[flexcoders] Re: Large application strategy - Flex or Flash?
No current requirement for Flex components That seems like a relevant factor in the decision.. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Mike Chabot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: None of the factors you mention seem highly relevant to making the decision. Are the developers already comfortable using Flash? Flex? Do the developers have design backgrounds or programming backgrounds? If you have designers that already know Flash, do the developers need to do anything other than embed the SWF files into HTML? Is this a Web application deployed to an environment with a user-base that you know will be able to meet the higher requirements demanded by Flex, or is this more like an Internet application? Is using neither technology an option? What is driving the need for either Flash or Flex that isn't provided by a technology like ASP.NET or Ajax? -Mike Chabot On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 8:22 PM, bick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wanted to get some opinions on whether to use Flex or Flash on a large scale site. Some details about the site: Very modular Some timeline based swfs provided by designers that need to be loaded Uses webservices Multiple remote developers Intending to use automated builds (thinking Maven) ASDocs No current requirement for Flex components Thoughts?
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Large application strategy - Flex or Flash?
No current requirement for Flex components That seems like a relevant factor in the decision.. I'd argue that the lack of a need for any Flex controls is an argument for not using the Flex framework, but not necessarily for not using Flex Builder as the development tool. Even if you are doing an AS3 only Flash project, it might still make sense to use Flex Builder (or Flash Develop or FDT, I don't have experience with those). The fact that Eclipse has plugins that support SVN and CVS for version control, Mylyn for trac integration, supports ant and maven, supports code hinting, etc etc are all reasons to use FB as the dev tool. So assuming you can put your timeline-needing Flash devs in a room and give them Flash authoring and your devs can just get SWFs they don't have to edit, then it sounds like Flex Builder is probably the way to go. But if you need to tweak timeline animations you'll need to crank open Flash Authoring. But crank it up, do your work, and get the hell out so you can get back to a decent dev environment with code hinting and all the good stuff. Doug
[flexcoders] Re: Large application strategy - Flex or Flash?
From what I've seen FDT looks like a nice tool. Although no IDE for Mac means I haven't used it in anger. I think an interesting Flex 4 feature would be, to be able to use Flex components within Flash (outside of a Flex project). --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Doug McCune [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No current requirement for Flex components That seems like a relevant factor in the decision.. I'd argue that the lack of a need for any Flex controls is an argument for not using the Flex framework, but not necessarily for not using Flex Builder as the development tool. Even if you are doing an AS3 only Flash project, it might still make sense to use Flex Builder (or Flash Develop or FDT, I don't have experience with those). The fact that Eclipse has plugins that support SVN and CVS for version control, Mylyn for trac integration, supports ant and maven, supports code hinting, etc etc are all reasons to use FB as the dev tool. So assuming you can put your timeline-needing Flash devs in a room and give them Flash authoring and your devs can just get SWFs they don't have to edit, then it sounds like Flex Builder is probably the way to go. But if you need to tweak timeline animations you'll need to crank open Flash Authoring. But crank it up, do your work, and get the hell out so you can get back to a decent dev environment with code hinting and all the good stuff. Doug
[flexcoders] Re: Large application strategy - Flex or Flash?
Sorry it was Flash Develop I had used.. Not FDT. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Bjorn Schultheiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From what I've seen FDT looks like a nice tool. Although no IDE for Mac means I haven't used it in anger. I think an interesting Flex 4 feature would be, to be able to use Flex components within Flash (outside of a Flex project). --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Doug McCune doug@ wrote: No current requirement for Flex components That seems like a relevant factor in the decision.. I'd argue that the lack of a need for any Flex controls is an argument for not using the Flex framework, but not necessarily for not using Flex Builder as the development tool. Even if you are doing an AS3 only Flash project, it might still make sense to use Flex Builder (or Flash Develop or FDT, I don't have experience with those). The fact that Eclipse has plugins that support SVN and CVS for version control, Mylyn for trac integration, supports ant and maven, supports code hinting, etc etc are all reasons to use FB as the dev tool. So assuming you can put your timeline-needing Flash devs in a room and give them Flash authoring and your devs can just get SWFs they don't have to edit, then it sounds like Flex Builder is probably the way to go. But if you need to tweak timeline animations you'll need to crank open Flash Authoring. But crank it up, do your work, and get the hell out so you can get back to a decent dev environment with code hinting and all the good stuff. Doug
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Large application strategy - Flex or Flash?
I think that the no current requirement detail would need further explanation and shouldn't be interpreted exactly as it is written. The use of Flex is almost never a requirement since you can generally accomplish the same result using other technologies, yet people still use Flex because of advantages that can be considered separately from business requirements. For example, I think the Flex datagrid offers advantages over an HTML table in some scenarios, even though the requirement of showing tabular data could be met at its most basic level with HTML. -Mike Chabot On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 2:57 AM, Bjorn Schultheiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No current requirement for Flex components That seems like a relevant factor in the decision..
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Large application strategy - Flex or Flash?
Bjorn Schultheiss a écrit : Sorry it was Flash Develop I had used.. Not FDT. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com, Bjorn Schultheiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From what I've seen FDT looks like a nice tool. Although no IDE for Mac means I haven't used it in anger. I think an interesting Flex 4 feature would be, to be able to use Flex components within Flash (outside of a Flex project). --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com, Doug McCune doug@ wrote: No current requirement for Flex components That seems like a relevant factor in the decision.. I'd argue that the lack of a need for any Flex controls is an argument for not using the Flex framework, but not necessarily for not using Flex Builder as the development tool. Even if you are doing an AS3 only Flash project, it might still make sense to use Flex Builder (or Flash Develop or FDT, I don't have experience with those). The fact that Eclipse has plugins that support SVN and CVS for version control, Mylyn for trac integration, supports ant and maven, supports code hinting, etc etc are all reasons to use FB as the dev tool. So assuming you can put your timeline-needing Flash devs in a room and give them Flash authoring and your devs can just get SWFs they don't have to edit, then it sounds like Flex Builder is probably the way to go. But if you need to tweak timeline animations you'll need to crank open Flash Authoring. But crank it up, do your work, and get the hell out so you can get back to a decent dev environment with code hinting and all the good stuff. Doug I agree with Dough. Eclipse and Flex Bulider will provide efficiency in development. In addition, understanding the component model of Flex and using Flash components with mxml could be very powerfull. Best regards Hervé
