Certainly deep financial pockets help when it comes to promoting and
evangelizing a technology. What Adobe has consistently failed to do is
tapping into its user base to get some help with marketing and
evangelism. Lots of people are excited about Flex/AIR. Those who can
and is willing to talk about it need help from Adobe. I have yet to
see any signs from Adobe that they get it. They are spending lots of
on various marketing programs like onAIR tour, MAX, etc, which is
great. However, they are falling short on many others fronts. If
you're curious, try to contact them to find out the requirements for
doing a local FlexCamp, you'll know what I mean.
One other thing that Adobe needs to learn is how to guard their most
important asset - developers. I have seen Flex User Groups sites
cheering about the fact that Microsoft would host their next monthly
meeting to talk about Silverlight. I have yet to see a single MS .NET
user group to have a meeting dedicated to Flex (believe me I tried
really hard to setup a talk on Flex to .NET connectivity).
Cheers,
Mark
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Merrill, Jason
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So Microsoft is presenting at Universities, and Adobe isn't. Well,
unfortunately for Adobe, Microsoft has huge financial pockets, which is
the greatest threat to the Flash platform in my opinion. I'm not saying
Adobe can't promote Flash/Flex at universities, but it's certainly true
they don't have anywhere near the amount of resources Microsoft has to
promote products. I think Adobe will have to use some creative
marketing strategies to better compete with the massive Silverlight push
Microsoft is developing.
Jason Merrill
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From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of krishna Raj
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 4:18 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Where is adobe? Come to universities!
There is lot of scope for Adobe Technologies in Universities
towards higher education worldwide.
This idea can further their technologies for their(Universities)
course offerings to the great extent.
I wish, it comes true.
krishna Raj
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Rick Winscot
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At this pace we won't (generally) see RIA technologies
in course offerings for 4 - 5 years at least. It would be awesome to see
higher education quicken their pace and open the door to innovators like
Adobe - but the fact is... that in its current state, higher education,
is ill suited to embrace them. To be frank... I don't blame Adobe for
not wanting to participate in the higher education debacle.
Rick Winscot
From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of yigit boyar
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 5:52 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [flexcoders] Where is adobe? Come to
universities!
Yesterday, Microsoft was in my department to present
silverlightajax technologies.
Although silverlight is currently a bullshit compared to
flex, and in my department (METU computer engineering)
many people use linux; there were quite many people
attending to the seminar.
Tomorrow, I'll do give a seminar about AIR
technology,which will be hosted by METU Computer Club.
who am I? Just a 3rd year computer
engineering(~=science) student.
So i ask to adobe; microsoft comes to our lessons for
their primitive technology, but adobe does nothing for flex the great?
why?
you do europe tour, it's great but you better do some
more local event (no need to bring your developers, just use
your local partners).
just a suggestion to adobe guys, maybe because of
feeling bad with microsoft's integration