RE: [Flashcoders] recommended books on XML in Flash

2006-01-07 Thread Ben Deroo
Thanks Johan,
My hardcopy has not arrived yet, so I will certainly do a little
pre-reading in the PDF.

Ben

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Sent: vrijdag 6 januari 2006 23:33
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Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] recommended books on XML in Flash

Hi,

Just a note that you can download the Learning ActionScript 2.0 for
Macromedia Flash 8 as PDF from MM's site. Although, I myself prefer
to buy a hard copy if it's good.

Link is here:

http://download.macromedia.com/pub/documentation/en/flash/fl8/fl8_learning_a
s2.zip

/Johan

On 1/5/06, Ben Deroo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 thanks for the book suggestions,
 I ended up ordering a couple of books:

 Foundation PHP 5 for Flash
 Foundation ASP.NET for Flash
 Foundation XML for Flash
 Learning ActionScript 2.0 for Macromedia Flash 8
 Using ActionScript 2.0 Components with Macromedia Flash 8

 should keep me busy for a while :-)

 Ben



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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan
Potter
 Sent: dinsdag 3 januari 2006 21:49
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 Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] recommended books on XML in Flash

 Can I third that?  Not to be mean, but I saw them speak at flash forward
 and Joey Lott had to keep answering questions they didn't know.  He
 (Joey) was really nice about it, but it was ugly.

 I would start in the docs and here:
 http://www.actionscript.org/tutorials.shtml
 http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/actscptckbk/index.html?CMP=IL7015
 http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/actscript2/





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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark
 Lapasa
 Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 1:14 PM
 To: Flashcoders mailing list
 Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] recommended books on XML in Flash

 I heartily second this notion. Don't the get Jacobsen and Jacobsen book
 for
 all the same reasons. I just happened to gain a better insight from
 Flash's
 docs than the book.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Jason
 Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 11:14 AM
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 Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] recommended books on XML in Flash


 Whatever you do, don't buy Flash and XML: A Developers Guide by Dov
 Jacobsen and Jesse Jacobsen - Addison-Wesley Press - besides being Flash
 5, the book sucks.  You get the impression these guys are much more into
 XML than Flash.  If they even use Flash at all in their professional
 lives.  Apologies in advance if you're on thist list and one of the
 authors. There's some good stuff in it, but for someone new to Flash or
 doing basic stuff, it's not the book for you.  But even the advanced
 stuff lacks depth though.

 Jason Merrill   |   E-Learning Solutions   |  icfconsulting.com










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 Subject: [Flashcoders] recommended books on XML in Flash
 
 Hi,
 The title says it all I guess.
 Are there any good books out there on the subject of Flash 8 and XML?
 I found one called XML in Flash from Que publications, but as far as
 I can
 tell it is for Flash 5 and was written in 2001.
 
 Is that still current? I am assuming not.
 
 What books should I read when just getting into this subject, again,
 using
 Flash 8 or Flash MX2004?
 
 
 Thanks for your help,
 Ben
 
 
 
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Re: [Flashcoders] recommended books on XML in Flash

2006-01-06 Thread Johan Lopes
Hi,

Just a note that you can download the Learning ActionScript 2.0 for
Macromedia Flash 8 as PDF from MM's site. Although, I myself prefer
to buy a hard copy if it's good.

Link is here:

http://download.macromedia.com/pub/documentation/en/flash/fl8/fl8_learning_as2.zip

/Johan

On 1/5/06, Ben Deroo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 thanks for the book suggestions,
 I ended up ordering a couple of books:

 Foundation PHP 5 for Flash
 Foundation ASP.NET for Flash
 Foundation XML for Flash
 Learning ActionScript 2.0 for Macromedia Flash 8
 Using ActionScript 2.0 Components with Macromedia Flash 8

 should keep me busy for a while :-)

 Ben



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Potter
 Sent: dinsdag 3 januari 2006 21:49
 To: Flashcoders mailing list
 Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] recommended books on XML in Flash

 Can I third that?  Not to be mean, but I saw them speak at flash forward
 and Joey Lott had to keep answering questions they didn't know.  He
 (Joey) was really nice about it, but it was ugly.

 I would start in the docs and here:
 http://www.actionscript.org/tutorials.shtml
 http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/actscptckbk/index.html?CMP=IL7015
 http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/actscript2/





 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark
 Lapasa
 Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 1:14 PM
 To: Flashcoders mailing list
 Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] recommended books on XML in Flash

 I heartily second this notion. Don't the get Jacobsen and Jacobsen book
 for
 all the same reasons. I just happened to gain a better insight from
 Flash's
 docs than the book.

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Jason
 Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 11:14 AM
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 Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] recommended books on XML in Flash


 Whatever you do, don't buy Flash and XML: A Developers Guide by Dov
 Jacobsen and Jesse Jacobsen - Addison-Wesley Press - besides being Flash
 5, the book sucks.  You get the impression these guys are much more into
 XML than Flash.  If they even use Flash at all in their professional
 lives.  Apologies in advance if you're on thist list and one of the
 authors. There's some good stuff in it, but for someone new to Flash or
 doing basic stuff, it's not the book for you.  But even the advanced
 stuff lacks depth though.

 Jason Merrill   |   E-Learning Solutions   |  icfconsulting.com










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 Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 4:29 PM
 To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
 Subject: [Flashcoders] recommended books on XML in Flash
 
 Hi,
 The title says it all I guess.
 Are there any good books out there on the subject of Flash 8 and XML?
 I found one called XML in Flash from Que publications, but as far as
 I can
 tell it is for Flash 5 and was written in 2001.
 
 Is that still current? I am assuming not.
 
 What books should I read when just getting into this subject, again,
 using
 Flash 8 or Flash MX2004?
 
 
 Thanks for your help,
 Ben
 
 
 
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Re: [Flashcoders] recommended books on XML in Flash

2006-01-06 Thread Derek Lords

Thanks, that will surely come in handy at some point!

Regards,

DereK Lords



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Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 22:32:46 +

Hi,

Just a note that you can download the Learning ActionScript 2.0 for
Macromedia Flash 8 as PDF from MM's site. Although, I myself prefer
to buy a hard copy if it's good.

Link is here:

http://download.macromedia.com/pub/documentation/en/flash/fl8/fl8_learning_as2.zip

/Johan

On 1/5/06, Ben Deroo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 thanks for the book suggestions,
 I ended up ordering a couple of books:

 Foundation PHP 5 for Flash
 Foundation ASP.NET for Flash
 Foundation XML for Flash
 Learning ActionScript 2.0 for Macromedia Flash 8
 Using ActionScript 2.0 Components with Macromedia Flash 8

 should keep me busy for a while :-)

 Ben



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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan 
Potter

 Sent: dinsdag 3 januari 2006 21:49
 To: Flashcoders mailing list
 Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] recommended books on XML in Flash

 Can I third that?  Not to be mean, but I saw them speak at flash forward
 and Joey Lott had to keep answering questions they didn't know.  He
 (Joey) was really nice about it, but it was ugly.

 I would start in the docs and here:
 http://www.actionscript.org/tutorials.shtml
 http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/actscptckbk/index.html?CMP=IL7015
 http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/actscript2/





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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark
 Lapasa
 Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 1:14 PM
 To: Flashcoders mailing list
 Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] recommended books on XML in Flash

 I heartily second this notion. Don't the get Jacobsen and Jacobsen book
 for
 all the same reasons. I just happened to gain a better insight from
 Flash's
 docs than the book.

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Jason
 Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 11:14 AM
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 Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] recommended books on XML in Flash


 Whatever you do, don't buy Flash and XML: A Developers Guide by Dov
 Jacobsen and Jesse Jacobsen - Addison-Wesley Press - besides being Flash
 5, the book sucks.  You get the impression these guys are much more into
 XML than Flash.  If they even use Flash at all in their professional
 lives.  Apologies in advance if you're on thist list and one of the
 authors. There's some good stuff in it, but for someone new to Flash or
 doing basic stuff, it's not the book for you.  But even the advanced
 stuff lacks depth though.

 Jason Merrill   |   E-Learning Solutions   |  icfconsulting.com










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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Deroo
 Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 4:29 PM
 To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
 Subject: [Flashcoders] recommended books on XML in Flash
 
 Hi,
 The title says it all I guess.
 Are there any good books out there on the subject of Flash 8 and XML?
 I found one called XML in Flash from Que publications, but as far as
 I can
 tell it is for Flash 5 and was written in 2001.
 
 Is that still current? I am assuming not.
 
 What books should I read when just getting into this subject, again,
 using
 Flash 8 or Flash MX2004?
 
 
 Thanks for your help,
 Ben
 
 
 
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RE: [Flashcoders] recommended books on XML in Flash

2006-01-05 Thread Ben Deroo
thanks for the book suggestions,
I ended up ordering a couple of books:

Foundation PHP 5 for Flash
Foundation ASP.NET for Flash
Foundation XML for Flash
Learning ActionScript 2.0 for Macromedia Flash 8
Using ActionScript 2.0 Components with Macromedia Flash 8

should keep me busy for a while :-)

Ben



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Sent: dinsdag 3 januari 2006 21:49
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Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] recommended books on XML in Flash

Can I third that?  Not to be mean, but I saw them speak at flash forward
and Joey Lott had to keep answering questions they didn't know.  He
(Joey) was really nice about it, but it was ugly.

I would start in the docs and here:
http://www.actionscript.org/tutorials.shtml
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/actscptckbk/index.html?CMP=IL7015
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/actscript2/





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Lapasa
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 1:14 PM
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Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] recommended books on XML in Flash

I heartily second this notion. Don't the get Jacobsen and Jacobsen book
for
all the same reasons. I just happened to gain a better insight from
Flash's
docs than the book.

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Jason
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 11:14 AM
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Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] recommended books on XML in Flash


Whatever you do, don't buy Flash and XML: A Developers Guide by Dov
Jacobsen and Jesse Jacobsen - Addison-Wesley Press - besides being Flash
5, the book sucks.  You get the impression these guys are much more into
XML than Flash.  If they even use Flash at all in their professional
lives.  Apologies in advance if you're on thist list and one of the
authors. There's some good stuff in it, but for someone new to Flash or
doing basic stuff, it's not the book for you.  But even the advanced
stuff lacks depth though.

Jason Merrill   |   E-Learning Solutions   |  icfconsulting.com










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[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Deroo
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 4:29 PM
To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Subject: [Flashcoders] recommended books on XML in Flash

Hi,
The title says it all I guess.
Are there any good books out there on the subject of Flash 8 and XML?
I found one called XML in Flash from Que publications, but as far as
I can
tell it is for Flash 5 and was written in 2001.

Is that still current? I am assuming not.

What books should I read when just getting into this subject, again,
using
Flash 8 or Flash MX2004?


Thanks for your help,
Ben



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RE: [Flashcoders] recommended books on XML in Flash

2006-01-03 Thread Merrill, Jason
Whatever you do, don't buy Flash and XML: A Developers Guide by Dov
Jacobsen and Jesse Jacobsen - Addison-Wesley Press - besides being Flash
5, the book sucks.  You get the impression these guys are much more into
XML than Flash.  If they even use Flash at all in their professional
lives.  Apologies in advance if you're on thist list and one of the
authors. There's some good stuff in it, but for someone new to Flash or
doing basic stuff, it's not the book for you.  But even the advanced
stuff lacks depth though.

Jason Merrill   |   E-Learning Solutions   |  icfconsulting.com










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Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 4:29 PM
To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Subject: [Flashcoders] recommended books on XML in Flash

Hi,
The title says it all I guess.
Are there any good books out there on the subject of Flash 8 and XML?
I found one called XML in Flash from Que publications, but as far as
I can
tell it is for Flash 5 and was written in 2001.

Is that still current? I am assuming not.

What books should I read when just getting into this subject, again,
using
Flash 8 or Flash MX2004?


Thanks for your help,
Ben



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RE: [Flashcoders] recommended books on XML in Flash

2006-01-03 Thread Merrill, Jason
Yes - I agree - I would actually recommend people learn to use something
like XPATH in Flash - should be able to get enough help from their site
and from this list.  

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xml capability in flash is so limited that its not worth buying a book
on the subject IMO. rather spend your time tracking down a few tuts
and learn from those. lastly buy the moock book for the reference.

On 1/3/06, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Whatever you do, don't buy Flash and XML: A Developers Guide by
Dov
 Jacobsen and Jesse Jacobsen - Addison-Wesley Press - besides being
Flash
 5, the book sucks.  You get the impression these guys are much more
into
 XML than Flash.  If they even use Flash at all in their professional
 lives.  Apologies in advance if you're on thist list and one of the
 authors. There's some good stuff in it, but for someone new to Flash
or
 doing basic stuff, it's not the book for you.  But even the advanced
 stuff lacks depth though.

 Jason Merrill   |   E-Learning Solutions   |  icfconsulting.com










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 Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 4:29 PM
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 Subject: [Flashcoders] recommended books on XML in Flash
 
 Hi,
 The title says it all I guess.
 Are there any good books out there on the subject of Flash 8 and
XML?
 I found one called XML in Flash from Que publications, but as
far as
 I can
 tell it is for Flash 5 and was written in 2001.
 
 Is that still current? I am assuming not.
 
 What books should I read when just getting into this subject,
again,
 using
 Flash 8 or Flash MX2004?
 
 
 Thanks for your help,
 Ben
 
 
 
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RE: [Flashcoders] recommended books on XML in Flash

2006-01-03 Thread Adrian Lynch
Thanks for that link. It's a good read.

Ade

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Indeed: a good book on Xpath and possibly XHTML for flash and browser  
would be more interesting.

Bare in mind that player 8.5 has E4X support, which will change XML  
usage completely. If you're on Flex, you can start using E4X now,  
otherwise you have to wait for Flash 9.

http://www.brajeshwar.com/archives/2005/10/ 
e4x_or_ecmascript_for_xml_in_flash/

 xml capability in flash is so limited that its not worth buying a  
 book
 on the subject IMO. rather spend your time tracking down a few tuts
 and learn from those. lastly buy the moock book for the reference.
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Re: [Flashcoders] recommended books on XML in Flash

2005-12-31 Thread Radley Marx



Friends of Ed just released XML for Flash about 2 months ago...  
Good reference.



-radley



On Dec 31, 2005, at 1:29 PM, Ben Deroo wrote:


Hi,
The title says it all I guess.
Are there any good books out there on the subject of Flash 8 and XML?
I found one called XML in Flash from Que publications, but as far  
as I can

tell it is for Flash 5 and was written in 2001.

Is that still current? I am assuming not.

What books should I read when just getting into this subject,  
again, using

Flash 8 or Flash MX2004?


Thanks for your help,
Ben



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