Re: [Flashcoders] advanced flash AS 2.0/3.0 book?

2006-03-15 Thread Mark Winterhalder
On 3/11/06, Jonathan Berry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey Flashers, how about a book for an intermediate/advanced level coder?

how about a book that isn't specifically for flash?

after reading one recommendation for it after another, i finally got
myself Heads First: Design Patterns () and
so far i'm very happy with it.
(if you don't know what design patterns are, read

and see if something like that is of interest for you.)

the book explains a few selected common and useful patterns very
thoroughly. you not only learn how they work and how to implement
them, but also /why/ they are useful, in what kind of situations they
are useful, and in which they aren't.
the presentation may not be for everybody, but i went for it and it
works for me.

hth,
mark

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RE: [Flashcoders] advanced flash AS 2.0/3.0 book?

2006-03-15 Thread Merrill, Jason
Agreed, the Friend of Ed book on Object Oriented Actionscript is great.

Jason Merrill   |   E-Learning Solutions   |  icfconsulting.com










>>-Original Message-
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders-
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Manuel Saint-Victor
>>Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 11:41 AM
>>To: Flashcoders mailing list
>>Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] advanced flash AS 2.0/3.0 book?
>>
>>I'd like to second that recommendation.  I just picked that up
yesterday and
>>have already learned a good bit from it.  I enjoy that books like this
are
>>finally coming out.  Another good thing about this book so far is that
The
>>examples are short and focused on what you are supposed to be learning
so
>>before the attention span is shot you're throwing in two or three new
lines
>>of code and having the reasons clarified.
>>
>>Another book that I've been enjoying a  piece at a time is Object
Oriented
>>Actionscript in Flash 8.  also from FOE.  I'm learning a lot from it.
The
>>only gripe I have is that I feel as if the case study- although
excellent
>>and illustrative about the techniques- has been a turn off in my
current
>>situation because I need to build a component set quick fast and in a
hurry
>>at work.
>>It is really nice though that it's taking me through the planning and
>>implementation of building a component architecture from the ground up
and
>>why.
>>
>>I learned a ton about what could be done with components from The Flex
book
>>because despite being geared toward Flex development it exposed some
of the
>>API and uses of it that I had not come across.
>>
>>I would recommend the Flash -Pro app development training from the
source -I
>>learned a lot from that book but I think that with Flex on the
horizon-that
>>might not be how things are done very soon.
>>
>>I agree with you that most of the book recommendations out right now
are
>>dated.  This is a very fast moving period in ActionScript and even
with the
>>books fresh off the press I'm wondering if they're not already behind
the
>>times and it is almost impossible to find books that go beyond the
very
>>basic.
>>
>>
>>
>>Mani
>>
>>On 3/11/06, Jonathan Berry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Rich, that sounds like something that I could use. Mastery and not
just
>>> introductory stuff. The books I have read just go over the basic
>>> components,
>>> like list or scrollpane, not things like the datagrid or learning
how to
>>> use
>>> a cellrenderer. Thanks again.
>>>
>>> On 3/11/06, Rich Rodecker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > well, you mentioned you were up on your components, so I don't
know
>>> > how 'advanced' this book would be for you...but I am reading >> > href="
>>> >
>>>
>>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect?link_code=ur2&tag=richrodec
ker-
>>20&camp=1789&creative=9325&path=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fgp%2F
>>product%2F1590595939%2Fqid%3D1142032643%2Fsr%3D2-
>>1%2Fref%3Dpd_bbs_b_2_1%3Fs%3Dbooks%26v%3Dglance%26n%3D283155
>>> > ">AdvancED
>>> > Actionscript Components : Mastering the Flash Component
>>> > Architecture and I'm really digging it. The author doesn't
just
>>> > show you the methods and properties availabel to a component, like
the
>>> > other book that is just a reprint of the help docs, he goes into
the
>>> > flash component architcture itself to give you a better
understanding
>>> > of how things are working, and whats going on behind the scenes.
>>> >
>>> > He goes into this thing about XLEFF (XML Layout engine for Flash)
for
>>> > a little bit, but I just kinda glossed over that so far, since im
not
>>> > really interested, i just want to undersatnd the components
>>> > betterbut skipping over all that stuff doesnt affect
understanding
>>> > anything else in the book.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 3/11/06, Jonathan Berry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> > > Thanks for the reply, Karthik. I checked the archives and came
up with
>>> > 136
>>> > > prior messages in relation to "advanced books" but none that
were
>>> > current,
>>> > > as in the last year or so. I noticed someone else just posted in
>>> > relation to
>>> > > a book recommendation and got som

Re: [Flashcoders] advanced flash AS 2.0/3.0 book?

2006-03-14 Thread Manuel Saint-Victor
I'd like to second that recommendation.  I just picked that up yesterday and
have already learned a good bit from it.  I enjoy that books like this are
finally coming out.  Another good thing about this book so far is that The
examples are short and focused on what you are supposed to be learning so
before the attention span is shot you're throwing in two or three new lines
of code and having the reasons clarified.

Another book that I've been enjoying a  piece at a time is Object Oriented
Actionscript in Flash 8.  also from FOE.  I'm learning a lot from it.  The
only gripe I have is that I feel as if the case study- although excellent
and illustrative about the techniques- has been a turn off in my current
situation because I need to build a component set quick fast and in a hurry
at work.
It is really nice though that it's taking me through the planning and
implementation of building a component architecture from the ground up and
why.

I learned a ton about what could be done with components from The Flex book
because despite being geared toward Flex development it exposed some of the
API and uses of it that I had not come across.

I would recommend the Flash -Pro app development training from the source -I
learned a lot from that book but I think that with Flex on the horizon-that
might not be how things are done very soon.

I agree with you that most of the book recommendations out right now are
dated.  This is a very fast moving period in ActionScript and even with the
books fresh off the press I'm wondering if they're not already behind the
times and it is almost impossible to find books that go beyond the very
basic.



Mani

On 3/11/06, Jonathan Berry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Rich, that sounds like something that I could use. Mastery and not just
> introductory stuff. The books I have read just go over the basic
> components,
> like list or scrollpane, not things like the datagrid or learning how to
> use
> a cellrenderer. Thanks again.
>
> On 3/11/06, Rich Rodecker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > well, you mentioned you were up on your components, so I don't know
> > how 'advanced' this book would be for you...but I am reading  > href="
> >
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect?link_code=ur2&tag=richrodecker-20&camp=1789&creative=9325&path=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fgp%2Fproduct%2F1590595939%2Fqid%3D1142032643%2Fsr%3D2-1%2Fref%3Dpd_bbs_b_2_1%3Fs%3Dbooks%26v%3Dglance%26n%3D283155
> > ">AdvancED
> > Actionscript Components : Mastering the Flash Component
> > Architecture and I'm really digging it. The author doesn't just
> > show you the methods and properties availabel to a component, like the
> > other book that is just a reprint of the help docs, he goes into the
> > flash component architcture itself to give you a better understanding
> > of how things are working, and whats going on behind the scenes.
> >
> > He goes into this thing about XLEFF (XML Layout engine for Flash) for
> > a little bit, but I just kinda glossed over that so far, since im not
> > really interested, i just want to undersatnd the components
> > betterbut skipping over all that stuff doesnt affect understanding
> > anything else in the book.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 3/11/06, Jonathan Berry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Thanks for the reply, Karthik. I checked the archives and came up with
> > 136
> > > prior messages in relation to "advanced books" but none that were
> > current,
> > > as in the last year or so. I noticed someone else just posted in
> > relation to
> > > a book recommendation and got some good responses, so it would be
> great
> > if
> > > someone would have some information on an advanced book.
> > >
> > > On 3/10/06, Karthik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hey Flashers, how about a book for an intermediate/advanced level
> > coder?
> > > > I
> > > > > don't want to read about what objects, properties, methods,
> events,
> > > > event
> > > > > handlers, and listeners are, or even how to write basic classes.
> > That
> > > > stuff
> > > > > is always repeated in both the AS books (or any introductory
> > programming
> > > > > books for that matter - rant) that I have read. I read the
> deHaans'
> > > > > Macromedia Press books starting with MX2004 and the AS 2.0 book
> for
> > > > Flash 8.
> > > > > I also own the AS 2.0 reference for Flash 8 and the Flash 8
> > component
> > > > > reference. I guess I am just looking for something that will have
> > more
> > > > > hardcore examples, practical ones at that. I do remember seeing an
> > > > advanced
> > > > > book for MX a few years ago and wondered if they have anything
> like
> > that
> > > > for
> > > > > 2004 or 8. Your help much to be appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > Please check the archives. Book recommendations posts appear once
> > > > every 36.34 hours on this list :) The link is in the footer.
> > > >
> > > > This is the first time I've seen one of these lame corporate
> > > > disclaimer footnotes from a gmail addres

RE: [Flashcoders] advanced flash AS 2.0/3.0 book?

2006-03-14 Thread Keith Takayesu
I just got the AdvancED ActionScript Components book for our team, too.
It is one of the best explanations of the V2 Component architecture that
I've read to date.  I like the way that the examples are built up for
those who are new to components and object-oriented techniques, and then
gets into the details of how each type of built-in component can, and
should be used.

One of those books that I wish we had a few months ago...

Here is the tiny url for the same book, for those who had a broken
link...
http://tinyurl.com/hhb29

I would also recommend another new Friends of Ed book, "Object-Oriented
ActionScript for Flash 8". It gets into the details and best practices
of objec-oriented Flash development, and topics such as data binding and
web services. It even discusses the Flash/JavaScript Integration Kit.
http://tinyurl.com/zurlo

Blue Skies,
Keith

-Original Message-
From: Jonathan Berry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: March 11, 2006 8:52 PM
To: Flashcoders mailing list
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] advanced flash AS 2.0/3.0 book?


Rich, that sounds like something that I could use. Mastery and not just
introductory stuff. The books I have read just go over the basic
components, like list or scrollpane, not things like the datagrid or
learning how to use a cellrenderer. Thanks again.

On 3/11/06, Rich Rodecker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> well, you mentioned you were up on your components, so I don't know 
> how 'advanced' this book would be for you...but I am reading http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect?link_code=ur2&tag=richrodecke
r-20&camp=1789&creative=9325&path=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fgp%2Fpro
duct%2F1590595939%2Fqid%3D1142032643%2Fsr%3D2-1%2Fref%3Dpd_bbs_b_2_1%3Fs
%3Dbooks%26v%3Dglance%26n%3D283155
> ">AdvancED
> Actionscript Components : Mastering the Flash Component
> Architecture and I'm really digging it. The author doesn't just
> show you the methods and properties availabel to a component, like the
> other book that is just a reprint of the help docs, he goes into the
> flash component architcture itself to give you a better understanding
> of how things are working, and whats going on behind the scenes.
>
> He goes into this thing about XLEFF (XML Layout engine for Flash) for 
> a little bit, but I just kinda glossed over that so far, since im not 
> really interested, i just want to undersatnd the components 
> betterbut skipping over all that stuff doesnt affect understanding

> anything else in the book.
>
>
>
> On 3/11/06, Jonathan Berry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Thanks for the reply, Karthik. I checked the archives and came up 
> > with
> 136
> > prior messages in relation to "advanced books" but none that were
> current,
> > as in the last year or so. I noticed someone else just posted in
> relation to
> > a book recommendation and got some good responses, so it would be 
> > great
> if
> > someone would have some information on an advanced book.
> >
> > On 3/10/06, Karthik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hey Flashers, how about a book for an intermediate/advanced 
> > > > level
> coder?
> > > I
> > > > don't want to read about what objects, properties, methods, 
> > > > events,
> > > event
> > > > handlers, and listeners are, or even how to write basic classes.
> That
> > > stuff
> > > > is always repeated in both the AS books (or any introductory
> programming
> > > > books for that matter - rant) that I have read. I read the 
> > > > deHaans' Macromedia Press books starting with MX2004 and the AS 
> > > > 2.0 book for
> > > Flash 8.
> > > > I also own the AS 2.0 reference for Flash 8 and the Flash 8
> component
> > > > reference. I guess I am just looking for something that will 
> > > > have
> more
> > > > hardcore examples, practical ones at that. I do remember seeing 
> > > > an
> > > advanced
> > > > book for MX a few years ago and wondered if they have anything 
> > > > like
> that
> > > for
> > > > 2004 or 8. Your help much to be appreciated.
> > >
> > > Please check the archives. Book recommendations posts appear once 
> > > every 36.34 hours on this list :) The link is in the footer.
> > >
> > > This is the first time I've seen one of these lame corporate 
> > > disclaimer footnotes from a gmail address. Please do us a favour 
> > > and lose it - all your e-mails are being distributed, disseminated

> > > and c

Re: [Flashcoders] advanced flash AS 2.0/3.0 book?

2006-03-11 Thread Jonathan Berry
Rich, that sounds like something that I could use. Mastery and not just
introductory stuff. The books I have read just go over the basic components,
like list or scrollpane, not things like the datagrid or learning how to use
a cellrenderer. Thanks again.

On 3/11/06, Rich Rodecker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> well, you mentioned you were up on your components, so I don't know
> how 'advanced' this book would be for you...but I am reading  href="
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect?link_code=ur2&tag=richrodecker-20&camp=1789&creative=9325&path=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fgp%2Fproduct%2F1590595939%2Fqid%3D1142032643%2Fsr%3D2-1%2Fref%3Dpd_bbs_b_2_1%3Fs%3Dbooks%26v%3Dglance%26n%3D283155
> ">AdvancED
> Actionscript Components : Mastering the Flash Component
> Architecture and I'm really digging it. The author doesn't just
> show you the methods and properties availabel to a component, like the
> other book that is just a reprint of the help docs, he goes into the
> flash component architcture itself to give you a better understanding
> of how things are working, and whats going on behind the scenes.
>
> He goes into this thing about XLEFF (XML Layout engine for Flash) for
> a little bit, but I just kinda glossed over that so far, since im not
> really interested, i just want to undersatnd the components
> betterbut skipping over all that stuff doesnt affect understanding
> anything else in the book.
>
>
>
> On 3/11/06, Jonathan Berry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Thanks for the reply, Karthik. I checked the archives and came up with
> 136
> > prior messages in relation to "advanced books" but none that were
> current,
> > as in the last year or so. I noticed someone else just posted in
> relation to
> > a book recommendation and got some good responses, so it would be great
> if
> > someone would have some information on an advanced book.
> >
> > On 3/10/06, Karthik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hey Flashers, how about a book for an intermediate/advanced level
> coder?
> > > I
> > > > don't want to read about what objects, properties, methods, events,
> > > event
> > > > handlers, and listeners are, or even how to write basic classes.
> That
> > > stuff
> > > > is always repeated in both the AS books (or any introductory
> programming
> > > > books for that matter - rant) that I have read. I read the deHaans'
> > > > Macromedia Press books starting with MX2004 and the AS 2.0 book for
> > > Flash 8.
> > > > I also own the AS 2.0 reference for Flash 8 and the Flash 8
> component
> > > > reference. I guess I am just looking for something that will have
> more
> > > > hardcore examples, practical ones at that. I do remember seeing an
> > > advanced
> > > > book for MX a few years ago and wondered if they have anything like
> that
> > > for
> > > > 2004 or 8. Your help much to be appreciated.
> > >
> > > Please check the archives. Book recommendations posts appear once
> > > every 36.34 hours on this list :) The link is in the footer.
> > >
> > > This is the first time I've seen one of these lame corporate
> > > disclaimer footnotes from a gmail address. Please do us a favour and
> > > lose it - all your e-mails are being distributed, disseminated  and
> > > copied with utter disregard for the Electronic Communications Privacy
> > > Act :P
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Re: [Flashcoders] advanced flash AS 2.0/3.0 book?

2006-03-11 Thread Rich Rodecker
heh well i guess that didnt work.

On 3/11/06, Rich Rodecker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> well, you mentioned you were up on your components, so I don't know
> how 'advanced' this book would be for you...but I am reading  href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect?link_code=ur2&tag=richrodecker-20&camp=1789&creative=9325&path=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fgp%2Fproduct%2F1590595939%2Fqid%3D1142032643%2Fsr%3D2-1%2Fref%3Dpd_bbs_b_2_1%3Fs%3Dbooks%26v%3Dglance%26n%3D283155";>AdvancED
> Actionscript Components : Mastering the Flash Component
> Architecture and I'm really digging it. The author doesn't just
> show you the methods and properties availabel to a component, like the
> other book that is just a reprint of the help docs, he goes into the
> flash component architcture itself to give you a better understanding
> of how things are working, and whats going on behind the scenes.
>
> He goes into this thing about XLEFF (XML Layout engine for Flash) for
> a little bit, but I just kinda glossed over that so far, since im not
> really interested, i just want to undersatnd the components
> betterbut skipping over all that stuff doesnt affect understanding
> anything else in the book.
>
>
>
> On 3/11/06, Jonathan Berry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Thanks for the reply, Karthik. I checked the archives and came up with 136
> > prior messages in relation to "advanced books" but none that were current,
> > as in the last year or so. I noticed someone else just posted in relation to
> > a book recommendation and got some good responses, so it would be great if
> > someone would have some information on an advanced book.
> >
> > On 3/10/06, Karthik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hey Flashers, how about a book for an intermediate/advanced level coder?
> > > I
> > > > don't want to read about what objects, properties, methods, events,
> > > event
> > > > handlers, and listeners are, or even how to write basic classes. That
> > > stuff
> > > > is always repeated in both the AS books (or any introductory programming
> > > > books for that matter - rant) that I have read. I read the deHaans'
> > > > Macromedia Press books starting with MX2004 and the AS 2.0 book for
> > > Flash 8.
> > > > I also own the AS 2.0 reference for Flash 8 and the Flash 8 component
> > > > reference. I guess I am just looking for something that will have more
> > > > hardcore examples, practical ones at that. I do remember seeing an
> > > advanced
> > > > book for MX a few years ago and wondered if they have anything like that
> > > for
> > > > 2004 or 8. Your help much to be appreciated.
> > >
> > > Please check the archives. Book recommendations posts appear once
> > > every 36.34 hours on this list :) The link is in the footer.
> > >
> > > This is the first time I've seen one of these lame corporate
> > > disclaimer footnotes from a gmail address. Please do us a favour and
> > > lose it - all your e-mails are being distributed, disseminated  and
> > > copied with utter disregard for the Electronic Communications Privacy
> > > Act :P
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Re: [Flashcoders] advanced flash AS 2.0/3.0 book?

2006-03-11 Thread Rich Rodecker
well, you mentioned you were up on your components, so I don't know
how 'advanced' this book would be for you...but I am reading http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect?link_code=ur2&tag=richrodecker-20&camp=1789&creative=9325&path=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fgp%2Fproduct%2F1590595939%2Fqid%3D1142032643%2Fsr%3D2-1%2Fref%3Dpd_bbs_b_2_1%3Fs%3Dbooks%26v%3Dglance%26n%3D283155";>AdvancED
Actionscript Components : Mastering the Flash Component
Architecture and I'm really digging it. The author doesn't just
show you the methods and properties availabel to a component, like the
other book that is just a reprint of the help docs, he goes into the
flash component architcture itself to give you a better understanding
of how things are working, and whats going on behind the scenes.

He goes into this thing about XLEFF (XML Layout engine for Flash) for
a little bit, but I just kinda glossed over that so far, since im not
really interested, i just want to undersatnd the components
betterbut skipping over all that stuff doesnt affect understanding
anything else in the book.



On 3/11/06, Jonathan Berry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks for the reply, Karthik. I checked the archives and came up with 136
> prior messages in relation to "advanced books" but none that were current,
> as in the last year or so. I noticed someone else just posted in relation to
> a book recommendation and got some good responses, so it would be great if
> someone would have some information on an advanced book.
>
> On 3/10/06, Karthik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Hey Flashers, how about a book for an intermediate/advanced level coder?
> > I
> > > don't want to read about what objects, properties, methods, events,
> > event
> > > handlers, and listeners are, or even how to write basic classes. That
> > stuff
> > > is always repeated in both the AS books (or any introductory programming
> > > books for that matter - rant) that I have read. I read the deHaans'
> > > Macromedia Press books starting with MX2004 and the AS 2.0 book for
> > Flash 8.
> > > I also own the AS 2.0 reference for Flash 8 and the Flash 8 component
> > > reference. I guess I am just looking for something that will have more
> > > hardcore examples, practical ones at that. I do remember seeing an
> > advanced
> > > book for MX a few years ago and wondered if they have anything like that
> > for
> > > 2004 or 8. Your help much to be appreciated.
> >
> > Please check the archives. Book recommendations posts appear once
> > every 36.34 hours on this list :) The link is in the footer.
> >
> > This is the first time I've seen one of these lame corporate
> > disclaimer footnotes from a gmail address. Please do us a favour and
> > lose it - all your e-mails are being distributed, disseminated  and
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Re: [Flashcoders] advanced flash AS 2.0/3.0 book?

2006-03-11 Thread Jonathan Berry
Thanks for the reply, Karthik. I checked the archives and came up with 136
prior messages in relation to "advanced books" but none that were current,
as in the last year or so. I noticed someone else just posted in relation to
a book recommendation and got some good responses, so it would be great if
someone would have some information on an advanced book.

On 3/10/06, Karthik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Hey Flashers, how about a book for an intermediate/advanced level coder?
> I
> > don't want to read about what objects, properties, methods, events,
> event
> > handlers, and listeners are, or even how to write basic classes. That
> stuff
> > is always repeated in both the AS books (or any introductory programming
> > books for that matter - rant) that I have read. I read the deHaans'
> > Macromedia Press books starting with MX2004 and the AS 2.0 book for
> Flash 8.
> > I also own the AS 2.0 reference for Flash 8 and the Flash 8 component
> > reference. I guess I am just looking for something that will have more
> > hardcore examples, practical ones at that. I do remember seeing an
> advanced
> > book for MX a few years ago and wondered if they have anything like that
> for
> > 2004 or 8. Your help much to be appreciated.
>
> Please check the archives. Book recommendations posts appear once
> every 36.34 hours on this list :) The link is in the footer.
>
> This is the first time I've seen one of these lame corporate
> disclaimer footnotes from a gmail address. Please do us a favour and
> lose it - all your e-mails are being distributed, disseminated  and
> copied with utter disregard for the Electronic Communications Privacy
> Act :P
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Re: [Flashcoders] advanced flash AS 2.0/3.0 book?

2006-03-10 Thread Karthik
> Hey Flashers, how about a book for an intermediate/advanced level coder? I
> don't want to read about what objects, properties, methods, events, event
> handlers, and listeners are, or even how to write basic classes. That stuff
> is always repeated in both the AS books (or any introductory programming
> books for that matter - rant) that I have read. I read the deHaans'
> Macromedia Press books starting with MX2004 and the AS 2.0 book for Flash 8.
> I also own the AS 2.0 reference for Flash 8 and the Flash 8 component
> reference. I guess I am just looking for something that will have more
> hardcore examples, practical ones at that. I do remember seeing an advanced
> book for MX a few years ago and wondered if they have anything like that for
> 2004 or 8. Your help much to be appreciated.

Please check the archives. Book recommendations posts appear once
every 36.34 hours on this list :) The link is in the footer.

This is the first time I've seen one of these lame corporate
disclaimer footnotes from a gmail address. Please do us a favour and
lose it - all your e-mails are being distributed, disseminated  and
copied with utter disregard for the Electronic Communications Privacy
Act :P
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