[flexcoders] Re: Where is adobe? Come to universities!

2008-04-03 Thread Mark Piller
Certainly deep financial pockets help when it comes to promoting and
evangelizing a technology. What Adobe has consistently failed to do is
tapping into its user base to get some help with marketing and
evangelism. Lots of people are excited about Flex/AIR. Those who can
and is willing to talk about it need help from Adobe. I have yet to
see any signs from Adobe that they get it. They are spending lots of
 on various marketing programs like onAIR tour, MAX, etc, which is
great. However, they are falling short on many others fronts. If
you're curious, try to contact them to find out the requirements for
doing a local FlexCamp, you'll know what I mean.

One other thing that Adobe needs to learn is how to guard their most
important asset - developers. I have seen Flex User Groups sites
cheering about the fact that Microsoft would host their next monthly
meeting to talk about Silverlight. I have yet to see a single MS .NET
user group to have a meeting dedicated to Flex (believe me I tried
really hard to setup a talk on Flex to .NET connectivity).

Cheers,
Mark

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 So Microsoft is presenting at Universities, and Adobe isn't.  Well,
 unfortunately for Adobe, Microsoft has huge financial pockets, which is
 the greatest threat to the Flash platform in my opinion.  I'm not saying
 Adobe can't promote Flash/Flex at universities, but it's certainly true
 they don't have anywhere near the amount of resources Microsoft has to
 promote products.  I think Adobe will have to use some creative
 marketing strategies to better compete with the massive Silverlight push
 Microsoft is developing.
  
 
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   From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of krishna Raj
   Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 4:18 AM
   To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Where is adobe? Come to universities!
   
   
 
   There is lot of scope for Adobe Technologies in Universities
 towards higher education worldwide.
   This idea can further their technologies for their(Universities)
 course offerings to the great extent.  
   I wish, it comes true.
   krishna Raj
   
   
   
   
   On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Rick Winscot
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
   
 
   
 
   At this pace we won't (generally) see RIA technologies
 in course offerings for 4 - 5 years at least. It would be awesome to see
 higher education quicken their pace and open the door to innovators like
 Adobe - but the fact is... that in its current state, higher education,
 is ill suited to embrace them. To be frank... I don't blame Adobe for
 not wanting to participate in the higher education debacle.
 

 
   Rick Winscot
 

 

 
   From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com  [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of yigit boyar
   Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 5:52 PM
   To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
   Subject: [flexcoders] Where is adobe? Come to
 universities!
 

 
   Yesterday, Microsoft was in my department to present
 silverlightajax technologies. 
   Although silverlight is currently a bullshit compared to
 flex, and in my department (METU computer engineering)
   many people use linux; there were quite many people
 attending to the seminar.
   
   Tomorrow, I'll do give a seminar about AIR
 technology,which will be hosted by METU Computer Club.
who am I? Just a 3rd year computer
 engineering(~=science) student.
   
   So i ask to adobe; microsoft comes to our lessons for
 their primitive technology, but adobe does nothing for flex the great?
 why?
   you do europe tour, it's great but you better do some
 more local event (no need to bring your developers, just use
   your local partners).
   
   just a suggestion to adobe guys, maybe because of
 feeling bad with microsoft's integration

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Where is adobe? Come to universities!

2008-04-03 Thread João Fernandes
Mark,

regarding the FlexCamp, I can tell you that they will do what they can. 
We setup in February our FlexCamp here in Portugal and it was a very 
successful event and Adobe ( Portugal and International ) helped a lot.
As you can imagine, Portugal might not be the most interesting market 
and no less, they came here.

-- 

João Fernandes

http://www.onflexwithcf.org
http://www.riapt.org
Portugal Adobe User Group (http://aug.riapt.org)