Re: [flexcoders] Re: Beta Flex 2 release Date? Any one for a Guess

2006-01-08 Thread Hans Omli



To clarify, will I also need a license for Flex Enterprise Services (in addition to Flex Builder 2 and CFMX7) to publish and subscribe between a Flex client and a CFC? Or will basic pub/sub functionality be built directly into CFMX7 apart from any need for FES?
 Do you think you can use the pub/sub functionality as described?I'll definately use pub/sub functionality. However, I'm not clear yet on when I'll do so with CFMX7 versus Flex Enterprise Services versus Flash Media Server 2 versus custom socket servers. Looking forward to learning more about the different functionality of each offering during the beta!
 How do you envision a CFC backend to Flex2 Data services?For projects where I'm mixing CF and Java, I'd consider passing everything through Flex Enterprise Services, as I prefer a single point of entry. I'll need to better understand the differences in functionality between the CF gateway and FES before I can really envision when I'd use CFCs versus POJOs on the backend.







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RE: [flexcoders] Re: Beta Flex 2 release Date? Any one for a Guess

2006-01-08 Thread Philip Costa





To clarify, will I also need a license for Flex 
Enterprise Services (in addition to Flex Builder 2 and CFMX7) to publish and 
subscribe between a Flex client and a CFC? Or will basic pub/sub 
functionality be built directly into CFMX7 apart from any need for 
FES?As you can see, at the moment Tom'sprimary concern is getting 
everything working and designing new 
interoperabilitysufficiently.

At this point, all I can say about packaging is that at a 
minimum you will be able to use Flex Builder 2 together with the remoting 
functionality you already have in CF.We're still working on packaging and 
release schedules for new features.

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Re: RIch Text Editor (was RE: [flexcoders] Re: Beta Flex 2 release Date? Any one for a Guess)

2006-01-07 Thread Manish Jethani
On 1/5/06, Benoit Hediard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Has anybody successfully used the Flex2 RichTextEditor in alpha release?
 I gave up, I found it impossible to use : it was full of focus bugs when
 used in a popup with accordion process.

A number of bugs have been fixed in the RichTextEditor since Alpha 1.

 Still using a plain TextArea... and waiting the beta to see if the problem
 is solved.

The RichTextEditor is nothing but a Panel containing a TextArea and
some formatting using the TextRange utility class.  It shouldn't be
that hard to create your own custom rich text editor in Flex 2.

Manish


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Re: RIch Text Editor (was RE: [flexcoders] Re: Beta Flex 2 release Date? Any one for a Guess)

2006-01-07 Thread Manish Jethani
On 1/6/06, Leif Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

(Trying to address a couple of your concerns...)

 Text Selection Not Holding After Formatting:
 When the user selects text, clicks the bold button the text is made
 bold.Then the text isn't selected. So if I want to apply italic to
 that same text I have to re-select it. Users hated it.
[snip]

The Flex 2 RichTextEditor doesn't have this problem.

 Native CSS-like output:
 In a lot of cases we lock down the use of fonts for our text entry
 (having access to 20 fonts is often a bad thing). I'd love to have the
 ability to store something like this in my database:
 pThis is my ivery/i bfirst/b paragraph./p
 If I can do that then I could apply CSS styling to the string and have
 it look great in the application. The problem is getting it into that
 format. On a project in 2004 I really had to do a lot of head standing
 to get it right. Having something better than getRichText() that
 returns a string with a lot of FONT tags in it would make our lives
 much better and save a ton of space in the database. getCSSText()?

Try this:

 mx:RichTextEditor id=rte /
 mx:Text text={rte.htmlText} /

The text returned by 'htmlText' is well-formed XML and can be easily
modified using E4X [1]

[1]:http://labs.macromedia.com/wiki/index.php/ActionScript_3:resources:apis:E4X:overview

Manish


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RE: [flexcoders] Re: Beta Flex 2 release Date? Any one for a Guess

2006-01-06 Thread Dirk Eismann
Hey Tom,

that's great news - we're looking forward to taking advantage of the
Data Services infarstructure with CF.

 I don't expect this to be available at the same 
 time as the next beta, but miracles can happen. :)

[ ] That's fine with me
[x] Vote for miracle

;)

Dirk.


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RE: [flexcoders] Re: Beta Flex 2 release Date? Any one for a Guess

2006-01-06 Thread Philippe Maegerman





This is so sweeet :)))
Can we expectsomething likean 'Adobe 
Developer Bundle', including flex / cf / fms / graphics serverfor a 
democratic price?

 
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From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom 
JordahlSent: jeudi 5 janvier 2006 19:35To: 
flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: [flexcoders] Re: Beta Flex 2 
release Date? Any one for a Guess
Hello,I am working on the ColdFusion MX 7 and Flex2 
integration. Here iswhat we currently have scheduled to be available 
around the same timeas the next Flex2 beta.- An update to the CFC 
Adapter that is currently available onMacromedia labs. This is mainly 
bug fixes, and updates to stay insync with the current Flex2 code.- 
A CF Event Gateway Adapter for Flex2 and Flex Asynchronous EventGateway for 
CFMX7. These two pieces together allow you to publish andsubscribe to 
Flex Enterprise Services "destinations" from a ColdFusionComponent. 
You can publish messages from a Flex client that a CFCwill receive. 
You can publish messages from CFML code that a Flexclient can see. For 
an idea on how this can be used, see the Flex JMS(Java Messaging Service) 
Adapter example. This is for Async Messagingand does not integrate 
ColdFusion with Flex Data Services (see below).So the major new piece 
here is integration with the publish/subscribefunctionality in the Flex2 
Messaging services.We are also looking to create an adapter that will 
enable a ColdFusionComponent to be the back end to the Flex Data Services 
layer, similarto the way Java Objects can currently be used. I don't 
expect this tobe available at the same time as the next beta, but miracles 
canhappen. :) Rest assured that we want to get this kind 
offunctionality into your hands and get as much feedback on it as we 
can.FYI, we also are hard at work on some CF-specific Flex Builder 
2productivity extensions that should dramatically increase 
theproductivity of RIA construction for CF customers, and make the 
leapto RIA development for CF customers new to RIA with Flex2 a 
supereasy, fun and productive experience, but more on that later :) 
Questions:- Do you think you can use the pub/sub functionality as 
described?- How do you envision a CFC backend to Flex2 Data 
services?--Tom JordahlAdobe ColdFusion 
Architect--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Vinny 
Timmermans[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi 
David,  I am working on an Flex 2 /CFMX7 Enterprise 
project and my mainconcern at the moment is whether the Flex 
Enterprise Gateway beta for CF,announced at MAX, will be released at 
the same time as the Flex EnterpriseServices beta. In other words, 
can we get our hands dirty connecting the new Flex 2 Dataservices with 
CFMX 7 Enterprise in a straightforward way in 3-5weeks?  
 Best,  Vinny  
 _   From: 
flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
Of David Mendels Sent: woensdag 4 januari 2006 22:15 To: 
flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Beta Flex 2 release 
Date? Any one for a Guess   Hi all, 
 Good to hear you are eager. The team is hard at work. The 
nextbeta will be a big leap forward. I am not going to give a 
specific date orcommit to anything...we need to make sure the beta 
is ready before we ship it,but I would expect it in 3-5 weeks. NO 
guarantee.  In the meantime, I'd love to hear more about 
what kinds of projectsyou are working on for Flex 2, were you using 
Flex 1.X or is this your firstFlex project, nature of team, high 
level impressions, concerns, etc.  Regards, 
David Adobe   _  
 From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Jose (DSM) Lora Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 
3:34 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] 
Beta Flex 2 release Date? Any one for a Guess
Same here, I have a development team waiting for that Beta 
_  
  From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sufibaba Sent: 
Wednesday, January 04, 2006 2:15 PM To: 
flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Beta Flex 2 release 
Date? Any one for a GuessHi 
All,  Can anyone give an estimate on when Flex 2 will be 
released? It doesn't have to be a final word, just an approximate 
time. We are working on a Flex 2 project that is being slowed to a 
halt do the many bugs in Flex Alpha.   
Sincerely,  Tim





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Re: [flexcoders] Re: Beta Flex 2 release Date? Any one for a Guess

2006-01-06 Thread Weyert de Boer
Sounds nice, you know when my birthday is, right? ;-)



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Re: [flexcoders] Re: Beta Flex 2 release Date? Any one for a Guess

2006-01-06 Thread Martin Wood


Philippe Maegerman wrote:
 This is so sweeet :)))
 Can we expect something like an 'Adobe Developer Bundle', including flex 
 / cf / fms / graphics server for a democratic price ?

you mean a price we all get to vote on? ;)



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Re: RIch Text Editor (was RE: [flexcoders] Re: Beta Flex 2 release Date? Any one for a Guess)

2006-01-05 Thread Leif Wells
David,

I have *NOT* used the Flex 2 RTE, but I have used several Flash RTEs.
*If* the two are based on similar code then here are some of the
problems I had as a developer and as a user (if not, just file these
comments as crazed man at computer):

Text Selection Not Holding After Formatting:
When the user selects text, clicks the bold button the text is made
bold.Then the text isn't selected. So if I want to apply italic to
that same text I have to re-select it. Users hated it. It had
something to do with the TextField, but I can't recall exactly what
(JesterXL, care to comment?)

Native CSS-like output:
In a lot of cases we lock down the use of fonts for our text entry
(having access to 20 fonts is often a bad thing). I'd love to have the
ability to store something like this in my database:
pThis is my ivery/i bfirst/b paragraph./p
If I can do that then I could apply CSS styling to the string and have
it look great in the application. The problem is getting it into that
format. On a project in 2004 I really had to do a lot of head standing
to get it right. Having something better than getRichText() that
returns a string with a lot of FONT tags in it would make our lives
much better and save a ton of space in the database. getCSSText()?

HTML support above 1.0?:
There are a lot of people out there who would like to have tables and
columns inside a Flash/Flex-based RTE.

Embedded Fonts:
The RTE that shipped with one of Macromedia's DRK's actually had code
commented out for using embedded fonts even though they were listing
that as a feature (and had it in the documentation). What was up with
that? No idea. Must have been a technical issue.

Superscript/Subscript Support:
Yeah, there. I said it. And I feel better.

Someone else will have to ask for RtoL text, since that seems to be a
Flash Player download size issue.

Let me also point you to this short thread:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/message/8332

That's all I have for now. Others may add or flame as necessary.

Leif



On 1/4/06, David Mendels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

 Can you give very specific feedback on what you need in the RTE?

 -David




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Re: RIch Text Editor (was RE: [flexcoders] Re: Beta Flex 2 release Date? Any one for a Guess)

2006-01-05 Thread JesterXL
The text selection was actually 2 issues.  The first was focus management, 
which required a PHD in Flash focus management (and FocusManager).  If it 
didn't work, it was my fault.  The later was bugs in the HTML generated from 
TextFormat.

- Original Message - 
From: Leif Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: RIch Text Editor (was RE: [flexcoders] Re: Beta Flex 2 release 
Date? Any one for a Guess)


David,

I have *NOT* used the Flex 2 RTE, but I have used several Flash RTEs.
*If* the two are based on similar code then here are some of the
problems I had as a developer and as a user (if not, just file these
comments as crazed man at computer):

Text Selection Not Holding After Formatting:
When the user selects text, clicks the bold button the text is made
bold.Then the text isn't selected. So if I want to apply italic to
that same text I have to re-select it. Users hated it. It had
something to do with the TextField, but I can't recall exactly what
(JesterXL, care to comment?)

Native CSS-like output:
In a lot of cases we lock down the use of fonts for our text entry
(having access to 20 fonts is often a bad thing). I'd love to have the
ability to store something like this in my database:
pThis is my ivery/i bfirst/b paragraph./p
If I can do that then I could apply CSS styling to the string and have
it look great in the application. The problem is getting it into that
format. On a project in 2004 I really had to do a lot of head standing
to get it right. Having something better than getRichText() that
returns a string with a lot of FONT tags in it would make our lives
much better and save a ton of space in the database. getCSSText()?

HTML support above 1.0?:
There are a lot of people out there who would like to have tables and
columns inside a Flash/Flex-based RTE.

Embedded Fonts:
The RTE that shipped with one of Macromedia's DRK's actually had code
commented out for using embedded fonts even though they were listing
that as a feature (and had it in the documentation). What was up with
that? No idea. Must have been a technical issue.

Superscript/Subscript Support:
Yeah, there. I said it. And I feel better.

Someone else will have to ask for RtoL text, since that seems to be a
Flash Player download size issue.

Let me also point you to this short thread:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/message/8332

That's all I have for now. Others may add or flame as necessary.

Leif



On 1/4/06, David Mendels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

 Can you give very specific feedback on what you need in the RTE?

 -David




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RE: [flexcoders] Re: Beta Flex 2 release Date? Any one for a Guess

2006-01-05 Thread João Fernandes
Tom, 

Thanks for all this info, I was waiting for this kind of info for a long time 
since nothing was clear for Flex 2 DS + CF Enterprise.

For the Messaging part, those 2 event gateways are very welcome. 

What I really wanted to know,and I bet that I'm not the only one, how is the 
CFC back-end going to work? 
Will I be able to implement one of those popular frameworks like Reactor, Arf!, 
ObjectBreeze? 
Will I be obliged to set all those methods (fill,synch,create,update,delete) in 
1 single CFC for each destination? 
How will FDS be notified if a record was altered from a CFML front-end? and so 
on, and so on...

João Fernandes
Secção de Desenvolvimento
Departamento de Informática


-Original Message-
From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Tom Jordahl
Sent: Thu 05-Jan-06 6:34 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Beta Flex 2 release Date?  Any one for a Guess
 
Hello,

I am working on the ColdFusion MX 7 and Flex2 integration.  Here is
what we currently have scheduled to be available around the same time
as the next Flex2 beta.

- An update to the CFC Adapter that is currently available on
Macromedia labs.  This is mainly bug fixes, and updates to stay in
sync with the current Flex2 code.

- A CF Event Gateway Adapter for Flex2 and Flex Asynchronous Event
Gateway for CFMX7.  These two pieces together allow you to publish and
subscribe to Flex Enterprise Services destinations from a ColdFusion
Component.  You can publish messages from a Flex client that a CFC
will receive.  You can publish messages from CFML code that a Flex
client can see.  For an idea on how this can be used, see the Flex JMS
(Java Messaging Service) Adapter example.  This is for Async Messaging
and does not integrate ColdFusion with Flex Data Services (see below).

So the major new piece here is integration with the publish/subscribe
functionality in the Flex2 Messaging services.

We are also looking to create an adapter that will enable a ColdFusion
Component to be the back end to the Flex Data Services layer, similar
to the way Java Objects can currently be used.  I don't expect this to
be available at the same time as the next beta, but miracles can
happen. :)  Rest assured that we want to get this kind of
functionality into your hands and get as much feedback on it as we can.

FYI, we also are hard at work on some CF-specific Flex Builder 2
productivity extensions that should dramatically increase the
productivity of RIA construction for CF customers, and make the leap
to RIA development for CF customers new to RIA with Flex2 a super
easy, fun and productive experience, but more on that later :)  

Questions:
- Do you think you can use the pub/sub functionality as described?
- How do you envision a CFC backend to Flex2 Data services?

--
Tom Jordahl
Adobe ColdFusion Architect




--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Vinny Timmermans
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi David,
  
 I am working on an Flex 2 /CFMX7 Enterprise project and my main
concern at
 the moment is whether the Flex Enterprise Gateway beta for CF,
announced at
 MAX, will be released at the same time as the Flex Enterprise
Services beta.
 In other words, can we get our hands dirty connecting the new Flex 2
 Dataservices with CFMX 7 Enterprise in a straightforward way in 3-5
weeks? 
  
 Best,
  
 Vinny
 
 
   _  
 
 From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of David Mendels
 Sent: woensdag 4 januari 2006 22:15
 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Beta Flex 2 release Date? Any one for a Guess
 
 
 Hi all,
  
 Good to hear you are eager.  The team is hard at work.  The next
beta will
 be a big leap forward.  I am not going to give a specific date or
commit to
 anything...we need to make sure the beta is ready before we ship it,
but I
 would expect it in 3-5 weeks. NO guarantee.
  
 In the meantime, I'd love to hear more about what kinds of projects
you are
 working on for Flex 2, were you using Flex 1.X or is this your first
Flex
 project, nature of team, high level impressions, concerns, etc.
  
 Regards,
 David
 Adobe
 
 
   _  
 
 From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Jose (DSM) Lora
 Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 3:34 PM
 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Beta Flex 2 release Date? Any one for a Guess
 
 
 
 Same here, I have a development team waiting for that Beta
 
  
 
 
   _  
 
 
 From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of sufibaba
 Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 2:15 PM
 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [flexcoders] Beta Flex 2 release Date? Any one for a Guess
 
  
 
 Hi All,
 
 Can anyone give an estimate on when Flex 2 will be released?  It
 doesn't have to be a final word, just an approximate time.  We are
 working on a Flex 2 project that is being slowed to a halt do the many
 bugs in Flex Alpha.  
 
 Sincerely,
 
 Tim





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RIch Text Editor (was RE: [flexcoders] Re: Beta Flex 2 release Date? Any one for a Guess)

2006-01-04 Thread David Mendels





Hi,

Can you give very specific feedback on what you need in the 
RTE?

-David

  
  
  From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy 
  RottmanSent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 5:33 PMTo: 
  flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: [flexcoders] Re: Beta Flex 2 
  release Date? Any one for a Guess
  I cant wait for flex beta 2. I am having a huge blast with flex 
  alpha1 right now. As for now, I have three projects that I am 
  working on. Project 1: Broker Firm BackOffice Demo tool. Developed to 
  include allaspects of our current coldfusion site. File tracking, file 
  additions,file management. Another cool feature that I have added to the 
  flexversion is a paperless transaction system that will incorporate 
  thenewly added barcodes to all arizona realestate documents. 
  Project 2: Is an open source cf/flex Tournament/Stat tracking 
  system.This is still in the early stages of alpha, but it is shaping up 
  quitenicely. So far I have included a dynamic 8, 16 and 32 man 
  tournamentbracket system. This will be open source, and when I feel that I 
  havehit a beta stage, I will post it up on source forge.Project 3: 
  MLS Display system. This is another system that is built oncf/flex. Long 
  gone are the days of the slow mls searches. Users willbe able to search 
  the MLS system of most states from one central area.This is another of my 
  demo sites that I am looking to compelte by midmarch and have up for 
  people to play with.Now for my complaits. A few things that I would 
  like to see betterimplemented. I know I am not the one one who feels that 
  the live docsfor flex are a little cumbersome. I would like to see 
  something alongthe lines of CF's livedocs imlemented. As for the 
  rich text editor, this is seemed like a good idea while Iwas playing with 
  it, but after a few different failed attempets ofimplementation, I think 
  the RTE needs to be looked at better. I forone would like to see something 
  like fkeditor or soemthing similar forflex.Other then those grips, 
  flex is a great tool.--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "David 
  Mendels" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, 
   Good to hear you are eager. The team is hard at work. The 
  next beta will be a big leap forward. I am not going to give a 
  specific date or commit to anything...we need to make sure the beta is 
  ready before we ship it, but I would expect it in 3-5 weeks. NO 
  guarantee.  In the meantime, I'd love to hear more about 
  what kinds of projects you are working on for Flex 2, were you using 
  Flex 1.X or is this your first Flex project, nature of team, high 
  level impressions, concerns, etc.  Regards, 
  David Adobe   
    
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 Same here, I have a 
  development team waiting for that Beta  
 

     
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   Hi All,  
Can anyone give an estimate on when 
  Flex 2 will be released? It  
  doesn't have to be a final word, just an approximate time. We 
  are  working on a Flex 2 project that is 
  being slowed to a halt do the many 
   bugs in Flex Alpha.  
 
  Sincerely,   
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Re: RIch Text Editor (was RE: [flexcoders] Re: Beta Flex 2 release Date? Any one for a Guess)

2006-01-04 Thread Weyert de Boer

 Hi,

 Can you give very specific feedback on what you need in the RTE?

Someway to make your own editors in Flash i.e. handle it all yourselves.
It might be possible partly by AS3 already, though. Not sure, haven't
tried it y et.


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Re: RIch Text Editor (was RE: [flexcoders] Re: Beta Flex 2 release Date? Any one for a Guess)

2006-01-04 Thread JesterXL
It is.

mx:RichTextEditor /

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 Hi,

 Can you give very specific feedback on what you need in the RTE?

Someway to make your own editors in Flash i.e. handle it all yourselves.
It might be possible partly by AS3 already, though. Not sure, haven't
tried it y et.


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