Re: [flexcoders] Re: Implementing Office 2007 menus
On Tuesday 19 Feb 2008, Paul Decoursey wrote: For losers like me that have no idea what Office 2007 is like, are there any real world examples that we can experience this with that won't cost us our children? The license PDF has many pictures. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to conveniently architect scalable web-readiness on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at Halliwells LLP, 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by The Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Implementing Office 2007 menus
On Feb 20, 2008 12:02 PM, Glenn Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to say, I find the ribbon bar a joy to use. there was very small adoption time, and I actually now work faster in office than ever before. This really is (imho) something Microsoft UI team has got exactly right. It's not just the UI but how passes selections back to the application (every option, in word for example, when hovered over is instantly translated onto your document allowing fast previews before making a selection. wonderful stuff. Also, it's not just a matter of copying as some have said. We should always try to take whats best out there and give it our personal slant. As for licensing, well whats the problem? Yes, I prefer OSource or open spec products (PDF for example), but not every product benefits from this kind of use agreement. And at the end of the day it costs nothing to read the specs and see what can be gained. I have also thought about creating a take on the Ribbon, simply because its such an effective UI. More the principal than the exact implementation is whats important. IMO, if there's a 120 page document discussing the use and ideology behind this UI then I think everyone should read it, if nothing else just to get an insight into what is an effect piece of design. (that goes for all tech documents that we can gain insight and knowledge from) hope that didnt sound like a rant, I just think people should keep an open mind, especially where MS are concerned. It's just to easy to know them (ok, they are hateful agreed, but must get it right every now and then) I totally agree with you.
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Implementing Office 2007 menus
On Wednesday 20 Feb 2008, Glenn Williams wrote: I have to say, I find the ribbon bar a joy to use. I think it eats too much space, and looks cluttered on small displays (like what users have). I'm reading their PDF anyway. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to seamlessly promote value-added markets on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at Halliwells LLP, 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by The Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Implementing Office 2007 menus
When you sit down to write a Flex application, do you start everything from scratch? OR do you reference old code you wrote, documentation samples, maybe some blog samples? If you create an interface, wouldn't you want to examine what people had done in the past, and whether it was successful or not? I've never used Office 2007 (yet), but I have used a piece of software that 'borrowed/copied/licensed' the Ribbon concept; and I thought it was rather elegant. Starting anything From scratch is extremely rare I suspect. lytvynyuk wrote: What is the point to copy?! What about to create something yourself? --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com, Fidel Viegas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello folks, I am trying to implement the Office 2007 menus, and I am trying to imagine what sort of Containers to use. So far, I have figured that I am going to use TabNavigator for the headings, but what sort of container would I use for the groups of buttons? Could it be Panels? I found this thing implemented in Mindomo. Does anyone have an idea how he created the menus? Thanks in advance, Fidel. -- Jeffry Houser Flex, ColdFusion, AIR AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- Adobe Community Expert http://www.adobe.com/communities/experts/members/JeffryHouser.html My Company: http://www.dot-com-it.com My Podcast: http://www.theflexshow.com My Blog: http://www.jeffryhouser.com
RE: [flexcoders] Re: Implementing Office 2007 menus
I actually really like the new Office 2007 UI, FWIW. Easier to find stuff I think. Jason Merrill Bank of America GTO LLD Solutions Design Development eTools Multimedia Bank of America Flash Platform Developer Community Interested in innovative ideas in Learning? Check out the GTO Innovative Learning Blog http://sharepoint.bankofamerica.com/sites/ddc/rd/blog/default.aspx and subscribe http://sharepoint.bankofamerica.com/sites/ddc/rd/blog/_layouts/SubNew.a spx?List=%7B41BD3FC9%2DBB07%2D4763%2DB3AB%2DA6C7C99C5B8D%7DSource=http% 3A%2F%2Fsharepoint%2Ebankofamerica%2Ecom%2Fsites%2Fddc%2Frd%2Fblog%2FLis ts%2FPosts%2FArchive%2Easpx .
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Implementing Office 2007 menus
On Feb 19, 2008 8:15 PM, lytvynyuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the point to copy?! What about to create something yourself? When I first started using Office 2007, I didn't really like it. But, now that I am used to it, I kind of like it, and I wanted to replicate it. First, because I learn more about how to implement stuff in Flex, and second because I would create something cute. But, after reading all those licenses, I decided that I will create something which does not need licensing. I have started working on something with our designer, and let's see what we can come up with. It is always good to reference other people's material. You can extract a few ideas that may end up generating other ideas. Anyway, I think this topic has become really hot, and very interesting to know other people's views with regards to the office 2007 menus. Thank you all for the suggestions and warnings. Fidel.
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Implementing Office 2007 menus
For losers like me that have no idea what Office 2007 is like, are there any real world examples that we can experience this with that won't cost us our children? On Feb 19, 2008, at 3:45 PM, Fidel Viegas wrote: On Feb 19, 2008 8:15 PM, lytvynyuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the point to copy?! What about to create something yourself? When I first started using Office 2007, I didn't really like it. But, now that I am used to it, I kind of like it, and I wanted to replicate it. First, because I learn more about how to implement stuff in Flex, and second because I would create something cute. But, after reading all those licenses, I decided that I will create something which does not need licensing. I have started working on something with our designer, and let's see what we can come up with. It is always good to reference other people's material. You can extract a few ideas that may end up generating other ideas. Anyway, I think this topic has become really hot, and very interesting to know other people's views with regards to the office 2007 menus. Thank you all for the suggestions and warnings. Fidel. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Implementing Office 2007 menus
Have a look at www.mindomo.com That mimics the office 2007 menu. On Feb 19, 2008 10:49 PM, Paul Decoursey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For losers like me that have no idea what Office 2007 is like, are there any real world examples that we can experience this with that won't cost us our children? On Feb 19, 2008, at 3:45 PM, Fidel Viegas wrote: On Feb 19, 2008 8:15 PM, lytvynyuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the point to copy?! What about to create something yourself? When I first started using Office 2007, I didn't really like it. But, now that I am used to it, I kind of like it, and I wanted to replicate it. First, because I learn more about how to implement stuff in Flex, and second because I would create something cute. But, after reading all those licenses, I decided that I will create something which does not need licensing. I have started working on something with our designer, and let's see what we can come up with. It is always good to reference other people's material. You can extract a few ideas that may end up generating other ideas. Anyway, I think this topic has become really hot, and very interesting to know other people's views with regards to the office 2007 menus. Thank you all for the suggestions and warnings. Fidel. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links
