Re: [flexcoders] WITH construction ?
You just illustrated why it's reducing readability. You have to read
a lot more code to understand what is happening in the with
statement. In your example you show x = 20, but where is x? is it
on the object or is it in the function scope or is it in the parent
object scope?
This is why I think with should not be used. In javascript it
improved performance slightly in some unique cases, but I don't think
it's helpful in AS3. The only benefit I see for it is reduced
typing, but that's just lazy in my opinion. Please type it out, it
will help you out in the long run. I think the only time you should
not state the scope of an assignment like that (ie x=20) is when the
scope is local like in a function. Please use this whenever possible
as well, even when you are the only one looking at your code.
Oh and just because other languages have it does not make it a good
idea. Lingo uses && for string concatenation, is that a good idea?
Paul
On Nov 6, 2007, at 2:45 AM, Samuel Colak wrote:
Paul,
apologies however languages such as C# include such a directive
already - its not "reducing" readability at all - in reality I'm
wondering if this is remotely possible in Flex. The issue I'm
wondering about is that if you wrote the code below
var object:Object = new Object();
With (object) {
x = 20;
trace("trap the app in debug here");
}
and placed a breakpoint on the trace line - you'll note several
things - 1) 'x' is defined as a variable of type Number (no var
declaration which I didn't think possible) and outside of the scope
of 'object' 2) object does not have a variable 'x'.
How is it shown that 'x' is part of 'object' rather than an
external variable ?
In C#, the With statement is enacted in that properties of a object
declared in the With construct are referenced in the following manner.
With (object) {
.x = 20;
}
Note the '.' !
Thanks & Regards
Samuel
On Nov 5, 2007, at 4:13 PM, Paul Decoursey wrote:
I think that with should be avoided, it greatly reduces the
readability of your code and makes maintaining it more difficult.
On Nov 5, 2007, at 8:53 AM, Brent Dearth wrote:
var o:Object = {a: 20, b: "twenty"};
trace (o.a + " " + o.b);
with (o) {
a = 40;
b = "forty";
}
trace (o.a + " " + o.b);
On 11/5/07, Samuel Colak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Not quite what i mean - not to call the function but referring to
properties inside the object - your demo implies a static object
"Math" with functions cos and sin.
inside the "object" i have a getter and setter for the property "x".
Regards
Samuel
On Nov 5, 2007, at 10:56 AM, Edward Yakop wrote:
I'm not sure what u meant, but [with] statement does exists.
For example, taken from the flex doc:
var a:Number, x:Number, y:Number;
with (Math) {
a = PI * pow(r, 2);
x = r * cos(PI);
y = r * sin(PI / 2);
}
where pow, cos and sin are static method of Math.
Regards,
Edward Yakop
On Nov 5, 2007 10:45 AM, Samuel Colak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Guys,
>
> am i going nuts and that there is no with construction for
objects
> (such like)
>
> object.x = 20 (x is a number)
>
> or
>
> WITH (object) {
> .x = 20
> }
>
> Just wondering
>
> Samuel
>
>
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Re: [flexcoders] WITH construction ?
Paul,
apologies however languages such as C# include such a directive
already - its not "reducing" readability at all - in reality I'm
wondering if this is remotely possible in Flex. The issue I'm
wondering about is that if you wrote the code below
var object:Object = new Object();
With (object) {
x = 20;
trace("trap the app in debug here");
}
and placed a breakpoint on the trace line - you'll note several things
- 1) 'x' is defined as a variable of type Number (no var declaration
which I didn't think possible) and outside of the scope of 'object' 2)
object does not have a variable 'x'.
How is it shown that 'x' is part of 'object' rather than an external
variable ?
In C#, the With statement is enacted in that properties of a object
declared in the With construct are referenced in the following manner.
With (object) {
.x = 20;
}
Note the '.' !
Thanks & Regards
Samuel
On Nov 5, 2007, at 4:13 PM, Paul Decoursey wrote:
I think that with should be avoided, it greatly reduces the
readability of your code and makes maintaining it more difficult.
On Nov 5, 2007, at 8:53 AM, Brent Dearth wrote:
var o:Object = {a: 20, b: "twenty"};
trace (o.a + " " + o.b);
with (o) {
a = 40;
b = "forty";
}
trace (o.a + " " + o.b);
On 11/5/07, Samuel Colak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Not quite what i mean - not to call the function but referring to
properties inside the object - your demo implies a static object
"Math" with functions cos and sin.
inside the "object" i have a getter and setter for the property "x".
Regards
Samuel
On Nov 5, 2007, at 10:56 AM, Edward Yakop wrote:
I'm not sure what u meant, but [with] statement does exists.
For example, taken from the flex doc:
var a:Number, x:Number, y:Number;
with (Math) {
a = PI * pow(r, 2);
x = r * cos(PI);
y = r * sin(PI / 2);
}
where pow, cos and sin are static method of Math.
Regards,
Edward Yakop
On Nov 5, 2007 10:45 AM, Samuel Colak <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
wrote:
> Guys,
>
> am i going nuts and that there is no with construction for objects
> (such like)
>
> object.x = 20 (x is a number)
>
> or
>
> WITH (object) {
> .x = 20
> }
>
> Just wondering
>
> Samuel
>
>
> --
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Re: [flexcoders] WITH construction ?
- Original Message -
From: Samuel Colak
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] WITH construction ?
Not quite what i mean - not to call the function but referring to properties
inside the object - your demo implies a static object "Math" with functions cos
and sin.
inside the "object" i have a getter and setter for the property "x".
Regards
Samuel
function test():void {
var o:Object = new Object();
o.k = "hello";
trace("k="+o.k);
with (o) {
trace("k="+k);
k="goodbye";
trace("k="+k);
}
trace("k="+o.k);
}
Result:
k=hello
k=hello
k=goodbye
k=goodbye
How hard was that to try out?
Paul
Re: [flexcoders] WITH construction ?
I think that with should be avoided, it greatly reduces the
readability of your code and makes maintaining it more difficult.
On Nov 5, 2007, at 8:53 AM, Brent Dearth wrote:
var o:Object = {a: 20, b: "twenty"};
trace (o.a + " " + o.b);
with (o) {
a = 40;
b = "forty";
}
trace (o.a + " " + o.b);
On 11/5/07, Samuel Colak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Not quite what i mean - not to call the function but referring to
properties inside the object - your demo implies a static object
"Math" with functions cos and sin.
inside the "object" i have a getter and setter for the property "x".
Regards
Samuel
On Nov 5, 2007, at 10:56 AM, Edward Yakop wrote:
I'm not sure what u meant, but [with] statement does exists.
For example, taken from the flex doc:
var a:Number, x:Number, y:Number;
with (Math) {
a = PI * pow(r, 2);
x = r * cos(PI);
y = r * sin(PI / 2);
}
where pow, cos and sin are static method of Math.
Regards,
Edward Yakop
On Nov 5, 2007 10:45 AM, Samuel Colak <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
wrote:
> Guys,
>
> am i going nuts and that there is no with construction for objects
> (such like)
>
> object.x = 20 (x is a number)
>
> or
>
> WITH (object) {
> .x = 20
> }
>
> Just wondering
>
> Samuel
>
>
> --
> Flexcoders Mailing List
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>
>
>
>
Re: [flexcoders] WITH construction ?
var o:Object = {a: 20, b: "twenty"};
trace (o.a + " " + o.b);
with (o) {
a = 40;
b = "forty";
}
trace (o.a + " " + o.b);
On 11/5/07, Samuel Colak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Not quite what i mean - not to call the function but referring to
> properties inside the object - your demo implies a static object "Math" with
> functions cos and sin.
>
> inside the "object" i have a getter and setter for the property "x".
>
> Regards
> Samuel
>
> On Nov 5, 2007, at 10:56 AM, Edward Yakop wrote:
>
> I'm not sure what u meant, but [with] statement does exists.
> For example, taken from the flex doc:
>
> var a:Number, x:Number, y:Number;
>
> with (Math) {
> a = PI * pow(r, 2);
> x = r * cos(PI);
> y = r * sin(PI / 2);
> }
>
> where pow, cos and sin are static method of Math.
>
> Regards,
> Edward Yakop
>
> On Nov 5, 2007 10:45 AM, Samuel Colak <[EMAIL
> PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Guys,
> >
> > am i going nuts and that there is no with construction for objects
> > (such like)
> >
> > object.x = 20 (x is a number)
> >
> > or
> >
> > WITH (object) {
> > .x = 20
> > }
> >
> > Just wondering
> >
> > Samuel
> >
> >
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>
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Re: [flexcoders] WITH construction ?
It is the same syntax. Here's the more complete solution that I hope illustrate with to call property. http://www.adobe.com/2006/mxml"; layout="absolute" creationComplete="init()"> Regards, Edward Yakop
Re: [flexcoders] WITH construction ?
Not quite what i mean - not to call the function but referring to
properties inside the object - your demo implies a static object
"Math" with functions cos and sin.
inside the "object" i have a getter and setter for the property "x".
Regards
Samuel
On Nov 5, 2007, at 10:56 AM, Edward Yakop wrote:
I'm not sure what u meant, but [with] statement does exists.
For example, taken from the flex doc:
var a:Number, x:Number, y:Number;
with (Math) {
a = PI * pow(r, 2);
x = r * cos(PI);
y = r * sin(PI / 2);
}
where pow, cos and sin are static method of Math.
Regards,
Edward Yakop
On Nov 5, 2007 10:45 AM, Samuel Colak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Guys,
>
> am i going nuts and that there is no with construction for objects
> (such like)
>
> object.x = 20 (x is a number)
>
> or
>
> WITH (object) {
> .x = 20
> }
>
> Just wondering
>
> Samuel
>
>
> --
> Flexcoders Mailing List
> FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/
flexcodersFAQ.txt
> Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
Re: [flexcoders] WITH construction ?
I'm not sure what u meant, but [with] statement does exists.
For example, taken from the flex doc:
var a:Number, x:Number, y:Number;
with (Math) {
a = PI * pow(r, 2);
x = r * cos(PI);
y = r * sin(PI / 2);
}
where pow, cos and sin are static method of Math.
Regards,
Edward Yakop
On Nov 5, 2007 10:45 AM, Samuel Colak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Guys,
>
> am i going nuts and that there is no with construction for objects
> (such like)
>
> object.x = 20 (x is a number)
>
> or
>
> WITH (object) {
> .x = 20
> }
>
> Just wondering
>
> Samuel
>
>
> --
> Flexcoders Mailing List
> FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt
> Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
[flexcoders] WITH construction ?
Guys,
am i going nuts and that there is no with construction for objects
(such like)
object.x = 20 (x is a number)
or
WITH (object) {
.x = 20
}
Just wondering
Samuel
