Re: [flexcoders] Flex/ColdFusion use-mappings ignored?
On Friday 02 May 2008, Battershall, Jeff wrote: As I said, I'm willing to be convinced otherwise, but you'd have to make sure that your paths are correct Dev. is the same as live, as far as ColdSpring is concerned (a 'coldspring' mapping) and the generated CFCs use a relative path of '/com/foo/bar/baz' so as long as ... and that CF has write permissions on the directory that you've designated for your proxies, although I suppose some big, fat exeception would be thrown if it didn't. ... we either remember to set the permissions, or understand the exception when creating the bean, it's fine. Another thing I've used at times in Flex/CF integration are pre-defined destinations to specific source locations in remoting-config.xml - how would auto-generated remote proxies work with that? Exactly the same as to any other CFC. That's one of the strengths of autogenerating them - your Flex app now does not care you've got AOP/ColdSpring in the back end, it just sees a CFC. -- Tom Chiverton, convinced yet ? This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at Halliwells LLP, 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by The Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [flexcoders] Flex/ColdFusion use-mappings ignored?
Tom, C'mon - I'm not questioning your decision to take that approach - all I was just trying to help the guy with the off-the-wall behavior he was seeing. What's your take on his problem? Jeff -Original Message- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Chiverton Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 6:14 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex/ColdFusion use-mappings ignored? On Friday 02 May 2008, Battershall, Jeff wrote: As I said, I'm willing to be convinced otherwise, but you'd have to make sure that your paths are correct Dev. is the same as live, as far as ColdSpring is concerned (a 'coldspring' mapping) and the generated CFCs use a relative path of '/com/foo/bar/baz' so as long as ... and that CF has write permissions on the directory that you've designated for your proxies, although I suppose some big, fat exeception would be thrown if it didn't. ... we either remember to set the permissions, or understand the exception when creating the bean, it's fine. Another thing I've used at times in Flex/CF integration are pre-defined destinations to specific source locations in remoting-config.xml - how would auto-generated remote proxies work with that? Exactly the same as to any other CFC. That's one of the strengths of autogenerating them - your Flex app now does not care you've got AOP/ColdSpring in the back end, it just sees a CFC. -- Tom Chiverton, convinced yet ? This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at Halliwells LLP, 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by The Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links
Re: [flexcoders] Flex/ColdFusion use-mappings ignored?
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 9:51 AM, Battershall, Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: C'mon - I'm not questioning your decision to take that approach - all I was just trying to help the guy with the off-the-wall behavior he was seeing. What's your take on his problem? I'm still here, by the way. And still mystified. Although unfortunately, I haven't had the opportunity to do any more testing. There's no reason in the world why the mappings should work on one CF8 installation and not on another, given identical mappings and identical remoting-configs. But that sure seems to be what's going on. I don't expect anyone to do extensive legwork on something this arcane. I'll keep hammering at it myself. Mainly, I'm just looking to see if anyone has either a) seen this sort of behavior before, or b) can quickly see a stupid mistake I'm making. -- Thanks, Tom Tom McNeer MediumCool http://www.mediumcool.com 1735 Johnson Road NE Atlanta, GA 30306 404.589.0560
Re: [flexcoders] Flex/ColdFusion use-mappings ignored?
On Tuesday 06 May 2008, Tom McNeer wrote: I don't expect anyone to do extensive legwork on something this arcane. I'll keep hammering at it myself. I'd take the .xml config files and 'diff' them, might produce a ton of false positives, and you might have to tidy up the XML first, but it might be useful. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to evangelistically maintain integrated e-services on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at Halliwells LLP, 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by The Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[flexcoders] Flex/ColdFusion use-mappings ignored?
Hi, In developing a Flex application locally, I am compiling against a remoting-config.xml which has the use-mappings value set to true. And in the development environment, this works fine. However, when I deploy it to a production server (a VPS), the mappings are ignored. I can only hit the CFCs by following a path from the webroot. While this is a slight pain in itself, it's a real problem with ColdSpring, which is outside the webroot. When Flex calls ColdSpring's remote proxy CFC, there is an error because the beanUtils cannot be found. I have tested this using a Hello World method in a test.cfc. No matter what I do, the use-mappings setting seems to be ignored. Both servers are CF8. Can anyone suggest what I'm doing wrong, please? -- Thanks, Tom Tom McNeer MediumCool http://www.mediumcool.com 1735 Johnson Road NE Atlanta, GA 30306 404.589.0560
RE: [flexcoders] Flex/ColdFusion use-mappings ignored?
Works fine for us. Are you sure the mapping is setup right on production. Regards Dale Fraser http://learncf.com/ http://learncf.com http://flexcf.com/ http://flexcf.com From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom McNeer Sent: Friday, 2 May 2008 9:13 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Flex/ColdFusion use-mappings ignored? Hi, In developing a Flex application locally, I am compiling against a remoting-config.xml which has the use-mappings value set to true. And in the development environment, this works fine. However, when I deploy it to a production server (a VPS), the mappings are ignored. I can only hit the CFCs by following a path from the webroot. While this is a slight pain in itself, it's a real problem with ColdSpring, which is outside the webroot. When Flex calls ColdSpring's remote proxy CFC, there is an error because the beanUtils cannot be found. I have tested this using a Hello World method in a test.cfc. No matter what I do, the use-mappings setting seems to be ignored. Both servers are CF8. Can anyone suggest what I'm doing wrong, please? -- Thanks, Tom Tom McNeer MediumCool http://www.mediumcool.com 1735 Johnson Road NE Atlanta, GA 30306 404.589.0560
Re: [flexcoders] Flex/ColdFusion use-mappings ignored?
Hi Dale, Thanks for the response. On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 9:46 AM, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Works fine for us. As far as I can tell, it works fine for everybody. And it works fine for me in the dev environment. I've never heard of a problem like this, which is why I figure I'm doing something wrong. Are you sure the mapping is setup right on production. Yep, I'm afraid it is. I've run numerous tests, including some very basic ones. An example is: ColdSpring is mapped outside the webroot. I can create a ColdSpring bean factory within an Application.cfc and use it, based on the mapping. But when my Flex app calls a ColdSpring remote proxy CFC (which is *within*the webroot), it finds the proxy CFC properly, but then errors out when attempting to access a CFC under the ColdSpring mapping. I've also done some simple Hello World tests where I placed a CFC based on a mapping and tried to access it from a Flex app. No go. I admit it makes no sense. I'm just hoping someone might have an idea of what to look for. -- Thanks, Tom Tom McNeer MediumCool http://www.mediumcool.com 1735 Johnson Road NE Atlanta, GA 30306 404.589.0560
RE: [flexcoders] Flex/ColdFusion use-mappings ignored?
I admit I haven't played with ColdSpring's capability of auto-generating remote proxies. Personally I have my doubts about this approach as it doesn't seem to support a source-control managed environment, but I'm willing to be convinced otherwise. In any event - it would seem that your having trouble finding your proxies - is that correct? I had thought that ColdSpring is actually creating those in a directory of your choosing. Are you sure you've got a mapping set up to THAT directory? Are you absolutely sure those proxy CFCs are physically where you think they are? Furthernore, I'm not sure why you're placing your remote proxies in the ColdSpring framework directory at all. Is there some reason that particular mapped directory must be used? To me something about what you're trying to do seems inherently problematic. Jeff -Original Message- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom McNeer Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 11:00 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex/ColdFusion use-mappings ignored? Hi Dale, Thanks for the response. On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 9:46 AM, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Works fine for us. As far as I can tell, it works fine for everybody. And it works fine for me in the dev environment. I've never heard of a problem like this, which is why I figure I'm doing something wrong. Are you sure the mapping is setup right on production. Yep, I'm afraid it is. I've run numerous tests, including some very basic ones. An example is: ColdSpring is mapped outside the webroot. I can create a ColdSpring bean factory within an Application.cfc and use it, based on the mapping. But when my Flex app calls a ColdSpring remote proxy CFC (which is within the webroot), it finds the proxy CFC properly, but then errors out when attempting to access a CFC under the ColdSpring mapping. I've also done some simple Hello World tests where I placed a CFC based on a mapping and tried to access it from a Flex app. No go. I admit it makes no sense. I'm just hoping someone might have an idea of what to look for. -- Thanks, Tom Tom McNeer MediumCool http://www.mediumcool.com 1735 Johnson Road NE Atlanta, GA 30306 404.589.0560
Re: [flexcoders] Flex/ColdFusion use-mappings ignored?
On Friday 02 May 2008, Battershall, Jeff wrote: remote proxies. Personally I have my doubts about this approach as it doesn't seem to support a source-control managed environment, We've got the folder for the generated RemoteProxies under source control, but not the files in it. Seems to work well. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to elementarily streamline cutting-edge e-business on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at Halliwells LLP, 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by The Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [flexcoders] Flex/ColdFusion use-mappings ignored?
As I said, I'm willing to be convinced otherwise, but you'd have to make sure that your paths are correct and that CF has write permissions on the directory that you've designated for your proxies, although I suppose some big, fat exeception would be thrown if it didn't. In this case, you'd have to wonder what it is about the two enviroments that are different - because something is. Another thing I've used at times in Flex/CF integration are pre-defined destinations to specific source locations in remoting-config.xml - how would auto-generated remote proxies work with that? -Original Message- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Chiverton Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 11:42 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex/ColdFusion use-mappings ignored? On Friday 02 May 2008, Battershall, Jeff wrote: remote proxies. Personally I have my doubts about this approach as it doesn't seem to support a source-control managed environment, We've got the folder for the generated RemoteProxies under source control, but not the files in it. Seems to work well. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to elementarily streamline cutting-edge e-business on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at Halliwells LLP, 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by The Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links
Re: [flexcoders] Flex/ColdFusion use-mappings ignored?
Jeff, I think you've misunderstood. I'll try to be clearer. On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 11:34 AM, Battershall, Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally I have my doubts about this approach as it doesn't seem to support a source-control managed environment, but I'm willing to be convinced otherwise. Tom's solution seems best. But the files are physically generated, so you could generate them locally and place them under source control, then deploy them with everything else. However, that's not the issue here. In any event - it would seem that your having trouble finding your proxies - is that correct? No. The proxy is found -- it's within the webroot, and the path in the Flex app points to it correctly. The error comes when the proxy is invoked, because in its setup, it invokes one of the core ColdSpring files, and the mapping is not followed. Furthernore, I'm not sure why you're placing your remote proxies in the ColdSpring framework directory at all. As explained above, I'm not. But let's make this simpler: I have a Hello World test Flex app. It calls a test.cfc with a sayHello() method. The webroot of the site is at D:\myWebStuff\myTest. The CFC lies at D:\myWebStuff\myTest\test\test.cfc. I set up a CF mapping called myTest which points directly to the D:\myWebStuff\myTest directory. I can place a .cfm file there and invoke the test.cfc with a path of myTest.test.test. So as far as CF is concerned, the mapping is set correctly. However, if my Flex app sets a RemoteObject call with a source of myTest.test.test, the CFC is not found, even though use-mappings is set to true. If I set the source to simply test.test -- the path from my webroot -- the CFC is found and invoked correctly. Moreover, this problem is only occurring on this Production server. On my local machine, the same .swf, same CFC, same mappings, same remoting-config.xml, respect the mapping and call the CFC correctly. That's what's crazy - the different behavior in the two environments, when the environments seem to be the same. -- Thanks, Tom Tom McNeer MediumCool http://www.mediumcool.com 1735 Johnson Road NE Atlanta, GA 30306 404.589.0560
