Re: [Flexradio] New Noise Blanker and Console Size
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Re: [Flexradio] New Noise Blanker and Console Size
We have something like this in mind for the new architecture. The point is to separate the various components of the radio so they can be used in whatever format the customer would like. Clearly we have to realize this abstract approach in the official console. However, I would expect to see many more flavors of consoles once we adopt a more friendly architecture. Hence the current efforts. J Eric Wachsmann FlexRadio Systems -Original Message- From: ab7r [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 6:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Dave Nancy Ridge'; FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz Subject: RE: [Flexradio] New Noise Blanker and Console Size I just had a good idea I think. May be the last one of the year though...hihi. Ready E? For use with contesting and logging programs to ease up on the screen clutter.how about making the panadapter (or whatever mode chosen) detachable from the rest of the console. When in Search and pounce, I mainly used that for tuning and go back and forth between that and the logger. So make your settings and detach the display and minimize the rest of the console. Maybe the same for the meters too. This would be great! IMHO. Greg AB7R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Eric Wachsmann - FlexRadio Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 11:23 AM To: 'Dave Nancy Ridge'; FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] New Noise Blanker and Console Size I can speak to the second question. The PowerSDR console was designed so that the whole console could be seen when running in an 800x600 resolution. This was mainly to help those with vision impairments, but this was also the standard until only a year or two ago. Today, 1024x768 is more of the standard, and even that is becoming small for many users today. We have tried playing with the console to make it resizable, but initial testing proved that the built in .NET features for resizing a control were somewhat lacking. The work involved in getting a single control to look correct at various resolution/size/DPI was astounding. For this reason, we have left the PowerSDR at the locked original size. Clearly going forward, a larger display (among other form related features) will be considered in future designs. Eric Wachsmann FlexRadio Systems -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Nancy Ridge Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 12:49 PM To: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] New Noise Blanker and Console Size The present Noise Blanker works great. I had read many weeks ago that Alex had a killer noise blanker in the Rocky software. My question is, will it be added to the PowerSDR softwaresometime in the future? Also, this may have been asked and answered sometime in the past but, why is the PowerSDR console size not able to be madefull screen size? Again thanks for a great radio. It just keeps getting better! Dave, W9DR, Punta Gorda, Florida
Re: [Flexradio] New Noise Blanker and Console Size
This is possible given that we have the source for the ShuttlePro driver (or at least an API that it talks to). However, no one has taken that and built what you are suggesting yet (to my knowledge). Using the default software, I have not found a way to make this work. Eric Wachsmann FlexRadio Systems -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] radio.biz] On Behalf Of Lee A Crocker Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 12:12 PM To: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] New Noise Blanker and Console Size Is it possible to set up the USB controller such as the shuttle pro so that it is exclusively active with the SDR software regardless of what window is the active focus? The controller being active in the background would give a lot of control and then you could decrease what is displayed. 73 W9OY ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz
Re: [Flexradio] New Noise Blanker and Console Size
Of course, there is also the possibility of the and option. Today, the Flexradio software is a radio. Tomorrow, why can't it also have provision for plug-ins for contesting, logging or QRZ.com lookups? It doesn't have to be an either/or discussion. It's just software. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Ellison Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 10:25 PM To: Lyle Johnson; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] New Noise Blanker and Console Size Playing Devil's advocate cuts both ways. A counter-point is needed. First off, I'd never think about running Windoze on my Yawoocom. :-) Even with traditional radios these days, the PC is an integral part of operating. Not critical as it is with a SDR, but still a very important part. I have to disagree with your statement Most folks don't, and leverage an existing PC into being the radio as well as the PC. Or buy a new PC for the SDR-1000 and leverage it into being their shack computer as well. I contend most do. Those who can, will buy a new machine that should be able do it all. Those who can't, will make do with what they have and not want to for go exciting things like digital modes, contest software and Internet access at the expense of just having a radio. As a new SDR user, I bought a new PC specifically with the SDR in mind, but in this world of multitasking multicore multiprocessors it would never occur to me to use a PC for a single function unless it was a mission critical business app, such as e-mail or a database server. With processor power going up and prices staying about the same or even going down, you can get yourself a very powerful machine for about a grand and a half. And to be just as fair, why *should* I have to use a dedicated machine. I am only maxing out 15% CPU utilization with the one I have now. What a waste of a lot of good and resources. I specifically want to run multiple apps on the same machine as the SDR1K. We do that today for those who are using digital modes. I couldn't live without having a logger and an Internet based call lookup running at the same time along with e-mail so I can get the very latest scoop from the Flex-Radio reflector. Call me selfish, but after graduating from DOS 14 years ago, I really don't have any great desire to go back to a single tasking way of life. Yes, something does have to give as you say. That would have to be the single tasking, monolithic computing paradigm that you are wanting us to revert back to by throwing dedicated hardware at the SDR challenge. Sorry can't do that here. The SDR desktop will be a point of contention for a long time to come. And that is a good thing. Obviously it will get better. Much better. There are a lot of different ways to optimize the GUI. Using tabs and layered screens is just one way to increase real estate without resorting to increasing the footprint. This is an area where development should not be stymied just because it is easier to buy more monitors. At some point you are going to run out of desktop real estate to put all those monitors. I would hope that just because it is easy to fix a problem by throwing more hardware at it, that doesn't become the way out. If so, innovation dies. And as far as I can tell, that is not what the developers here have been doing. If the DSP and FFT code runs slow, they find better libraries, use advanced features of the processor and optimize routines, not tell you to by more machine. I certainly hope we don't start taking steps backwards. I am looking forward to the new PowerSDR architecture and the possibilities it brings. That is the reason I and many others invested in this technology -Tim --- Tim Ellison ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) Integrated Technical Services ( http://www.itsco.com ) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lyle Johnson Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 6:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] New Noise Blanker and Console Size Whatever you do, please don't assume we can dedicate the machine to the SDR console. We already aren't. Why not? Just to play Devil's advocate, let's assume you were using a traditional radio with a front panel, knobs and controls. It has a PC interface, and you run your MixW, logger, DX spotter, whatever on the PC. Life is good. You add the SDR-1000 to the mix, the PC display is crowded. But what if you tried to add the logger, MixW etc. onto your old radio's front panel and not use the PC display? Make the radio display all the PC screen information? It wouldn't fit! Even if the radio is an FTdx9000 or IC-7800. The problem is that the PC is now a *part* of the radio, and the SDR-1000 is *part* the radio. Many people think of the SDR-1000 as being the radio; it's not. It's only half of the radio. To be fair, you should be using
Re: [Flexradio] New Noise Blanker and Console Size
Never intended it to be an either or discussion; just a different point of view to add to the discourse. In fact in an off list e-mail Lyle and I discovered we really agree on about 99% of what both of us said. Go figure. Plug-in are an option, but anything that creates a bigger footprint on the 1280 X 1024 landscape is, IMHO, going in the wrong direction. An extensible gui is going in the right direction. In all my involvement with software development, the gui is ALWAYS the point of the most contention. It is one aspect of development that you never get right. You just get close. -Tim --- Tim Ellison ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) Integrated Technical Services ( http://www.itsco.com ) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Amos Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 5:54 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] New Noise Blanker and Console Size Of course, there is also the possibility of the and option. Today, the Flexradio software is a radio. Tomorrow, why can't it also have provision for plug-ins for contesting, logging or QRZ.com lookups? It doesn't have to be an either/or discussion. It's just software. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Ellison Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 10:25 PM To: Lyle Johnson; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] New Noise Blanker and Console Size Playing Devil's advocate cuts both ways. A counter-point is needed. First off, I'd never think about running Windoze on my Yawoocom. :-) Even with traditional radios these days, the PC is an integral part of operating. Not critical as it is with a SDR, but still a very important part. I have to disagree with your statement Most folks don't, and leverage an existing PC into being the radio as well as the PC. Or buy a new PC for the SDR-1000 and leverage it into being their shack computer as well. I contend most do. Those who can, will buy a new machine that should be able do it all. Those who can't, will make do with what they have and not want to for go exciting things like digital modes, contest software and Internet access at the expense of just having a radio. As a new SDR user, I bought a new PC specifically with the SDR in mind, but in this world of multitasking multicore multiprocessors it would never occur to me to use a PC for a single function unless it was a mission critical business app, such as e-mail or a database server. With processor power going up and prices staying about the same or even going down, you can get yourself a very powerful machine for about a grand and a half. And to be just as fair, why *should* I have to use a dedicated machine. I am only maxing out 15% CPU utilization with the one I have now. What a waste of a lot of good and resources. I specifically want to run multiple apps on the same machine as the SDR1K. We do that today for those who are using digital modes. I couldn't live without having a logger and an Internet based call lookup running at the same time along with e-mail so I can get the very latest scoop from the Flex-Radio reflector. Call me selfish, but after graduating from DOS 14 years ago, I really don't have any great desire to go back to a single tasking way of life. Yes, something does have to give as you say. That would have to be the single tasking, monolithic computing paradigm that you are wanting us to revert back to by throwing dedicated hardware at the SDR challenge. Sorry can't do that here. The SDR desktop will be a point of contention for a long time to come. And that is a good thing. Obviously it will get better. Much better. There are a lot of different ways to optimize the GUI. Using tabs and layered screens is just one way to increase real estate without resorting to increasing the footprint. This is an area where development should not be stymied just because it is easier to buy more monitors. At some point you are going to run out of desktop real estate to put all those monitors. I would hope that just because it is easy to fix a problem by throwing more hardware at it, that doesn't become the way out. If so, innovation dies. And as far as I can tell, that is not what the developers here have been doing. If the DSP and FFT code runs slow, they find better libraries, use advanced features of the processor and optimize routines, not tell you to by more machine. I certainly hope we don't start taking steps backwards. I am looking forward to the new PowerSDR architecture and the possibilities it brings. That is the reason I and many others invested in this technology -Tim --- Tim Ellison ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) Integrated Technical Services ( http://www.itsco.com ) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lyle Johnson Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 6:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
[Flexradio] New Noise Blanker and Console Size
The present Noise Blanker works great. I had read many weeks ago that Alex had a "killer" noise blanker in the "Rocky" software. My question is, will it be added to the PowerSDR softwaresometime in the future? Also, this may have been asked and answered sometime in the past but, why is the PowerSDR console size not able to be madefull screen size? Again thanks for a great radio. It "just keeps getting better!" Dave, W9DR, Punta Gorda, Florida
Re: [Flexradio] New Noise Blanker and Console Size
I can speak to the second question. The PowerSDR console was designed so that the whole console could be seen when running in an 800x600 resolution. This was mainly to help those with vision impairments, but this was also the standard until only a year or two ago. Today, 1024x768 is more of the standard, and even that is becoming small for many users today. We have tried playing with the console to make it resizable, but initial testing proved that the built in .NET features for resizing a control were somewhat lacking. The work involved in getting a single control to look correct at various resolution/size/DPI was astounding. For this reason, we have left the PowerSDR at the locked original size. Clearly going forward, a larger display (among other form related features) will be considered in future designs. Eric Wachsmann FlexRadio Systems -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Nancy Ridge Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 12:49 PM To: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] New Noise Blanker and Console Size The present Noise Blanker works great. I had read many weeks ago that Alex had a killer noise blanker in the Rocky software. My question is, will it be added to the PowerSDR softwaresometime in the future? Also, this may have been asked and answered sometime in the past but, why is the PowerSDR console size not able to be madefull screen size? Again thanks for a great radio. It just keeps getting better! Dave, W9DR, Punta Gorda, Florida
Re: [Flexradio] New Noise Blanker and Console Size
Clearly going forward, a larger display (among other form related features) will be considered in future designs. The existing SDR display is already too large when running with a contesting or logging program. A resizable screen would be the preferred solution. 73 Terry - AB5K - Original Message - From: Eric Wachsmann - FlexRadio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Dave Nancy Ridge' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [Flexradio] New Noise Blanker and Console Size I can speak to the second question. The PowerSDR console was designed so that the whole console could be seen when running in an 800x600 resolution. This was mainly to help those with vision impairments, but this was also the standard until only a year or two ago. Today, 1024x768 is more of the standard, and even that is becoming small for many users today. We have tried playing with the console to make it resizable, but initial testing proved that the built in .NET features for resizing a control were somewhat lacking. The work involved in getting a single control to look correct at various resolution/size/DPI was astounding. For this reason, we have left the PowerSDR at the locked original size. Clearly going forward, a larger display (among other form related features) will be considered in future designs. Eric Wachsmann FlexRadio Systems -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Nancy Ridge Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 12:49 PM To: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] New Noise Blanker and Console Size The present Noise Blanker works great. I had read many weeks ago that Alex had a killer noise blanker in the Rocky software. My question is, will it be added to the PowerSDR software sometime in the future? Also, this may have been asked and answered sometime in the past but, why is the PowerSDR console size not able to be made full screen size? Again thanks for a great radio. It just keeps getting better! Dave, W9DR, Punta Gorda, Florida ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz
Re: [Flexradio] New Noise Blanker and Console Size
Clearly going forward, a larger display (among other form related features) will be considered in future designs. The existing SDR display is already too large when running with a contesting or logging program. A resizable screen would be the preferred solution. 73 Terry - AB5K An alternate solution might be to park the console display into the tray (so it is more than merely minimized). I don't know what, if any, functional enhancements would be needed to make that realistic, but if the CAT command set is complete enough, this might be enough and so would allow the display size to not be constrained by contesting -- or even MixW RTTY ragchewing. Larry WO0Z
Re: [Flexradio] New Noise Blanker and Console Size
I can speak to the second question. The PowerSDR console was designed so that the whole console could be seen when running in an 800x600 resolution. This was mainly to help those with vision impairments, but this was also the standard until only a year or two ago. Today, 1024x768 is more of the standard, and even that is becoming small for many users today. Unless you can come up with a variant for parking the display into the system tray that really works for contesting, MixW et. al., this is not really going to be a good solution for many of us. I already have three basic displays that I use for my 80m DX quest. I have the Power SDR console. I have the regular MixW display for logging, primarily. I have the MixW DX cluster display up. That's minimum. I also often have a browser running so I can do immediate QSL lookups of interesting calls. I'm running 1280 x 1024 and I find today's setup marginal. For ordinary DXing, never mind contesting. Moreover, I suspect that as our direction seems to be [i]toward[/i] third party code for a variety of functions, that there is nothing atypical about what I'm doing today that everyone won't be doing tomorrow. Whatever you do, please don't assume we can dedicate the machine to the SDR console. We already aren't. Larry WO0Z
Re: [Flexradio] New Noise Blanker and Console Size
What about minimizing the main screen into the system tray, but leave a mini display that contains frequency display, tuning controls and meters? -Tim --- Tim Ellison ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) Integrated Technical Services ( http://www.itsco.com ) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 5:59 PM To: Terry Gerdes Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] New Noise Blanker and Console Size Clearly going forward, a larger display (among other form related features) will be considered in future designs. The existing SDR display is already too large when running with a contesting or logging program. A resizable screen would be the preferred solution. 73 Terry - AB5K An alternate solution might be to park the console display into the tray (so it is more than merely minimized). I don't know what, if any, functional enhancements would be needed to make that realistic, but if the CAT command set is complete enough, this might be enough and so would allow the display size to not be constrained by contesting -- or even MixW RTTY ragchewing. Larry WO0Z ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz
Re: [Flexradio] New Noise Blanker and Console Size
Whatever you do, please don't assume we can dedicate the machine to the SDR console. We already aren't. Why not? Just to play Devil's advocate, let's assume you were using a traditional radio with a front panel, knobs and controls. It has a PC interface, and you run your MixW, logger, DX spotter, whatever on the PC. Life is good. You add the SDR-1000 to the mix, the PC display is crowded. But what if you tried to add the logger, MixW etc. onto your old radio's front panel and not use the PC display? Make the radio display all the PC screen information? It wouldn't fit! Even if the radio is an FTdx9000 or IC-7800. The problem is that the PC is now a *part* of the radio, and the SDR-1000 is *part* the radio. Many people think of the SDR-1000 as being the radio; it's not. It's only half of the radio. To be fair, you should be using a *dedicated* PC for the SDR-1000. Most folks don't, and leverage an existing PC into being the radio as well as the PC. Or buy a new PC for the SDR-1000 and leverage it into being their shack computer as well. Something has to give. Modifying the SDR-1000 occupied screen real estate is a possible solution, but I bet there are as many opinions as to what should be kept and what shouldn't, as there are SDR-1000 owners. However, many PCs have video cards with two display connectors, or can accept such a video card. You can easily and inexpensively double your effective screen pixel count. I put two screens on my desktop PC because I needed the pixels. I had to replace the existing video card with a new one for $39 so it would accommodate two screens. I added a pair of 1600x1200 LCD displays, only because I could not find 1920x1200 displays for less than several hundred dollars each. If you use a desktop PC, you can add a second, usable LCD display for under $200 these days. If a laptop, most in the last few years have allowed the use of an external display that extends the desktop over both displays, so you can have the extra pixels work for you. It's no longer either/or. My next desktop PC (I keep telling myself) will have two physical video cards that can each drive two physical monitors, and I'll end up with four active displays. And wish I had more... Enjoy! Lyle KK7P
Re: [Flexradio] New Noise Blanker and Console Size
I will come with my 2c. I am seriously interested in contest operation mostly. I do not see how to operate the radio-SDR and contesting in same computer. You want to tune the radio write calls, key etc. and believe me there is no time to take care about switching active windows ! As I do believe the V31 operation of some gyus did show this nicely. So as for today situation i.e. tunig is done by USB device (again I can hardly imagine to use mouse only it is for playing around - serious operation is not possible that way) emulating keyboard - so to tune you MUST have SDR win active, to operate you MUST have logger window active. So forget one computer - you need to have TWO. OK - I can imagine some of you smart guys here will write dedicated driver for some of the USB gadgets or desing special one i.e. connect some optocoupler directly to a port and we might tune without SDR WIN active but until. Two monitors or even three with MATROX G750 are no solution. It is not money it simply does not work out to be usable for contesting or DX-pedition work - of course for casual operation or DX work it is fine - one computer+2monitors will do nicely. 73 ! Jiri OK1RI On Tue, 6 Dec 2005, Eric Wachsmann - FlexRadio wrote: This is essentially equivalent to just minimizing the current console. The only difference would be that the program would be in the tray rather than the program list. I'm confident that when we release the new console, many, perhaps even most users will be happy with it. Those that are not happy will at that point have much better leverage to create your own flavor of the console. So if you are not the coding type, make friends with a programming ham or two and start buttering them up. ;) Eric Wachsmann FlexRadio Systems -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 4:59 PM To: Terry Gerdes Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] New Noise Blanker and Console Size An alternate solution might be to park the console display into the tray --snip-- Larry WO0Z ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz
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Personally I like, and am considering the idea of having a dedicated PC for the SDR. But then how do you get it to talk to the other computer for telnet clusters...logging programs...digital programs...etc. Using the network card? Would need setup tab for that on the console? Greg AB7R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Philip Covington Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 4:01 PM To: Lyle Johnson Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] New Noise Blanker and Console Size On 12/6/05, Lyle Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whatever you do, please don't assume we can dedicate the machine to the SDR console. We already aren't. Why not? Just to play Devil's advocate, let's assume you were using a traditional radio with a front panel, knobs and controls. It has a PC interface, and you run your MixW, logger, DX spotter, whatever on the PC. Life is good. You add the SDR-1000 to the mix, the PC display is crowded. But what if you tried to add the logger, MixW etc. onto your old radio's front panel and not use the PC display? Make the radio display all the PC screen information? It wouldn't fit! Even if the radio is an FTdx9000 or IC-7800. The problem is that the PC is now a *part* of the radio, and the SDR-1000 is *part* the radio. Many people think of the SDR-1000 as being the radio; it's not. It's only half of the radio. To be fair, you should be using a *dedicated* PC for the SDR-1000. Most folks don't, and leverage an existing PC into being the radio as well as the PC. Or buy a new PC for the SDR-1000 and leverage it into being their shack computer as well. Something has to give. Modifying the SDR-1000 occupied screen real estate is a possible solution, but I bet there are as many opinions as to what should be kept and what shouldn't, as there are SDR-1000 owners. However, many PCs have video cards with two display connectors, or can accept such a video card. You can easily and inexpensively double your effective screen pixel count. I put two screens on my desktop PC because I needed the pixels. I had to replace the existing video card with a new one for $39 so it would accommodate two screens. I added a pair of 1600x1200 LCD displays, only because I could not find 1920x1200 displays for less than several hundred dollars each. If you use a desktop PC, you can add a second, usable LCD display for under $200 these days. If a laptop, most in the last few years have allowed the use of an external display that extends the desktop over both displays, so you can have the extra pixels work for you. It's no longer either/or. My next desktop PC (I keep telling myself) will have two physical video cards that can each drive two physical monitors, and I'll end up with four active displays. And wish I had more... Enjoy! Lyle KK7P My thoughts exactly, when reading this! With people shelling out the bux for a SDR-1000 w/ antenna tuner, 100 watt amp, transverters, $150 D44 sound card, 12 Volt power supply, etc... there should not be any squealing about purchasing an extra LCD monitor and video card for under $300. Imagine the Panadapter display when you can take advantage of ALL of a 1280x1024 (or larger) display... Phil N8VB ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz
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Greg Already been suggested Coming Yep. Internet connectivity is definitely a part of SDR, as is a lot of ham radio these days! January 1st is a NEW BUDGET YEAR! (smile) Eric From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of ab7r Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 7:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Dave Nancy Ridge'; FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] New Noise Blanker and Console Size I just had a good idea I think. May be the last one of the year though...hihi. Ready E? For use with contesting and logging programs to ease up on the screen clutter.how about making the panadapter (or whatever mode chosen) detachable from the rest of the console. When in Search and pounce, I mainly used that for tuning and go back and forth between that and the logger. So make your settings and detach the display and minimize the rest of the console. Maybe the same for the meters too. This would be great! IMHO. Greg AB7R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Eric Wachsmann - FlexRadio Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 11:23 AM To: 'Dave Nancy Ridge'; FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] New Noise Blanker and Console Size I can speak to the second question. The PowerSDR console was designed so that the whole console could be seen when running in an 800x600 resolution. This was mainly to help those with vision impairments, but this was also the standard until only a year or two ago. Today, 1024x768 is more of the standard, and even that is becoming small for many users today. We have tried playing with the console to make it resizable, but initial testing proved that the built in .NET features for resizing a control were somewhat lacking. The work involved in getting a single control to look correct at various resolution/size/DPI was astounding. For this reason, we have left the PowerSDR at the locked original size. Clearly going forward, a larger display (among other form related features) will be considered in future designs. Eric Wachsmann FlexRadio Systems -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dave Nancy Ridge Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 12:49 PM To: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] New Noise Blanker and Console Size The present Noise Blanker works great. I had read many weeks ago that Alex had a killer noise blanker in the Rocky software. My question is, will it be added to the PowerSDR softwaresometime in the future? Also, this may have been asked and answered sometime in the past but, why is the PowerSDR console size not able to be madefull screen size? Again thanks for a great radio. It just keeps getting better! Dave, W9DR, Punta Gorda, Florida
Re: [Flexradio] New Noise Blanker and Console Size
Jiri Sanda wrote: I will come with my 2c. I am seriously interested in contest operation mostly. I do not see how to operate the radio-SDR and contesting in same computer. Well, we did it in Belize and it worked just fine. In fact, I would argue better since there was only one keyboard to worry about. You want to tune the radio write calls, key etc. and believe me there is no time to take care about switching active windows ! Which is why the PowerSDR console needs to be in the tray. If the CAT command set is up to snuff, why do we need the console showing at all? The panadapter is very handy for getting mults, but when running, it isn't all that important. If I was doing a RTTY contest (which I haven't) it would be interesting to see if (say) the MixW waterfall was sufficient. If it was, would mean the SDR console sits in the tray pretty much the whole RTTY contest, at least, since the Panadapter function would be duplicated. As I do believe the V31 operation of some gyus did show this nicely. So as for today situation i.e. tunig is done by USB device (again I can hardly imagine to use mouse only it is for playing around - serious operation is not possible that way) emulating keyboard - so to tune you MUST have SDR win active, to operate you MUST have logger window active. So forget one computer - you need to have TWO. We did not have the USB tuning devices deployed. Turns out, simply clicking on the panadapter was all the tuning we required. (Clearly, my minimize to the tray mode is for running only). Having lived without it in a shack with limited space, I don't think I'd want to contest with the USB stuff. Less stuff is less complexity. We had too many wires as it was. Larry WO0Z
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ab7r wrote: I just had a good idea I think. May be the last one of the year though...hihi. Ready E? For use with contesting and logging programs to ease up on the screen clutter.how about making the panadapter (or whatever mode chosen) detachable from the rest of the console. When in Search and pounce, I mainly used that for tuning and go back and forth between that and the logger. So make your settings and detach the display and minimize the rest of the console. Maybe the same for the meters too. This would be great! IMHO. Greg AB7R That would be another good way to manage this stuff. Larry WO0Z
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Lyle Johnson wrote: ...Even with traditional radios these days, the PC is an integral part of operating. Not critical as it is with a SDR, but still a very important part. With the SDR-1000, the PC is part of the *radio* and not just a station convenience accessory, and one must take that into account when measuring the impact on computer resources (ports, CPU, memory, display real estate, ...). I can operate with no computer in the shack with my traditional radio. I can't operate my SDR-1000 without a PC, because most of the radio *is* the PC (which is different than saying that the radio consumes most of the PC)! I think this is the fundamental discussion. Is the PC the radio (and, implicitly, consumed by that function) or is it a PC controling a peripheral that happens, in this instance, to *be* a radio among the other tasks I'm asking of it. I've always thought of it as the latter. If you think of it that way, you're much, much less interested in a dedicated machine. Larry WO0Z
