Re: [flexcoders] Cairngorm: Managing Popup Windows
intersting to read this. we are working on a datagrid that has complex data, two text fields, in one column. We used a custom itemEditor with a RTE in it. Nice, right? nope, sucked. Can't quite seem to get the row height to expand contract as needed. So, we went with a modal popup.
DK On 7/27/06, JesterXL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Popups were really valuble in Flex 1.5.Most didn't know about the depth scoping capabilites in Flash Player, nor needed to care.Popups workedgreat for putting stuff above everything and making it modal.
Nowadays, with states and the DisplayList, the only valid reason I can seeis modality.Thus, I'd avoid 'em like the plague unless you can answer yes to thefollowing question: Does the form need to be modal?.
- Original Message -From: Stefan Schmalhaus [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 5:37 AMSubject: [flexcoders] Cairngorm: Managing Popup WindowsI've done some research on this list but haven't found any validinformation on what's considered best pratice in dealing with popup
windows. The few Cairngorm sample apps that are around don't seem touse the TitleWindow component at all.Let's say I have a simple DataGrid populated with some user data. If Iclick on a row in the DataGrid a popup window opens with a form for
editing the user information. The popup window also has two buttonsfor deleting or saving (updating) the user account.I have done stuff like this several times in Flash/AS2 but I've neverused a framework approach so far. Now, if I look at this rather simple
task from a Cairngorm perspective it doesn't seem to be that simpleany more. (But I guess that's because I'm not yet too familiar withCairngorm.) I know how to establish databinding between the dataprovider and {
model.users} and all this basic Cairngorm stuff.But what happens when a row is clicked? I'm not even sure if I'msupposed to treat this event as a single event (selectUser oropenPopup?) or as a chain of two events (selectUser -
openPopup). Since my user information is organized as an array ofvalue objects it's easy to assign the selected user VO tomodel.selectedUser:model.selectedUser = UserVO(userList.selectedItem
);But am I allowed to directly access the ModelLocator from my viewcomponent? Or am I supposed to route this simple action through theCairngorm command chain (Cairngorm Event - Front Controller -
Command Class - ModelLocator)?Next question, what about the popup itself? Can I simply usePopUpManager.createPopUp( this, UserFormView , true)? Or am I supposedto treat this as a Cairngorm Event, too?
I feel in safe Cairngorm terrain again with the updateUser anddeleteUser actions on the buttons. But what about closing the popupwindow? Is this even worth a Cairngorm event?
I guess these questions sound rather stupid to those of you who aremore experienced with frameworks. But at the moment these questionsare obstacles on my way to master Cairngorm (which I will hopefully do
one day). I apologize for my verbose post and my bad English, but Ihope that someone can shed some light on these issues.Stefan
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Re: [flexcoders] Cairngorm: Managing Popup Windows
I stand corrected. A purist would argue that
you should figure out why the row heights aren't working, but I'm with you; if
it works, and gets done quickly, who cares?
- Original Message -
From: Douglas
Knudsen
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Cairngorm: Managing Popup
Windows
intersting to read this. we are working on a datagrid that
has complex data, two text fields, in one column. We used a custom
itemEditor with a RTE in it. Nice, right? nope, sucked. Can't quite
seem to get the row height to expand contract as needed. So, we went with
a modal popup. DK
On 7/27/06, JesterXL
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Popups
were really valuble in Flex 1.5.Most didn't know about the depth
scoping capabilites in Flash Player, nor needed to
care.Popups workedgreat for putting stuff "above everything"
and making it modal. Nowadays, with states and the DisplayList, the
only valid reason I can seeis modality.Thus, I'd avoid 'em like
the plague unless you can answer yes to thefollowing question: "Does the
form need to be modal?". - Original Message -From:
"Stefan Schmalhaus" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To:
flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 5:37 AMSubject: [flexcoders]
Cairngorm: Managing Popup WindowsI've done some research on this
list but haven't found any validinformation on what's considered best
pratice in dealing with popup windows. The few Cairngorm sample apps that
are around don't seem touse the TitleWindow component at all.Let's
say I have a simple DataGrid populated with some user data. If Iclick on a
row in the DataGrid a popup window opens with a form for editing the user
information. The popup window also has two buttonsfor deleting or saving
(updating) the user account.I have done stuff like this several times
in Flash/AS2 but I've neverused a framework approach so far. Now, if I
look at this rather simple task from a Cairngorm perspective it doesn't
seem to be that simpleany more. (But I guess that's because I'm not yet
too familiar withCairngorm.) I know how to establish databinding between
the dataprovider and { model.users} and all this basic Cairngorm
stuff.But what happens when a row is clicked? I'm not even sure if
I'msupposed to treat this event as a single event ("selectUser"
or"openPopup"?) or as a chain of two events ("selectUser" -
"openPopup"). Since my user information is organized as an array
ofvalue objects it's easy to assign the selected user VO
tomodel.selectedUser:model.selectedUser =
UserVO(userList.selectedItem );But am I "allowed" to directly access
the ModelLocator from my viewcomponent? Or am I supposed to route this
simple action through theCairngorm "command chain" (Cairngorm Event -
Front Controller - Command Class - ModelLocator)?Next
question, what about the popup itself? Can I simply
usePopUpManager.createPopUp( this, UserFormView , true)? Or am I
supposedto treat this as a Cairngorm Event, too? I feel in "safe
Cairngorm terrain" again with the "updateUser" and"deleteUser" actions on
the buttons. But what about closing the popupwindow? Is this even worth a
Cairngorm event? I guess these questions sound rather stupid to those
of you who aremore experienced with frameworks. But at the moment these
questionsare obstacles on my way to master Cairngorm (which I will
hopefully doone day). I apologize for my verbose post and my bad English,
but Ihope that someone can shed some light on these
issues.Stefan--Flexcoders
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Re: [flexcoders] Cairngorm: Managing Popup Windows
...hey, wait a minute, I still win! You're
RTE DOES need to be modal. *whew*
http://youbeat2trees.ytmnd.com/
- Original Message -
From: JesterXL
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Cairngorm: Managing Popup
Windows
I stand corrected. A purist would argue that
you should figure out why the row heights aren't working, but I'm with you; if
it works, and gets done quickly, who cares?
- Original Message -
From: Douglas
Knudsen
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Cairngorm: Managing Popup
Windows
intersting to read this. we are working on a datagrid that
has complex data, two text fields, in one column. We used a custom
itemEditor with a RTE in it. Nice, right? nope, sucked. Can't quite
seem to get the row height to expand contract as needed. So, we went with
a modal popup. DK
On 7/27/06, JesterXL
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Popups
were really valuble in Flex 1.5.Most didn't know about the depth
scoping capabilites in Flash Player, nor needed to
care.Popups workedgreat for putting stuff "above everything"
and making it modal. Nowadays, with states and the DisplayList, the
only valid reason I can seeis modality.Thus, I'd avoid 'em like
the plague unless you can answer yes to thefollowing question: "Does the
form need to be modal?". - Original Message -From:
"Stefan Schmalhaus" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To:
flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 5:37 AMSubject: [flexcoders]
Cairngorm: Managing Popup WindowsI've done some research on this
list but haven't found any validinformation on what's considered best
pratice in dealing with popup windows. The few Cairngorm sample apps that
are around don't seem touse the TitleWindow component at all.Let's
say I have a simple DataGrid populated with some user data. If Iclick on a
row in the DataGrid a popup window opens with a form for editing the user
information. The popup window also has two buttonsfor deleting or saving
(updating) the user account.I have done stuff like this several times
in Flash/AS2 but I've neverused a framework approach so far. Now, if I
look at this rather simple task from a Cairngorm perspective it doesn't
seem to be that simpleany more. (But I guess that's because I'm not yet
too familiar withCairngorm.) I know how to establish databinding between
the dataprovider and { model.users} and all this basic Cairngorm
stuff.But what happens when a row is clicked? I'm not even sure if
I'msupposed to treat this event as a single event ("selectUser"
or"openPopup"?) or as a chain of two events ("selectUser" -
"openPopup"). Since my user information is organized as an array
ofvalue objects it's easy to assign the selected user VO
tomodel.selectedUser:model.selectedUser =
UserVO(userList.selectedItem );But am I "allowed" to directly access
the ModelLocator from my viewcomponent? Or am I supposed to route this
simple action through theCairngorm "command chain" (Cairngorm Event -
Front Controller - Command Class - ModelLocator)?Next
question, what about the popup itself? Can I simply
usePopUpManager.createPopUp( this, UserFormView , true)? Or am I
supposedto treat this as a Cairngorm Event, too? I feel in "safe
Cairngorm terrain" again with the "updateUser" and"deleteUser" actions on
the buttons. But what about closing the popupwindow? Is this even worth a
Cairngorm event? I guess these questions sound rather stupid to those
of you who aremore experienced with frameworks. But at the moment these
questionsare obstacles on my way to master Cairngorm (which I will
hopefully doone day). I apologize for my verbose post and my bad English,
but Ihope that someone can shed some light on these
issues.Stefan--Flexcoders
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Re: [flexcoders] Cairngorm: Managing Popup Windows
omg! too funny. That link is better than a beer at MAX, eh? heheDKOn 7/30/06, JesterXL [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
...hey, wait a minute, I still win! You're
RTE DOES need to be modal. *whew*
http://youbeat2trees.ytmnd.com/
- Original Message -
From:
JesterXL
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Cairngorm: Managing Popup
Windows
I stand corrected. A purist would argue that
you should figure out why the row heights aren't working, but I'm with you; if
it works, and gets done quickly, who cares?
- Original Message -
From:
Douglas
Knudsen
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Cairngorm: Managing Popup
Windows
intersting to read this. we are working on a datagrid that
has complex data, two text fields, in one column. We used a custom
itemEditor with a RTE in it. Nice, right? nope, sucked. Can't quite
seem to get the row height to expand contract as needed. So, we went with
a modal popup. DK
On 7/27/06, JesterXL
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Popups
were really valuble in Flex 1.5.Most didn't know about the depth
scoping capabilites in Flash Player, nor needed to
care.Popups workedgreat for putting stuff above everything
and making it modal. Nowadays, with states and the DisplayList, the
only valid reason I can seeis modality.Thus, I'd avoid 'em like
the plague unless you can answer yes to thefollowing question: Does the
form need to be modal?. - Original Message -From:
Stefan Schmalhaus [EMAIL PROTECTED]To:
flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 5:37 AMSubject: [flexcoders]
Cairngorm: Managing Popup WindowsI've done some research on this
list but haven't found any validinformation on what's considered best
pratice in dealing with popup windows. The few Cairngorm sample apps that
are around don't seem touse the TitleWindow component at all.Let's
say I have a simple DataGrid populated with some user data. If Iclick on a
row in the DataGrid a popup window opens with a form for editing the user
information. The popup window also has two buttonsfor deleting or saving
(updating) the user account.I have done stuff like this several times
in Flash/AS2 but I've neverused a framework approach so far. Now, if I
look at this rather simple task from a Cairngorm perspective it doesn't
seem to be that simpleany more. (But I guess that's because I'm not yet
too familiar withCairngorm.) I know how to establish databinding between
the dataprovider and { model.users} and all this basic Cairngorm
stuff.But what happens when a row is clicked? I'm not even sure if
I'msupposed to treat this event as a single event (selectUser
oropenPopup?) or as a chain of two events (selectUser -
openPopup). Since my user information is organized as an array
ofvalue objects it's easy to assign the selected user VO
tomodel.selectedUser:model.selectedUser =
UserVO(userList.selectedItem );But am I allowed to directly access
the ModelLocator from my viewcomponent? Or am I supposed to route this
simple action through theCairngorm command chain (Cairngorm Event -
Front Controller - Command Class - ModelLocator)?Next
question, what about the popup itself? Can I simply
usePopUpManager.createPopUp( this, UserFormView , true)? Or am I
supposedto treat this as a Cairngorm Event, too? I feel in safe
Cairngorm terrain again with the updateUser anddeleteUser actions on
the buttons. But what about closing the popupwindow? Is this even worth a
Cairngorm event? I guess these questions sound rather stupid to those
of you who aremore experienced with frameworks. But at the moment these
questionsare obstacles on my way to master Cairngorm (which I will
hopefully doone day). I apologize for my verbose post and my bad English,
but Ihope that someone can shed some light on these
issues.Stefan--Flexcoders
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[flexcoders] Cairngorm: Managing Popup Windows
I've done some research on this list but haven't found any valid
information on what's considered best pratice in dealing with popup
windows. The few Cairngorm sample apps that are around don't seem to
use the TitleWindow component at all.
Let's say I have a simple DataGrid populated with some user data. If I
click on a row in the DataGrid a popup window opens with a form for
editing the user information. The popup window also has two buttons
for deleting or saving (updating) the user account.
I have done stuff like this several times in Flash/AS2 but I've never
used a framework approach so far. Now, if I look at this rather simple
task from a Cairngorm perspective it doesn't seem to be that simple
any more. (But I guess that's because I'm not yet too familiar with
Cairngorm.) I know how to establish databinding between the data
provider and {model.users} and all this basic Cairngorm stuff.
But what happens when a row is clicked? I'm not even sure if I'm
supposed to treat this event as a single event (selectUser or
openPopup?) or as a chain of two events (selectUser -
openPopup). Since my user information is organized as an array of
value objects it's easy to assign the selected user VO to
model.selectedUser:
model.selectedUser = UserVO(userList.selectedItem);
But am I allowed to directly access the ModelLocator from my view
component? Or am I supposed to route this simple action through the
Cairngorm command chain (Cairngorm Event - Front Controller -
Command Class - ModelLocator)?
Next question, what about the popup itself? Can I simply use
PopUpManager.createPopUp( this, UserFormView , true)? Or am I supposed
to treat this as a Cairngorm Event, too?
I feel in safe Cairngorm terrain again with the updateUser and
deleteUser actions on the buttons. But what about closing the popup
window? Is this even worth a Cairngorm event?
I guess these questions sound rather stupid to those of you who are
more experienced with frameworks. But at the moment these questions
are obstacles on my way to master Cairngorm (which I will hopefully do
one day). I apologize for my verbose post and my bad English, but I
hope that someone can shed some light on these issues.
Stefan
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Re: [flexcoders] Cairngorm: Managing Popup Windows
Popups were really valuble in Flex 1.5. Most didn't know about the depth
scoping capabilites in Flash Player, nor needed to care. Popups worked
great for putting stuff above everything and making it modal.
Nowadays, with states and the DisplayList, the only valid reason I can see
is modality.
Thus, I'd avoid 'em like the plague unless you can answer yes to the
following question: Does the form need to be modal?.
- Original Message -
From: Stefan Schmalhaus [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 5:37 AM
Subject: [flexcoders] Cairngorm: Managing Popup Windows
I've done some research on this list but haven't found any valid
information on what's considered best pratice in dealing with popup
windows. The few Cairngorm sample apps that are around don't seem to
use the TitleWindow component at all.
Let's say I have a simple DataGrid populated with some user data. If I
click on a row in the DataGrid a popup window opens with a form for
editing the user information. The popup window also has two buttons
for deleting or saving (updating) the user account.
I have done stuff like this several times in Flash/AS2 but I've never
used a framework approach so far. Now, if I look at this rather simple
task from a Cairngorm perspective it doesn't seem to be that simple
any more. (But I guess that's because I'm not yet too familiar with
Cairngorm.) I know how to establish databinding between the data
provider and {model.users} and all this basic Cairngorm stuff.
But what happens when a row is clicked? I'm not even sure if I'm
supposed to treat this event as a single event (selectUser or
openPopup?) or as a chain of two events (selectUser -
openPopup). Since my user information is organized as an array of
value objects it's easy to assign the selected user VO to
model.selectedUser:
model.selectedUser = UserVO(userList.selectedItem);
But am I allowed to directly access the ModelLocator from my view
component? Or am I supposed to route this simple action through the
Cairngorm command chain (Cairngorm Event - Front Controller -
Command Class - ModelLocator)?
Next question, what about the popup itself? Can I simply use
PopUpManager.createPopUp( this, UserFormView , true)? Or am I supposed
to treat this as a Cairngorm Event, too?
I feel in safe Cairngorm terrain again with the updateUser and
deleteUser actions on the buttons. But what about closing the popup
window? Is this even worth a Cairngorm event?
I guess these questions sound rather stupid to those of you who are
more experienced with frameworks. But at the moment these questions
are obstacles on my way to master Cairngorm (which I will hopefully do
one day). I apologize for my verbose post and my bad English, but I
hope that someone can shed some light on these issues.
Stefan
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