RE: [Flashcoders] recommended books on XML in Flash
Thanks Johan, My hardcopy has not arrived yet, so I will certainly do a little pre-reading in the PDF. Ben -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Johan Lopes Sent: vrijdag 6 januari 2006 23:33 To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] recommended books on XML in Flash Hi, Just a note that you can download the Learning ActionScript 2.0 for Macromedia Flash 8 as PDF from MM's site. Although, I myself prefer to buy a hard copy if it's good. Link is here: http://download.macromedia.com/pub/documentation/en/flash/fl8/fl8_learning_a s2.zip /Johan On 1/5/06, Ben Deroo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks for the book suggestions, I ended up ordering a couple of books: Foundation PHP 5 for Flash Foundation ASP.NET for Flash Foundation XML for Flash Learning ActionScript 2.0 for Macromedia Flash 8 Using ActionScript 2.0 Components with Macromedia Flash 8 should keep me busy for a while :-) Ben -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Potter Sent: dinsdag 3 januari 2006 21:49 To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] recommended books on XML in Flash Can I third that? Not to be mean, but I saw them speak at flash forward and Joey Lott had to keep answering questions they didn't know. He (Joey) was really nice about it, but it was ugly. I would start in the docs and here: http://www.actionscript.org/tutorials.shtml http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/actscptckbk/index.html?CMP=IL7015 http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/actscript2/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Lapasa Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 1:14 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] recommended books on XML in Flash I heartily second this notion. Don't the get Jacobsen and Jacobsen book for all the same reasons. I just happened to gain a better insight from Flash's docs than the book. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Merrill, Jason Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 11:14 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] recommended books on XML in Flash Whatever you do, don't buy Flash and XML: A Developers Guide by Dov Jacobsen and Jesse Jacobsen - Addison-Wesley Press - besides being Flash 5, the book sucks. You get the impression these guys are much more into XML than Flash. If they even use Flash at all in their professional lives. Apologies in advance if you're on thist list and one of the authors. There's some good stuff in it, but for someone new to Flash or doing basic stuff, it's not the book for you. But even the advanced stuff lacks depth though. Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Deroo Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 4:29 PM To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: [Flashcoders] recommended books on XML in Flash Hi, The title says it all I guess. Are there any good books out there on the subject of Flash 8 and XML? I found one called XML in Flash from Que publications, but as far as I can tell it is for Flash 5 and was written in 2001. Is that still current? I am assuming not. What books should I read when just getting into this subject, again, using Flash 8 or Flash MX2004? Thanks for your help, Ben ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders NOTICE: This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of this e-mail by you is prohibited. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo
Re: [Flashcoders] recommended books on XML in Flash
Hi, Just a note that you can download the Learning ActionScript 2.0 for Macromedia Flash 8 as PDF from MM's site. Although, I myself prefer to buy a hard copy if it's good. Link is here: http://download.macromedia.com/pub/documentation/en/flash/fl8/fl8_learning_as2.zip /Johan On 1/5/06, Ben Deroo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks for the book suggestions, I ended up ordering a couple of books: Foundation PHP 5 for Flash Foundation ASP.NET for Flash Foundation XML for Flash Learning ActionScript 2.0 for Macromedia Flash 8 Using ActionScript 2.0 Components with Macromedia Flash 8 should keep me busy for a while :-) Ben -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Potter Sent: dinsdag 3 januari 2006 21:49 To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] recommended books on XML in Flash Can I third that? Not to be mean, but I saw them speak at flash forward and Joey Lott had to keep answering questions they didn't know. He (Joey) was really nice about it, but it was ugly. I would start in the docs and here: http://www.actionscript.org/tutorials.shtml http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/actscptckbk/index.html?CMP=IL7015 http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/actscript2/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Lapasa Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 1:14 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] recommended books on XML in Flash I heartily second this notion. Don't the get Jacobsen and Jacobsen book for all the same reasons. I just happened to gain a better insight from Flash's docs than the book. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Merrill, Jason Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 11:14 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] recommended books on XML in Flash Whatever you do, don't buy Flash and XML: A Developers Guide by Dov Jacobsen and Jesse Jacobsen - Addison-Wesley Press - besides being Flash 5, the book sucks. You get the impression these guys are much more into XML than Flash. If they even use Flash at all in their professional lives. Apologies in advance if you're on thist list and one of the authors. There's some good stuff in it, but for someone new to Flash or doing basic stuff, it's not the book for you. But even the advanced stuff lacks depth though. Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Deroo Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 4:29 PM To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: [Flashcoders] recommended books on XML in Flash Hi, The title says it all I guess. Are there any good books out there on the subject of Flash 8 and XML? I found one called XML in Flash from Que publications, but as far as I can tell it is for Flash 5 and was written in 2001. Is that still current? I am assuming not. What books should I read when just getting into this subject, again, using Flash 8 or Flash MX2004? Thanks for your help, Ben ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders NOTICE: This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of this e-mail by you is prohibited. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] recommended books on XML in Flash
Thanks, that will surely come in handy at some point! Regards, DereK Lords From: Johan Lopes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] recommended books on XML in Flash Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 22:32:46 + Hi, Just a note that you can download the Learning ActionScript 2.0 for Macromedia Flash 8 as PDF from MM's site. Although, I myself prefer to buy a hard copy if it's good. Link is here: http://download.macromedia.com/pub/documentation/en/flash/fl8/fl8_learning_as2.zip /Johan On 1/5/06, Ben Deroo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks for the book suggestions, I ended up ordering a couple of books: Foundation PHP 5 for Flash Foundation ASP.NET for Flash Foundation XML for Flash Learning ActionScript 2.0 for Macromedia Flash 8 Using ActionScript 2.0 Components with Macromedia Flash 8 should keep me busy for a while :-) Ben -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Potter Sent: dinsdag 3 januari 2006 21:49 To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] recommended books on XML in Flash Can I third that? Not to be mean, but I saw them speak at flash forward and Joey Lott had to keep answering questions they didn't know. He (Joey) was really nice about it, but it was ugly. I would start in the docs and here: http://www.actionscript.org/tutorials.shtml http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/actscptckbk/index.html?CMP=IL7015 http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/actscript2/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Lapasa Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 1:14 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] recommended books on XML in Flash I heartily second this notion. Don't the get Jacobsen and Jacobsen book for all the same reasons. I just happened to gain a better insight from Flash's docs than the book. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Merrill, Jason Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 11:14 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] recommended books on XML in Flash Whatever you do, don't buy Flash and XML: A Developers Guide by Dov Jacobsen and Jesse Jacobsen - Addison-Wesley Press - besides being Flash 5, the book sucks. You get the impression these guys are much more into XML than Flash. If they even use Flash at all in their professional lives. Apologies in advance if you're on thist list and one of the authors. There's some good stuff in it, but for someone new to Flash or doing basic stuff, it's not the book for you. But even the advanced stuff lacks depth though. Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Deroo Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 4:29 PM To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: [Flashcoders] recommended books on XML in Flash Hi, The title says it all I guess. Are there any good books out there on the subject of Flash 8 and XML? I found one called XML in Flash from Que publications, but as far as I can tell it is for Flash 5 and was written in 2001. Is that still current? I am assuming not. What books should I read when just getting into this subject, again, using Flash 8 or Flash MX2004? Thanks for your help, Ben ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders NOTICE: This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of this e-mail by you is prohibited. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman
RE: [Flashcoders] recommended books on XML in Flash
thanks for the book suggestions, I ended up ordering a couple of books: Foundation PHP 5 for Flash Foundation ASP.NET for Flash Foundation XML for Flash Learning ActionScript 2.0 for Macromedia Flash 8 Using ActionScript 2.0 Components with Macromedia Flash 8 should keep me busy for a while :-) Ben -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Potter Sent: dinsdag 3 januari 2006 21:49 To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] recommended books on XML in Flash Can I third that? Not to be mean, but I saw them speak at flash forward and Joey Lott had to keep answering questions they didn't know. He (Joey) was really nice about it, but it was ugly. I would start in the docs and here: http://www.actionscript.org/tutorials.shtml http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/actscptckbk/index.html?CMP=IL7015 http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/actscript2/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Lapasa Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 1:14 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] recommended books on XML in Flash I heartily second this notion. Don't the get Jacobsen and Jacobsen book for all the same reasons. I just happened to gain a better insight from Flash's docs than the book. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Merrill, Jason Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 11:14 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] recommended books on XML in Flash Whatever you do, don't buy Flash and XML: A Developers Guide by Dov Jacobsen and Jesse Jacobsen - Addison-Wesley Press - besides being Flash 5, the book sucks. You get the impression these guys are much more into XML than Flash. If they even use Flash at all in their professional lives. Apologies in advance if you're on thist list and one of the authors. There's some good stuff in it, but for someone new to Flash or doing basic stuff, it's not the book for you. But even the advanced stuff lacks depth though. Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Deroo Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 4:29 PM To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: [Flashcoders] recommended books on XML in Flash Hi, The title says it all I guess. Are there any good books out there on the subject of Flash 8 and XML? I found one called XML in Flash from Que publications, but as far as I can tell it is for Flash 5 and was written in 2001. Is that still current? I am assuming not. What books should I read when just getting into this subject, again, using Flash 8 or Flash MX2004? Thanks for your help, Ben ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders NOTICE: This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of this e-mail by you is prohibited. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] recommended books on XML in Flash
Whatever you do, don't buy Flash and XML: A Developers Guide by Dov Jacobsen and Jesse Jacobsen - Addison-Wesley Press - besides being Flash 5, the book sucks. You get the impression these guys are much more into XML than Flash. If they even use Flash at all in their professional lives. Apologies in advance if you're on thist list and one of the authors. There's some good stuff in it, but for someone new to Flash or doing basic stuff, it's not the book for you. But even the advanced stuff lacks depth though. Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Deroo Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 4:29 PM To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: [Flashcoders] recommended books on XML in Flash Hi, The title says it all I guess. Are there any good books out there on the subject of Flash 8 and XML? I found one called XML in Flash from Que publications, but as far as I can tell it is for Flash 5 and was written in 2001. Is that still current? I am assuming not. What books should I read when just getting into this subject, again, using Flash 8 or Flash MX2004? Thanks for your help, Ben ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders NOTICE: This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of this e-mail by you is prohibited. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] recommended books on XML in Flash
Yes - I agree - I would actually recommend people learn to use something like XPATH in Flash - should be able to get enough help from their site and from this list. Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Johannes Nel Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 11:19 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] recommended books on XML in Flash xml capability in flash is so limited that its not worth buying a book on the subject IMO. rather spend your time tracking down a few tuts and learn from those. lastly buy the moock book for the reference. On 1/3/06, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whatever you do, don't buy Flash and XML: A Developers Guide by Dov Jacobsen and Jesse Jacobsen - Addison-Wesley Press - besides being Flash 5, the book sucks. You get the impression these guys are much more into XML than Flash. If they even use Flash at all in their professional lives. Apologies in advance if you're on thist list and one of the authors. There's some good stuff in it, but for someone new to Flash or doing basic stuff, it's not the book for you. But even the advanced stuff lacks depth though. Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Deroo Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 4:29 PM To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: [Flashcoders] recommended books on XML in Flash Hi, The title says it all I guess. Are there any good books out there on the subject of Flash 8 and XML? I found one called XML in Flash from Que publications, but as far as I can tell it is for Flash 5 and was written in 2001. Is that still current? I am assuming not. What books should I read when just getting into this subject, again, using Flash 8 or Flash MX2004? Thanks for your help, Ben ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders NOTICE: This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of this e-mail by you is prohibited. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- j:pn ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] recommended books on XML in Flash
Thanks for that link. It's a good read. Ade -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Sander Sent: 03 January 2006 17:53 To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] recommended books on XML in Flash Indeed: a good book on Xpath and possibly XHTML for flash and browser would be more interesting. Bare in mind that player 8.5 has E4X support, which will change XML usage completely. If you're on Flex, you can start using E4X now, otherwise you have to wait for Flash 9. http://www.brajeshwar.com/archives/2005/10/ e4x_or_ecmascript_for_xml_in_flash/ xml capability in flash is so limited that its not worth buying a book on the subject IMO. rather spend your time tracking down a few tuts and learn from those. lastly buy the moock book for the reference. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] recommended books on XML in Flash
Friends of Ed just released XML for Flash about 2 months ago... Good reference. -radley On Dec 31, 2005, at 1:29 PM, Ben Deroo wrote: Hi, The title says it all I guess. Are there any good books out there on the subject of Flash 8 and XML? I found one called XML in Flash from Que publications, but as far as I can tell it is for Flash 5 and was written in 2001. Is that still current? I am assuming not. What books should I read when just getting into this subject, again, using Flash 8 or Flash MX2004? Thanks for your help, Ben ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- Radley Marx [EMAIL PROTECTED] 310.220.4088 http://www.radleymarx.com -- ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders