Re: [flexcoders] Stats on flash player 9 penetration.

2006-10-03 Thread John Dowdell
Clint Modien wrote:
 I'm totally confused now.  Isn't the only thing requiring a player upgrade
 to 9.0 flex 2?  Without auto-update turned on what is causing such a 
 blazing fast adoption rate?

I think it's the content. While YouTube requires Adobe Flash Player 8 or 
better, anyone still upgrading from v7 or previous will now get the 
current version, Flash Player 9.

Rephrased, a site doesn't *have* to specify FP9... anytime that they 
specify a minimum version greater than what someone has installed, then 
(as of the end of June) they'll be getting FP9.

MySpace going to SWF9 did increase adoption rates, but even if they have 
90 million regular visitors, that's still only about three weeks' worth 
of normal Flash Player distribution... from what I'm told, we've been 
seeing five to six million successful installations per day anyway. 
MySpace *did* have an effect in bunching upgrade requests together, but 
the total Flash Player 9 audience is already far larger than the MySpace 
audience.

There's a virtuous circle going on with Flash work now... the 
application developers benefit from the video sites, from the 
advertisers, from the newspaper infographics, from the personality sites.

More on the different sociology of Adobe Flash Player 9 here:
http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd/archives/2006/08/linux_observati.cfm

jd





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Re: [flexcoders] Stats on flash player 9 penetration.

2006-10-01 Thread Clint Modien



Thanks Matt.

I'm totally confused now. Isn't the only thing requiring a player upgrade to 9.0 flex 2? Without auto-update turned on what is causing such a blazing fast adoption rate?


On 9/30/06, Matt Chotin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:







Actually I'm not sure we've turned on auto-update yet. But the downloads have been high without it. We're still figuring out the timing of auto-update.


Matt





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Clint Modien wrote: Do we have stats for flash player 9 penetration yet? Has Adobe turned on the auto-update for flash 9 player yet? If not... when?
 Do we have stats for when Adobe turned on auto-update for flash 8 player? What was the adoption rate before and after it was turned on?Adobe Flash Player 9 entered general public distribution at the end of June:
http://weblogs.macromedia.com/emmy/archives/2006/06/a_pocket_guide.cfm
It did not fall within the most recent consumer audit:
http://weblogs.macromedia.com/emmy/archives/2006/08/flash_player_8_1.cfmThe daily rate of successful installations indicates that we're likely close to an astounding 50% consumer viewability already:
http://blog.digitalbackcountry.com/?p=498I don't know the auto-update date offhand, but it has contributed to the above results.FP9 adoption is freakin' fast, that's the long and short of it. ;-)
jd-- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USAWeblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd
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RE: [flexcoders] Stats on flash player 9 penetration.

2006-10-01 Thread Matt Chotin












Some very popular sites require Player 9
because it was the earliest release with some security fixes. Those fixes are
in older versions that will be coming out soon (or may have already come out).
As in, there will be newer versions of Player 8 and Player 7 with those fixes I
think.



Matt











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Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006
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To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Stats on
flash player 9 penetration.













Thanks Matt.











I'm totally confused now. Isn't the only thing requiring a player
upgrade to 9.0 flex 2? Without auto-update turned on what is causing such
a blazing fast adoption rate?



















On 9/30/06, Matt
Chotin [EMAIL PROTECTED]com
wrote: 











Actually I'm not sure
we've turned on auto-update yet. But the downloads have been high without
it. We're still figuring out the timing of auto-update. 



Matt











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Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Stats on
flash player 9 penetration. 











Clint Modien wrote:
 Do we have stats for flash player 9 penetration yet?
 Has Adobe turned on the auto-update for flash 9 player yet? If not...
when? 
 Do we have stats for when Adobe turned on auto-update for flash 8
 player? What was the adoption rate before and after it was turned on?

Adobe Flash Player 9 entered general public distribution at the end of June: 
http://weblogs.macromedia.com/emmy/archives/2006/06/a_pocket_guide.cfm


It did not fall within the most recent consumer audit:
http://weblogs.macromedia.com/emmy/archives/2006/08/flash_player_8_1.cfm

The daily rate of successful installations indicates that we're likely 
close to an astounding 50% consumer viewability already:
http://blog.digitalbackcountry.com/?p=498

I don't know the auto-update date offhand, but it has contributed to the 
above results.

FP9 adoption is freakin' fast, that's the long and short of it. ;-)

jd

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Re: [flexcoders] Stats on flash player 9 penetration.

2006-10-01 Thread Clint Modien



Thanks guys... I'll relay this info to my client. Should help them choose to go with flex 2.
On 10/1/06, Matt Chotin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:







Some very popular sites require Player 9 because it was the earliest release with some security fixes. Those fixes are in older versions that will be coming out soon (or may have already come out). As in, there will be newer versions of Player 8 and Player 7 with those fixes I think.


Matt





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ups.com] On Behalf Of Clint ModienSent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 10:42 AM 
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Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Stats on flash player 9 penetration.







Thanks Matt.



I'm totally confused now. Isn't the only thing requiring a player upgrade to 9.0 flex 2? Without auto-update turned on what is causing such a blazing fast adoption rate?






On 9/30/06, Matt Chotin 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 





Actually I'm not sure we've turned on auto-update yet. But the downloads have been high without it. We're still figuring out the timing of auto-update. 


Matt





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Clint Modien wrote: Do we have stats for flash player 9 penetration yet? Has Adobe turned on the auto-update for flash 9 player yet? If not... when? 
 Do we have stats for when Adobe turned on auto-update for flash 8 player? What was the adoption rate before and after it was turned on?Adobe Flash Player 9 entered general public distribution at the end of June: 
http://weblogs.macromedia.com/emmy/archives/2006/06/a_pocket_guide.cfm 
It did not fall within the most recent consumer audit:
http://weblogs.macromedia.com/emmy/archives/2006/08/flash_player_8_1.cfmThe daily rate of successful installations indicates that we're likely close to an astounding 50% consumer viewability already:
http://blog.digitalbackcountry.com/?p=498I don't know the auto-update date offhand, but it has contributed to the above results.FP9 adoption is freakin' fast, that's the long and short of it. ;-)
jd-- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USAWeblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd 
Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxnaTechnotes: 
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Re: [flexcoders] Stats on flash player 9 penetration.

2006-10-01 Thread Michael Schmalle



Could it be that Flex 2 was in alpha back in Jan and it just is more wlecome because a lot of people were 'experiementing'.Just a thought,Peace, MikeOn 10/1/06, 
Matt Chotin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:













  













Some very popular sites require Player 9
because it was the earliest release with some security fixes. Those fixes are
in older versions that will be coming out soon (or may have already come out).
As in, there will be newer versions of Player 8 and Player 7 with those fixes I
think.



Matt











From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ups.com] On Behalf Of Clint Modien
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006
10:42 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Stats on
flash player 9 penetration.













Thanks Matt.











I'm totally confused now. Isn't the only thing requiring a player
upgrade to 9.0 flex 2? Without auto-update turned on what is causing such
a blazing fast adoption rate?



















On 9/30/06, Matt
Chotin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote: 












Actually I'm not sure
we've turned on auto-update yet. But the downloads have been high without
it. We're still figuring out the timing of auto-update. 





Matt














From:
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ups.com] On Behalf Of John Dowdell
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006
2:47 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Stats on
flash player 9 penetration. 













Clint Modien wrote:
 Do we have stats for flash player 9 penetration yet?
 Has Adobe turned on the auto-update for flash 9 player yet? If not...
when? 
 Do we have stats for when Adobe turned on auto-update for flash 8
 player? What was the adoption rate before and after it was turned on?

Adobe Flash Player 9 entered general public distribution at the end of June: 
http://weblogs.macromedia.com/emmy/archives/2006/06/a_pocket_guide.cfm


It did not fall within the most recent consumer audit:
http://weblogs.macromedia.com/emmy/archives/2006/08/flash_player_8_1.cfm


The daily rate of successful installations indicates that we're likely 
close to an astounding 50% consumer viewability already:
http://blog.digitalbackcountry.com/?p=498

I don't know the auto-update date offhand, but it has contributed to the 
above results.

FP9 adoption is freakin' fast, that's the long and short of it. ;-)

jd

-- 
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Support . San Francisco CA USA
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RE: [flexcoders] Stats on flash player 9 penetration.

2006-10-01 Thread David Mendels





Hi,

Two more data points:

a) One from JD: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd/archives/2006/10/apple_updates_f.cfm

Not everyone cares about the Mac, but for those who do, it 
is nice to know that Apple is pushing FP9 out to all their 
customers

b) I can't give the name, but I was speaking with one of 
the largest manufacturers in North America recently. They are doing a lot 
of internal applications with Flex 2 and decided to push out Flash Player 9 to 
all 100,000+ desktop machines in their company worldwide. This is great 
news for Flash Player 9 in its first 90 days on the market. It is just one 
data point, but this is the earliest I have ever seen that 
behaviour.

-David


From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clint 
ModienSent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 3:06 PMTo: 
flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [flexcoders] Stats on flash 
player 9 penetration.

Thanks guys... I'll relay this info to my client. Should help them 
choose to go with flex 2.
On 10/1/06, Matt 
Chotin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote: 

  
  
  
  
  
  
  Some very popular 
  sites require Player 9 because it was the earliest release with some security 
  fixes. Those fixes are in older versions that will be coming out soon 
  (or may have already come out). As in, there will be newer versions of 
  Player 8 and Player 7 with those fixes I think. 
  
  Matt
  
  
  
  
  
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com] On Behalf Of 
  Clint ModienSent: 
  Sunday, October 01, 2006 10:42 AM 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Stats on flash 
  player 9 penetration.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  Thanks 
  Matt.
  
  
  
  I'm 
  totally confused now. Isn't the only thing requiring a player upgrade to 
  9.0 flex 2? Without auto-update turned on what is causing such a blazing 
  fast adoption rate? 
  
  
  
  
  
  On 
  9/30/06, Matt Chotin  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote: 
  
  
  
  
  
  Actually I'm not sure 
  we've turned on auto-update yet. But the downloads have been high 
  without it. We're still figuring out the timing of auto-update. 
  
  
  Matt
  
  
  
  
  
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com] On Behalf Of 
  John DowdellSent: 
  Friday, September 29, 2006 2:47 PMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.comSubject: Re: [flexcoders] Stats on flash 
  player 9 penetration. 
  
  
  
  
  Clint Modien wrote: Do we have stats for flash 
  player 9 penetration yet? Has Adobe turned on the auto-update for 
  flash 9 player yet? If not... when?  Do we have stats for when Adobe 
  turned on auto-update for flash 8 player? What was the adoption rate 
  before and after it was turned on?Adobe Flash Player 9 entered general 
  public distribution at the end of June: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/emmy/archives/2006/06/a_pocket_guide.cfm 
  It did not fall within the most recent consumer audit:http://weblogs.macromedia.com/emmy/archives/2006/08/flash_player_8_1.cfmThe 
  daily rate of successful installations indicates that we're likely close 
  to an astounding 50% consumer viewability already:http://blog.digitalbackcountry.com/?p=498I don't 
  know the auto-update date offhand, but it has contributed to the above 
  results.FP9 adoption is freakin' fast, that's the long and short of 
  it. ;-)jd-- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San 
  Francisco CA USAWeblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxnaTechnotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/Spam killed my private 
  email -- public record is best, 
  thanks.
  
  
  
   
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Re: [flexcoders] Stats on flash player 9 penetration.

2006-10-01 Thread Tom Bray



I think it might have a lot to do with the fact that MySpace requires Flash 9 for security reasons. See http://www.flickr.com/photos/niallkennedy/194489479/
Just a hunch :)-TomOn 10/1/06, Michael Schmalle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:













  



Could it be that Flex 2 was in alpha back in Jan and it just is more wlecome because a lot of people were 'experiementing'.Just a thought,Peace, Mike
On 10/1/06, 
Matt Chotin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:














  













Some very popular sites require Player 9
because it was the earliest release with some security fixes. Those fixes are
in older versions that will be coming out soon (or may have already come out).
As in, there will be newer versions of Player 8 and Player 7 with those fixes I
think.



Matt











From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

ups.com [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ups.com] On Behalf Of Clint Modien
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006
10:42 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Stats on
flash player 9 penetration.













Thanks Matt.











I'm totally confused now. Isn't the only thing requiring a player
upgrade to 9.0 flex 2? Without auto-update turned on what is causing such
a blazing fast adoption rate?



















On 9/30/06, Matt
Chotin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote: 












Actually I'm not sure
we've turned on auto-update yet. But the downloads have been high without
it. We're still figuring out the timing of auto-update. 





Matt














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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 ups.com] On Behalf Of John Dowdell
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006
2:47 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Stats on
flash player 9 penetration. 













Clint Modien wrote:
 Do we have stats for flash player 9 penetration yet?
 Has Adobe turned on the auto-update for flash 9 player yet? If not...
when? 
 Do we have stats for when Adobe turned on auto-update for flash 8
 player? What was the adoption rate before and after it was turned on?

Adobe Flash Player 9 entered general public distribution at the end of June: 
http://weblogs.macromedia.com/emmy/archives/2006/06/a_pocket_guide.cfm


It did not fall within the most recent consumer audit:
http://weblogs.macromedia.com/emmy/archives/2006/08/flash_player_8_1.cfm


The daily rate of successful installations indicates that we're likely 
close to an astounding 50% consumer viewability already:
http://blog.digitalbackcountry.com/?p=498

I don't know the auto-update date offhand, but it has contributed to the 
above results.

FP9 adoption is freakin' fast, that's the long and short of it. ;-)

jd

-- 
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Support . San Francisco CA USA
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Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna
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RE: [flexcoders] Stats on flash player 9 penetration.

2006-09-30 Thread Matt Chotin












Actually Im not sure weve
turned on auto-update yet. But the downloads have been high without it. Were
still figuring out the timing of auto-update.



Matt











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 Dowdell
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006
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Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Stats on
flash player 9 penetration.











Clint
Modien wrote:
 Do we have stats for flash player 9 penetration yet?
 Has Adobe turned on the auto-update for flash 9 player yet? If not...
when?
 Do we have stats for when Adobe turned on auto-update for flash 8
 player? What was the adoption rate before and after it was turned on?

Adobe Flash Player 9 entered general public distribution at the end of June:
http://weblogs.macromedia.com/emmy/archives/2006/06/a_pocket_guide.cfm

It did not fall within the most recent consumer audit:
http://weblogs.macromedia.com/emmy/archives/2006/08/flash_player_8_1.cfm

The daily rate of successful installations indicates that we're likely 
close to an astounding 50% consumer viewability already:
http://blog.digitalbackcountry.com/?p=498

I don't know the auto-update date offhand, but it has contributed to the 
above results.

FP9 adoption is freakin' fast, that's the long and short of it. ;-)

jd

-- 
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Support . San Francisco CA USA
Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd
Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna
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Re: [flexcoders] Stats on flash player 9 penetration.

2006-09-29 Thread John Dowdell
Clint Modien wrote:
 Do we have stats for flash player 9 penetration yet?
 Has Adobe turned on the auto-update for flash 9 player yet?  If not... when?
 Do we have stats for when Adobe turned on auto-update for flash 8
 player? What was the adoption rate before and after it was turned on?

Adobe Flash Player 9 entered general public distribution at the end of June:
http://weblogs.macromedia.com/emmy/archives/2006/06/a_pocket_guide.cfm

It did not fall within the most recent consumer audit:
http://weblogs.macromedia.com/emmy/archives/2006/08/flash_player_8_1.cfm

The daily rate of successful installations indicates that we're likely 
close to an astounding 50% consumer viewability already:
http://blog.digitalbackcountry.com/?p=498

I don't know the auto-update date offhand, but it has contributed to the 
above results.

FP9 adoption is freakin' fast, that's the long and short of it. ;-)

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Re: [flexcoders] Stats on flash player 9 penetration.

2006-09-29 Thread Clint Modien



50% in3 months are you kidding? That's insane.

Thanks John... 

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Clint Modien wrote: Do we have stats for flash player 9 penetration yet? Has Adobe turned on the auto-update for flash 9 player yet? If not... when? Do we have stats for when Adobe turned on auto-update for flash 8
 player? What was the adoption rate before and after it was turned on?Adobe Flash Player 9 entered general public distribution at the end of June:
http://weblogs.macromedia.com/emmy/archives/2006/06/a_pocket_guide.cfmIt did not fall within the most recent consumer audit:
http://weblogs.macromedia.com/emmy/archives/2006/08/flash_player_8_1.cfmThe daily rate of successful installations indicates that we're likely close to an astounding 50% consumer viewability already:
http://blog.digitalbackcountry.com/?p=498I don't know the auto-update date offhand, but it has contributed to the above results.FP9 adoption is freakin' fast, that's the long and short of it. ;-)
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Re: [flexcoders] Stats on flash player 9 penetration.

2006-09-29 Thread John Dowdell
Clint Modien wrote:
 50% in 3 months are you kidding?  That's insane.

I'm glad you share my sense of insanity ;-)

But these early projections seem plausible... Flash Player 8 reached 85% 
consumer viewability in nine months of distribution, and the daily 
installation rates for FP9 are just as high.

High-profile sites moved to FP8 pretty quickly, mostly for the new video 
codec, and now all those upgrade prompts have been pushing people to the 
current Player. The application designers are getting a boost from the 
video houses here.

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