Re: CF/Flex wizards (was Re: [flexcoders] Re: any disadvantages to using FDS + CF vs. FDS + Java?)
Speaking of these wizards, how can we modify the templates they are generated from? How difficult would it be to make them scriptable or add the ability for them to act on mulitple tables? DK On 7/5/06, Douglas Knudsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/5/06, Tom Jordahl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Tom Bray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since we have more CF developers in-house, we're wondering if there are any disadvantages or limitations of using CF with FDS instead of using Java. Just wanted to jump in here and say that using ColdFusion does have some advantages over Java. For one thing, not having to write Java code to do JDBC manipulation of your data is a big one. We believe that for RAD development, CFML (especially given the Flex Builder wizards we provide) will get you up and running much quicker. Speaking of these wizards, how can we modify the templates they are generated from? How difficult would it be to make them scriptable or add the ability for them to act on mulitple tables? DK A CF solution should scale very well, as you are offloading the processing of the DB operations on to the CF server. You do pay a small price in moving the result sets from CF to Flex over a network if CF and Flex are on different machines. We fully support the change object model of writing Assemblers as ColdFusion Components. The one thing we do not support writing in CFML is the 'server push' API which allows a Java application running in the Flex web application to 'push' changes to the data in to the Flex managed result sets. We are currently evaluating supporting this in a future release. I hope this (biased) information helps. -- Tom Jordahl Adobe CF Team -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Douglas Knudsen http://www.cubicleman.com this is my signature, like it? -- Douglas Knudsen http://www.cubicleman.com this is my signature, like it? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/TISQkA/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/nhFolB/TM ~- -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[flexcoders] Re: any disadvantages to using FDS + CF vs. FDS + Java?
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Tom Bray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since we have more CF developers in-house, we're wondering if there are any disadvantages or limitations of using CF with FDS instead of using Java. Just wanted to jump in here and say that using ColdFusion does have some advantages over Java. For one thing, not having to write Java code to do JDBC manipulation of your data is a big one. We believe that for RAD development, CFML (especially given the Flex Builder wizards we provide) will get you up and running much quicker. A CF solution should scale very well, as you are offloading the processing of the DB operations on to the CF server. You do pay a small price in moving the result sets from CF to Flex over a network if CF and Flex are on different machines. We fully support the change object model of writing Assemblers as ColdFusion Components. The one thing we do not support writing in CFML is the 'server push' API which allows a Java application running in the Flex web application to 'push' changes to the data in to the Flex managed result sets. We are currently evaluating supporting this in a future release. I hope this (biased) information helps. -- Tom Jordahl Adobe CF Team Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/XISQkA/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/nhFolB/TM ~- -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Re: any disadvantages to using FDS + CF vs. FDS + Java?
Thanks, Tom. The primary responsibility of our server-side logic is to push data out to clients (updating user lists, sending validated chat messages, etc.), so it sounds like that's a deal-breaker for CF. :(-Tom On 7/5/06, Tom Jordahl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Tom Bray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since we have more CF developers in-house, we're wondering if there are any disadvantages or limitations of using CF with FDS instead of using Java. Just wanted to jump in here and say that using ColdFusion does have some advantages over Java. For one thing, not having to write Java code to do JDBC manipulation of your data is a big one. We believe that for RAD development, CFML (especially given the Flex Builder wizards we provide) will get you up and running much quicker. A CF solution should scale very well, as you are offloading the processing of the DB operations on to the CF server. You do pay a small price in moving the result sets from CF to Flex over a network if CF and Flex are on different machines. We fully support the change object model of writing Assemblers as ColdFusion Components. The one thing we do not support writing in CFML is the 'server push' API which allows a Java application running in the Flex web application to 'push' changes to the data in to the Flex managed result sets. We are currently evaluating supporting this in a future release. I hope this (biased) information helps. -- Tom Jordahl Adobe CF Team __._,_.___ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
CF/Flex wizards (was Re: [flexcoders] Re: any disadvantages to using FDS + CF vs. FDS + Java?)
On 7/5/06, Tom Jordahl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Tom Bray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since we have more CF developers in-house, we're wondering if there are any disadvantages or limitations of using CF with FDS instead of using Java. Just wanted to jump in here and say that using ColdFusion does have some advantages over Java. For one thing, not having to write Java code to do JDBC manipulation of your data is a big one. We believe that for RAD development, CFML (especially given the Flex Builder wizards we provide) will get you up and running much quicker. Speaking of these wizards, how can we modify the templates they are generated from? How difficult would it be to make them scriptable or add the ability for them to act on mulitple tables? DK A CF solution should scale very well, as you are offloading the processing of the DB operations on to the CF server. You do pay a small price in moving the result sets from CF to Flex over a network if CF and Flex are on different machines. We fully support the change object model of writing Assemblers as ColdFusion Components. The one thing we do not support writing in CFML is the 'server push' API which allows a Java application running in the Flex web application to 'push' changes to the data in to the Flex managed result sets. We are currently evaluating supporting this in a future release. I hope this (biased) information helps. -- Tom Jordahl Adobe CF Team -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Douglas Knudsen http://www.cubicleman.com this is my signature, like it? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/TISQkA/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/nhFolB/TM ~- -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[flexcoders] Re: any disadvantages to using FDS + CF vs. FDS + Java?
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Tom Bray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Tom. The primary responsibility of our server-side logic is to push data out to clients (updating user lists, sending validated chat messages, etc.), so it sounds like that's a deal-breaker for CF. :( Well, so let me clear. If you are talking about the *Data Management* part of FDS that is fine. We just don't (yet) support the ability for CFML code to call up to Flex, which is obviously a bit simpler when you are part of the same VM/web app. We do fully support Flex calling down to us to manage the Data Set. But if you are talking about the *Messaging* feature of FDS, then ColdFusion would most definitely meet your needs using the Flex Messaging Gateway. You can publish and subscribe to a Flex destination. -- Tom Jordahl Adobe -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
