Re: [flexcoders] will Flash (stand-alone) Remoting be upgraded for Flex 2.0? (ie not FDS)

2006-08-05 Thread Nick Collins



Nope, FDS is Java only, to the best of my knowledge. for .Net support the only current option is WebORB.On 8/3/06, Barry Beattie 
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 If you dont mind spending $20,000 for flex in order to do something that used to cost 1k.

which is kinda my point (well, related to).

it's not a big server setup we have here but it's enough to push us
into the enterprise level (or so it seems). it's not for one specific
app but a bunch of piddley little stand-alone ones with NOT a high
traffic count.

it'd be good to get some official word (or at least a bunch of ppl who
are good at guessing wat Adobe would do) saying the stand-alone
product was at the end of it's line. It'll make my case of keeping CF
and upgrading to 7.02 even  stronger (if it gets considered, that is).

hang on, (I don't really care but) does this mean the .NET version
is gone too? if you're running .NET you have to go thru FDS as well?

  















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[flexcoders] will Flash (stand-alone) Remoting be upgraded for Flex 2.0? (ie not FDS)

2006-08-03 Thread Barry Beattie
I just need clarification on the future of the stand-alone remoting
(for Java) .  the end of the line?

http://www.adobe.com/products/flashremoting/productinfo/versions_pricing/

yes, I realise this is where FDS comes in but what if you need
remoting without the extra FDS features (and price tag)? (... for
Java)

there's a long story behind this question, involving struggling to
keep CF as a platform here as well as trying to raise Flex 2.0
profile.

thanx
barry.b


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Re: [flexcoders] will Flash (stand-alone) Remoting be upgraded for Flex 2.0? (ie not FDS)

2006-08-03 Thread Nick Collins



If you're using Coldfusion MX7, just run the 7.0.2 updater and it will give you remoting built in.On 8/3/06, Barry Beattie 
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I just need clarification on the future of the stand-alone remoting
(for Java) .  the end of the line?

http://www.adobe.com/products/flashremoting/productinfo/versions_pricing/


yes, I realise this is where FDS comes in but what if you need
remoting without the extra FDS features (and price tag)? (... for
Java)

there's a long story behind this question, involving struggling to
keep CF as a platform here as well as trying to raise Flex 2.0
profile.

thanx
barry.b

  















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Re: [flexcoders] will Flash (stand-alone) Remoting be upgraded for Flex 2.0? (ie not FDS)

2006-08-03 Thread Barry Beattie
If you're using Coldfusion MX7, just run the 7.0.2 updater and it
will give you remoting built in.

yes Nick, I know

but that's not what I'm asking.

I'm specifically asking about the stand-alone remoting product that is
(was?) available for Java (and .NET) and whether it will be upgraded
to AMF3 (or it stays at AMF0, is depricated and eventually phased
out).

I didn't want to spell it out in the origional post but, unless I can
align Flex 2 to the strategic plan here and can then drag CF along
with it, CF here will *never* be upgraded to 7. it will remain at 6.1
at best.   There's a big push up high to move us to Java/JSP
development and away from CF (for lots of reasons I won't mention
here).


note: OpenAMF: I'm deliberatly ignoring it at the moment (for
reasons). same with AMFPHP

thanx
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Re: [flexcoders] will Flash (stand-alone) Remoting be upgraded for Flex 2.0? (ie not FDS)

2006-08-03 Thread Jeremy Lu




uhm, I don't know if Flash Remoting for Java/.NET will continue, but
you can use flash remoting with flex2 now, no need for newer remoting
gateway anyway.

If you insist on having AMF3, there's always 3rd party product (like weborb) supporting it.


Jeremy.On 8/4/06, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:













  



If you're using Coldfusion MX7, just run the 7.0.2 updater and it
will give you remoting built in.

yes Nick, I know

but that's not what I'm asking.

I'm specifically asking about the stand-alone remoting product that is
(was?) available for Java (and .NET) and whether it will be upgraded
to AMF3 (or it stays at AMF0, is depricated and eventually phased
out).

I didn't want to spell it out in the origional post but, unless I can
align Flex 2 to the strategic plan here and can then drag CF along
with it, CF here will *never* be upgraded to 7. it will remain at 6.1
at best.   There's a big push up high to move us to Java/JSP
development and away from CF (for lots of reasons I won't mention
here).

note: OpenAMF: I'm deliberatly ignoring it at the moment (for
reasons). same with AMFPHP

thanx
barry.b

  















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Re: [flexcoders] will Flash (stand-alone) Remoting be upgraded for Flex 2.0? (ie not FDS)

2006-08-03 Thread hank williams



no need for newer remoting
gateway anyway.If you dont mind spending $20,000 for flex in order to do something that used to cost 1k.

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Re: [flexcoders] will Flash (stand-alone) Remoting be upgraded for Flex 2.0? (ie not FDS)

2006-08-03 Thread Chris Velevitch
On 8/4/06, Jeremy Lu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  uhm, I don't know if Flash Remoting for Java/.NET will continue, but you can 
 use flash remoting with flex2 now, no need for newer remoting gateway anyway.

  If you insist on having AMF3, there's always 3rd party product (like weborb) 
 supporting it.

Considering that Coldfusion runs on JRun, the Java version should
still be around as I don't see much difference between Remoting for
Coldfusion and Java.


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Re: [flexcoders] will Flash (stand-alone) Remoting be upgraded for Flex 2.0? (ie not FDS)

2006-08-03 Thread Jeremy Lu




well, don't quite understand what you mean, but I'm referring to that
you can use customized NetConnection object to connect existing
remoting gateway (AMF0, no matter it's for .net/java/php).

You could take a look at Renaun's remoting component, that's the way to go without changing any backend settings.


Jeremy.On 8/4/06, hank williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:













  



no need for newer remoting
gateway anyway.If you dont mind spending $20,000 for flex in order to do something that used to cost 1k.

  















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Re: [flexcoders] will Flash (stand-alone) Remoting be upgraded for Flex 2.0? (ie not FDS)

2006-08-03 Thread Barry Beattie
 If you dont mind spending $20,000 for flex in order to do something that used 
 to cost 1k.

which is kinda my point (well, related to).

it's not a big server setup we have here but it's enough to push us
into the enterprise level (or so it seems). it's not for one specific
app but a bunch of piddley little stand-alone ones with NOT a high
traffic count.


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product was at the end of it's line. It'll make my case of keeping CF
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