Re: [flexcoders] Can AIR app get Workstation Credentials?

2008-05-16 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Thursday 15 May 2008, Douglas Knudsen wrote:
 yes, on the wild internet I 100% agree.  But what about a inTRAnet with
 strict IT rules in place? 

I just stepped away to make a cup of tea / go to the loo / sneeze / deal with 
a phone call, and when I came back the system had done it by itself.
With single sign on, you loose any chance of being able to say 'you did this'.

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Re: [flexcoders] Can AIR app get Workstation Credentials?

2008-05-15 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Wednesday 14 May 2008, Geoffrey wrote:
 Converting to an AIR app and I was wondering if I could get the logged
 in user's credentials from the workstation so we don't require a login
 screen.

This is hardly ever a good idea, even in systems where it is possible.
You (almost certainly) have no way to guaranty that the user who logged into 
the machine is the same person now running the application.

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RE: [flexcoders] Can AIR app get Workstation Credentials?

2008-05-15 Thread Kevin Aebig
Isn't this a perfect usage of the EncryptedStore feature? Why not save the
login credentials when the person first logs in, than save them via the
EncryptedStore for the remaining usage.

 

!k

 

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From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Geoffrey
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 3:11 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [flexcoders] Can AIR app get Workstation Credentials?

 

Our flex app requires a login(HTML page) before launching the main
app(the SWF does not handle the logging in). 

Converting to an AIR app and I was wondering if I could get the logged
in user's credentials from the workstation so we don't require a login
screen.

 



RE: [flexcoders] Can AIR app get Workstation Credentials?

2008-05-15 Thread Rick Winscot
Crossing authentication barriers is always a hot topic. and the
EncryptedStore would be a great place to mount a single sign-on solution for
AIR apps. However - to keep this all in perspective - remember that any
authentication method that allows credentials acquired during a handshake to
be 'handled' outside the originating system isn't secure. it's a very bad
idea. 

 

Rick Winscot

 

 

From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Kevin Aebig
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 10:56 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Can AIR app get Workstation Credentials?

 

Isn't this a perfect usage of the EncryptedStore feature? Why not save the
login credentials when the person first logs in, than save them via the
EncryptedStore for the remaining usage.

 

!k

 

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From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Geoffrey
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 3:11 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [flexcoders] Can AIR app get Workstation Credentials?

 

Our flex app requires a login(HTML page) before launching the main
app(the SWF does not handle the logging in). 

Converting to an AIR app and I was wondering if I could get the logged
in user's credentials from the workstation so we don't require a login
screen.

 



RE: [flexcoders] Can AIR app get Workstation Credentials?

2008-05-15 Thread Kevin Aebig
Yeah... with that I completely agree. I was assuming that he came to terms
with the fact that his login *should* be in the application itself instead
of breaking it up into pieces.

 

Cheers,

 

!k

 

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From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Rick Winscot
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 4:01 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Can AIR app get Workstation Credentials?

 

Crossing authentication barriers is always a hot topic. and the
EncryptedStore would be a great place to mount a single sign-on solution for
AIR apps. However - to keep this all in perspective - remember that any
authentication method that allows credentials acquired during a handshake to
be 'handled' outside the originating system isn't secure. it's a very bad
idea. 

 

Rick Winscot

 

 

From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Kevin Aebig
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 10:56 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Can AIR app get Workstation Credentials?

 

Isn't this a perfect usage of the EncryptedStore feature? Why not save the
login credentials when the person first logs in, than save them via the
EncryptedStore for the remaining usage.

 

!k

 

  _  

From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Geoffrey
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 3:11 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [flexcoders] Can AIR app get Workstation Credentials?

 

Our flex app requires a login(HTML page) before launching the main
app(the SWF does not handle the logging in). 

Converting to an AIR app and I was wondering if I could get the logged
in user's credentials from the workstation so we don't require a login
screen.

 



Re: [flexcoders] Can AIR app get Workstation Credentials?

2008-05-15 Thread Douglas Knudsen
yes, on the wild internet I 100% agree.  But what about a inTRAnet with
strict IT rules in place?   The amount of time wasted logging in to the 25+
apps a day some enterprise employees have to use is expensive.

DK

On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 4:00 PM, Rick Winscot [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

Crossing authentication barriers is always a hot topic… and the
 EncryptedStore would be a great place to mount a single sign-on solution for
 AIR apps. However – to keep this all in perspective – remember that any
 authentication method that allows credentials acquired during a handshake to
 be 'handled' outside the originating system isn't secure… it's a very bad
 idea.



 Rick Winscot





 *From:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On
 Behalf Of *Kevin Aebig
 *Sent:* Thursday, May 15, 2008 10:56 AM
 *To:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject:* RE: [flexcoders] Can AIR app get Workstation Credentials?



 Isn't this a perfect usage of the EncryptedStore feature? Why not save the
 login credentials when the person first logs in, than save them via the
 EncryptedStore for the remaining usage.



 !k


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 *From:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On
 Behalf Of *Geoffrey
 *Sent:* Wednesday, May 14, 2008 3:11 PM
 *To:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject:* [flexcoders] Can AIR app get Workstation Credentials?



 Our flex app requires a login(HTML page) before launching the main
 app(the SWF does not handle the logging in).

 Converting to an AIR app and I was wondering if I could get the logged
 in user's credentials from the workstation so we don't require a login
 screen.

   




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[flexcoders] Can AIR app get Workstation Credentials?

2008-05-14 Thread Geoffrey
Our flex app requires a login(HTML page) before launching the main
app(the SWF does not handle the logging in). 

Converting to an AIR app and I was wondering if I could get the logged
in user's credentials from the workstation so we don't require a login
screen.



RE: [flexcoders] Can AIR app get Workstation Credentials?

2008-05-14 Thread Gordon Smith
I don't think is possible. And wouldn't it be a security problem if it
was?

 

Gordon Smith

Adobe Flex SDK Team

 



From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Geoffrey
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 2:11 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [flexcoders] Can AIR app get Workstation Credentials?

 

Our flex app requires a login(HTML page) before launching the main
app(the SWF does not handle the logging in). 

Converting to an AIR app and I was wondering if I could get the logged
in user's credentials from the workstation so we don't require a login
screen.

 



Re: [flexcoders] Can AIR app get Workstation Credentials?

2008-05-14 Thread Douglas Knudsen
not yet.  When I asked about this at the AIR bus tour...summarized 'AIR 1 is
really for consumers.  Air 2 or more may add enterprise type features such
as this.'

DK

On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Geoffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Our flex app requires a login(HTML page) before launching the main
 app(the SWF does not handle the logging in).

 Converting to an AIR app and I was wondering if I could get the logged
 in user's credentials from the workstation so we don't require a login
 screen.

  




-- 
Douglas Knudsen
http://www.cubicleman.com
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