RE: [flexcoders] Gartner's Take on Rich Internet Applications
Title: Gartners Take on Rich Internet Technology Oh I see. Thats a very blurry line created by the broadcast just like you said. Especially with the topic Gartners take on RIA J When I saw sample screen shots of Nexaweb applications I was not in the least impressed as when I saw flex applications. Thanks for shedding more light David. Regards From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Mendels Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 1:27 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Gartner's Take on Rich Internet Applications Hi, Gartner did not select Nexaweb over Flex. Gartner has not done such a report. I have met many times with Gartner and they are quite excited about FlexI am confident that when and if they do their trademark Gartner Magic Quadrent for this category we will be in a very strong position. Gartner did do a recent report on RIA. It was very much informed by Macromedia's perspective, but it was vendor neutral and did not rate or rank any specific vendors in the space--it spoke at a higher level about the category. I have no idea what they think of Nexaweb because as far as I know they have never published a report with such information. To help you parse what you are seeing in this invitation, the way this typically works,this isa commercial seminar by Nexaweb where they have paid Gartner to speak to the topic of RIA. I expect in this Gartner will cover the key points of their recent paper. I haven't seen it specifically and I don't work for Nexaweb or Gartner, but I do know how these things typically work (Macromedia also has hired analyst firms such as Gartner to speak at seminars). Gartner is actually a solid firm (I would not say this about the industry analyst catagory in general) I would be very surprised if they are specifically endorsing a vendor here in the content they present or if they are changing their views based on being paid by a vendor. However, what they do allow is to be used as an industry expert by a vendor. This creates a blurry line in my mind where it can appear that they are specifically endorsing that vendor over another, when in reality they are simply providing industry expertise within a forum. -David Macromedia From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tolulope Olonade Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 4:12 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Gartner's Take on Rich Internet Applications Whats all the hype about NEXAWEB.? Has anybody seen solutions implemented using the tech? How does it stack against FLEX? Why did Gartner select over Flex? Can somebody shed more light ? From: Nexaweb Technologies, Inc. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 7:24 PM To: Tolulope Olonade Subject: Gartner's Take on Rich Internet Applications You are receiving this invitation because you have shown interest in Nexaweb products or technology. If you do not wish to receive future invitations to Nexaweb Webinars, click here: [EMAIL PROTECTED]. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Computer software testing Macromedia flex Development Software developer -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Computer software testing Macromedia flex Development Software developer -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [flexcoders] Gartner's Take on Rich Internet Applications
Title: Gartners Take on Rich Internet Technology Ive gone quite deep on Nexaweb technologies(late last year). I believe it has its placeparticularly where heavy client processing and performance is required. I believe that to be a much smaller market than what Flex is addressing. Another key point was front end development...Involving designers at any stage appeared to be infinitely more complex. Youre not all that shielded from the complexities of the architecture. Cheers, Stace From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tolulope Olonade Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 9:17 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Gartner's Take on Rich Internet Applications Oh I see. Thats a very blurry line created by the broadcast just like you said. Especially with the topic Gartners take on RIA J When I saw sample screen shots of Nexaweb applications I was not in the least impressed as when I saw flex applications. Thanks for shedding more light David. Regards From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Mendels Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 1:27 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Gartner's Take on Rich Internet Applications Hi, Gartner did not select Nexaweb over Flex. Gartner has not done such a report. I have met many times with Gartner and they are quite excited about FlexI am confident that when and if they do their trademark Gartner Magic Quadrent for this category we will be in a very strong position. Gartner did do a recent report on RIA. It was very much informed by Macromedia's perspective, but it was vendor neutral and did not rate or rank any specific vendors in the space--it spoke at a higher level about the category. I have no idea what they think of Nexaweb because as far as I know they have never published a report with such information. To help you parse what you are seeing in this invitation, the way this typically works,this isa commercial seminar by Nexaweb where they have paid Gartner to speak to the topic of RIA. I expect in this Gartner will cover the key points of their recent paper. I haven't seen it specifically and I don't work for Nexaweb or Gartner, but I do know how these things typically work (Macromedia also has hired analyst firms such as Gartner to speak at seminars). Gartner is actually a solid firm (I would not say this about the industry analyst catagory in general) I would be very surprised if they are specifically endorsing a vendor here in the content they present or if they are changing their views based on being paid by a vendor. However, what they do allow is to be used as an industry expert by a vendor. This creates a blurry line in my mind where it can appear that they are specifically endorsing that vendor over another, when in reality they are simply providing industry expertise within a forum. -David Macromedia From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tolulope Olonade Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 4:12 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Gartner's Take on Rich Internet Applications Whats all the hype about NEXAWEB.? Has anybody seen solutions implemented using the tech? How does it stack against FLEX? Why did Gartner select over Flex? Can somebody shed more light ? From: Nexaweb Technologies, Inc. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 7:24 PM To: Tolulope Olonade Subject: Gartner's Take on Rich Internet Applications You are receiving this invitation because you have shown interest in Nexaweb products or technology. If you do not wish to receive future invitations to Nexaweb Webinars, click here: [EMAIL PROTECTED]. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Computer software testing Macromedia flex Development Software developer -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Computer software testing Macromedia flex Development Software developer -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, sen
Re: [flexcoders] Gartner's Take on Rich Internet Applications
On Fri, 08 Jul 2005, Sjors Pals wrote: Its funny that these kind of products are considered as RIA's since the only Internet thing about it that you run a plugin in a browser window :-\ You mean, in the same way you run Flex apps :-) /Jeppe -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Gartner's Take on Rich Internet Applications
Its no hype, as far as i read its hard to implement and it uses there own runtimes. I don't think this product is really suitable for internet apps, but more a replacement for traditional desktop applications. Its funny that these kind of products are considered as RIA's since the only Internet thing about it that you run a plugin in a browser window :-\ I think this product might be a replacement for tradional Windows applications on the office, but no competitor in the real RIA market (flex,laszlo,backbase,etc) I think its just a marketing strategy to call this product a RIA Software Platform, imho there is no place in the market for a product that uses there own runtimes in the browser, little bit same story as General Interface Objects and Facado. Greets, Sjors Pals Tolulope Olonade wrote: Whats all the hype about NEXAWEB.? Has anybody seen solutions implemented using the tech? How does it stack against FLEX? Why did Gartner select over Flex? Can somebody shed more light ? *From:* Nexaweb Technologies, Inc. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, July 07, 2005 7:24 PM *To:* Tolulope Olonade *Subject:* Gartner's Take on Rich Internet Applications You are receiving this invitation because you have shown interest in Nexaweb products or technology. If you do not wish to receive future invitations to Nexaweb Webinars, click here: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. You’re invited to attend a Nexaweb Webinar featuring Gartner analyst Mark Driver. The Webinar Title is: Gartner's Take on Rich Internet Applications: Enterprise Case Studies Rich Internet Application (RIA) technology has been identified as one of the major software trends for 2005. Register for this webcast to hear Gartner’s perspective on current RIA dynamics and what you can expect from its evolution. Get insight into which business and technical challenges RIA can solve and the technical features that are critical to the success of RIA solutions. This webcast will also feature real-world case studies that highlight innovative enterprises that employ RIA technology. Register today! You will: * Understand the key business benefits RIA currently offers * Discover the critical features of a complete RIA solution * Hear how Fortune 1000 companies are taking advantage of the strong return on investment that RIA provides Speakers: Mark Driver is Vice President and Research Director at Gartner, Scott Cranton is Director of Product Strategy at Nexaweb Technologies, Inc. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Computer software testing http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Computer+software+testingw1=Computer+software+testingw2=Macromedia+flexw3=Developmentw4=Software+developerc=4s=93.sig=kh2CguJwmatU5oBXjFo9Rg http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Computer+software+testingw1=Computer+software+testingw2=Macromedia+flexw3=Developmentw4=Software+developerc=4s=93.sig=kh2CguJwmatU5oBXjFo9Rg Macromedia flex http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Macromedia+flexw1=Computer+software+testingw2=Macromedia+flexw3=Developmentw4=Software+developerc=4s=93.sig=dAUcEV7do91-wrRtVS641g http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Macromedia+flexw1=Computer+software+testingw2=Macromedia+flexw3=Developmentw4=Software+developerc=4s=93.sig=dAUcEV7do91-wrRtVS641g Development http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Developmentw1=Computer+software+testingw2=Macromedia+flexw3=Developmentw4=Software+developerc=4s=93.sig=AlxNUQBOI7Io7S7nhmxV0Q http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Developmentw1=Computer+software+testingw2=Macromedia+flexw3=Developmentw4=Software+developerc=4s=93.sig=AlxNUQBOI7Io7S7nhmxV0Q Software developer http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Software+developerw1=Computer+software+testingw2=Macromedia+flexw3=Developmentw4=Software+developerc=4s=93.sig=QWIit8JayomoIHLVkV3FDg http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Software+developerw1=Computer+software+testingw2=Macromedia+flexw3=Developmentw4=Software+developerc=4s=93.sig=QWIit8JayomoIHLVkV3FDg YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group flexcoders http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links *
RE: [flexcoders] Gartner's Take on Rich Internet Applications
Title: Gartners Take on Rich Internet Technology Hi, Gartner did not select Nexaweb over Flex. Gartner has not done such a report. I have met many times with Gartner and they are quite excited about FlexI am confident that when and if they do their trademark Gartner Magic Quadrent for this category we will be in a very strong position. Gartner did do a recent report on RIA. It was very much informed by Macromedia's perspective, but it was vendor neutral and did not rate or rank any specific vendors in the space--it spoke at a higher level about the category. I have no idea what they think of Nexaweb because as far as I know they have never published a report with such information. To help you parse what you are seeing in this invitation, the way this typically works,this isa commercial seminar by Nexaweb where they have paid Gartner to speak to the topic of RIA. I expect in this Gartner will cover the key points of their recent paper. I haven't seen it specifically and I don't work for Nexaweb or Gartner, but I do know how these things typically work (Macromedia also has hired analyst firms such as Gartner to speak at seminars). Gartner is actually a solid firm (I would not say this about the industry analyst catagory in general) I would be very surprised if they are specifically endorsing a vendor here in the content they present or if they are changing their views based on being paid by a vendor. However, what they do allow is to be used as an industry expert by a vendor. This creates a blurry line in my mind where it can appear that they are specifically endorsing that vendor over another, when in reality they are simply providing industry expertise within a forum. -David Macromedia From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tolulope OlonadeSent: Friday, July 08, 2005 4:12 AMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: [flexcoders] Gartner's Take on Rich Internet Applications Whats all the hype about NEXAWEB.? Has anybody seen solutions implemented using the tech? How does it stack against FLEX? Why did Gartner select over Flex? Can somebody shed more light ? From: Nexaweb Technologies, Inc. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 7:24 PMTo: Tolulope OlonadeSubject: Gartner's Take on Rich Internet Applications You are receiving this invitation because you have shown interest in Nexaweb products or technology.If you do not wish to receive future invitations to Nexaweb Webinars, click here: [EMAIL PROTECTED]. --Flexcoders Mailing ListFAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txtSearch Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Computer software testing Macromedia flex Development Software developer -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Computer software testing Macromedia flex Development Software developer YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
