inside the actual movie leaving us with > just fla's in the repo > > We are working on getting everyone to develop with .as files they > include in the fla, but is there a limit as to how far that should go? > > Should there be any code in the flas besides the #includes? > > How do you go about organizing your folders when you are making an > AS1/AS2 project? > > Do you mimic the folders in the fla with the appropriate as file > locations? > > I'd like to make it easier for everyone to use SVN while still getting > the benefit of having plain text code in the repo > > > Thanks for any guidance > ___ > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > http://www.figleaf.com > http://training.figleaf.com > ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
