[flexcoders] Re: Flex Books - Detailed/Nitty-Gritty

2008-09-27 Thread Marielle Lange
Note that there is a book called 

"AdvancED Flex Application Development: Building Rich Media X"
http://www.friendsofed.com/book.html?isbn=1590598962

I skimmed through at the bookstore, reading a few pages here and there. In my 
opinion, it 
didn't deliver on the promise of the title. It didn't offer much more than what 
can be learned 
by using free on-line resources. 

I ended up buying Flex Cookbook 3 (+1 from me as well).

Another book I would recommend for advanced user is "Flex: training from the 
source". They 
talk you through from start to finish on how to build a complex on-line store 
application. I 
read the Flex 2 version about 8 months ago. It has now been updated to a Flex 3 
version 
(http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Flex-3-Training-Source/dp/0321529189). 






Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex Books - Detailed/Nitty-Gritty

2008-09-26 Thread Paul Andrews
+1
- Original Message - 
From: "nathanpdaniel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 6:31 PM
Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Flex Books - Detailed/Nitty-Gritty


>I highly suggest the Flex 3 Cookbook - not so great for "tutorials"
> but it is "freakin' AWESOME" (my thoughts personally... :D) if you
> have a decent grasp & know what you wanna do.  I use it everyday
>
> Just a thought!
> -Nathan D.
>
>
> --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Chet Haase <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Anyways, I guess coming from Swing there are books (such as Filthy
>> Rich Clients, one author Chet Haase works for Adobe now) which cover
>>
>> Yeah, I heard that rumor as well...
>>
>> lots of neat tricks, details, expert type info. That's what I was
>> sort of wondering about.
>>
>> To be fair, Filthy Rich Clients was written when Java/Swing/2D was
> pretty mature. At the time, the only other Swing books available just
> covered the basics. Flex is newer, so maybe the advanced books or
> books covering specific niche topics about Flex aren't there yet
> because most people are still getting into it. On the other hand,
> it's a very approachable platform, so it doesn't take too much of an
> intro to get you to a place where you can dive in.
>>
>> It is worth checking out some of the blogs and learning sites out
> there; it's not as easy as having it collected in a table of
> contents, but there's some nice deep topics covered out there, both
> for AS3/Flash development in general and for Flex in particular.
>>
>> Chet.
>>
>>
>> --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com<mailto:flexcoders%
> 40yahoogroups.com>, Samuel Colak  wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > This strikes me a bit odd - what do people think Flex is ? It is
>> > simply a tool
>> > for AS3 development - or do people think this is a RAD tool like
> VB
>> > where everything
>> > is just point and click with no code ?
>> >
>> > Craig - unfortunately the actual best book is the Adobe online
>> > tutorials and API
>> > reference - its not terribly difficult to pick up once you have an
>> > understanding or
>> > background in C# or Java. If you are new to the development scene,
>> > then obviously
>> > flex will be rather more "daunting" - but it is worthwhile.
>> >
>> > On Sep 26, 2008, at 12:43 PM, cwicky99 wrote:
>> >
>> > > I'm looking for one or more books to really dive into Flex (and
>> > > perhaps AS3). I know the basics and have been using it for a
> while,
>> > > but I really want to get into the advanced topics and the
> details for
>> > > some serious Flex development. Most of the books I've seen all
> seem
>> > > to have the some Table of Contents covering very basic stuff.
>> > >
>> > > Is there anything out there that covers all the details (you
> know
>> > > sometimes when you read a blog, or watch a videocast you find
> out
>> > > about a little nugget of information you had never heard of)?
>> > >
>> > > Thanks!
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>
>
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[flexcoders] Re: Flex Books - Detailed/Nitty-Gritty

2008-09-26 Thread nathanpdaniel
I highly suggest the Flex 3 Cookbook - not so great for "tutorials" 
but it is "freakin' AWESOME" (my thoughts personally... :D) if you 
have a decent grasp & know what you wanna do.  I use it everyday 

Just a thought!
-Nathan D.


--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Chet Haase <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> Anyways, I guess coming from Swing there are books (such as Filthy
> Rich Clients, one author Chet Haase works for Adobe now) which cover
> 
> Yeah, I heard that rumor as well...
> 
> lots of neat tricks, details, expert type info. That's what I was
> sort of wondering about.
> 
> To be fair, Filthy Rich Clients was written when Java/Swing/2D was 
pretty mature. At the time, the only other Swing books available just 
covered the basics. Flex is newer, so maybe the advanced books or 
books covering specific niche topics about Flex aren't there yet 
because most people are still getting into it. On the other hand, 
it's a very approachable platform, so it doesn't take too much of an 
intro to get you to a place where you can dive in.
> 
> It is worth checking out some of the blogs and learning sites out 
there; it's not as easy as having it collected in a table of 
contents, but there's some nice deep topics covered out there, both 
for AS3/Flash development in general and for Flex in particular.
> 
> Chet.
> 
> 
> --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Samuel Colak  wrote:
> >
> >
> > This strikes me a bit odd - what do people think Flex is ? It is
> > simply a tool
> > for AS3 development - or do people think this is a RAD tool like 
VB
> > where everything
> > is just point and click with no code ?
> >
> > Craig - unfortunately the actual best book is the Adobe online
> > tutorials and API
> > reference - its not terribly difficult to pick up once you have an
> > understanding or
> > background in C# or Java. If you are new to the development scene,
> > then obviously
> > flex will be rather more "daunting" - but it is worthwhile.
> >
> > On Sep 26, 2008, at 12:43 PM, cwicky99 wrote:
> >
> > > I'm looking for one or more books to really dive into Flex (and
> > > perhaps AS3). I know the basics and have been using it for a 
while,
> > > but I really want to get into the advanced topics and the 
details for
> > > some serious Flex development. Most of the books I've seen all 
seem
> > > to have the some Table of Contents covering very basic stuff.
> > >
> > > Is there anything out there that covers all the details (you 
know
> > > sometimes when you read a blog, or watch a videocast you find 
out
> > > about a little nugget of information you had never heard of)?
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>




RE: [flexcoders] Re: Flex Books - Detailed/Nitty-Gritty

2008-09-26 Thread Chet Haase

Anyways, I guess coming from Swing there are books (such as Filthy
Rich Clients, one author Chet Haase works for Adobe now) which cover

Yeah, I heard that rumor as well...

lots of neat tricks, details, expert type info. That's what I was
sort of wondering about.

To be fair, Filthy Rich Clients was written when Java/Swing/2D was pretty 
mature. At the time, the only other Swing books available just covered the 
basics. Flex is newer, so maybe the advanced books or books covering specific 
niche topics about Flex aren't there yet because most people are still getting 
into it. On the other hand, it's a very approachable platform, so it doesn't 
take too much of an intro to get you to a place where you can dive in.

It is worth checking out some of the blogs and learning sites out there; it's 
not as easy as having it collected in a table of contents, but there's some 
nice deep topics covered out there, both for AS3/Flash development in general 
and for Flex in particular.

Chet.


--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Samuel 
Colak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> This strikes me a bit odd - what do people think Flex is ? It is
> simply a tool
> for AS3 development - or do people think this is a RAD tool like VB
> where everything
> is just point and click with no code ?
>
> Craig - unfortunately the actual best book is the Adobe online
> tutorials and API
> reference - its not terribly difficult to pick up once you have an
> understanding or
> background in C# or Java. If you are new to the development scene,
> then obviously
> flex will be rather more "daunting" - but it is worthwhile.
>
> On Sep 26, 2008, at 12:43 PM, cwicky99 wrote:
>
> > I'm looking for one or more books to really dive into Flex (and
> > perhaps AS3). I know the basics and have been using it for a while,
> > but I really want to get into the advanced topics and the details for
> > some serious Flex development. Most of the books I've seen all seem
> > to have the some Table of Contents covering very basic stuff.
> >
> > Is there anything out there that covers all the details (you know
> > sometimes when you read a blog, or watch a videocast you find out
> > about a little nugget of information you had never heard of)?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
>



[flexcoders] Re: Flex Books - Detailed/Nitty-Gritty

2008-09-26 Thread cwicky99
Thanks (i think) for the feedback.  I realize Flex is more than  RAD
tool, in fact I have hardly used the GUI builder.  My background was
Java/Swing -> python -> C# -> Flex, based on the projects I was
working on.

Anyways, I guess coming from Swing there are books (such as Filthy
Rich Clients, one author Chet Haase works for Adobe now) which cover
lots of neat tricks, details, expert type info.  That's what I was
sort of wondering about.

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Samuel Colak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> This strikes me a bit odd - what do people think Flex is ? It is  
> simply a tool
> for AS3 development - or do people think this is a RAD tool like VB  
> where everything
> is just point and click with no code ?
> 
> Craig - unfortunately the actual best book is the Adobe online  
> tutorials and API
> reference - its not terribly difficult to pick up once you have an  
> understanding or
> background in C# or Java. If you are new to the development scene,  
> then obviously
> flex will be rather more "daunting" - but it is worthwhile.
> 
> On Sep 26, 2008, at 12:43 PM, cwicky99 wrote:
> 
> > I'm looking for one or more books to really dive into Flex (and
> > perhaps AS3). I know the basics and have been using it for a while,
> > but I really want to get into the advanced topics and the details for
> > some serious Flex development. Most of the books I've seen all seem
> > to have the some Table of Contents covering very basic stuff.
> >
> > Is there anything out there that covers all the details (you know
> > sometimes when you read a blog, or watch a videocast you find out
> > about a little nugget of information you had never heard of)?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
>