Re: [Flexradio] Sub RX toggle Key and Sub RX Volume
There are two vertical sliders in the Sub RX section. The one on the left controls the Main RX volume while the one on the right controls the Sub RX volume. Note that these are not active unless the Sub RX is active. When it is active, the controls combine with the overall AF control (i.e. if you set the Main RX to mid and the Sub RX to mid and the AF to the mid point, you would get 25% (0.5*0.5) of the max audio output. Conceptually, the AF is an overall gain control in all cases. The other two controls are to enable you to manipulate the main/Sub RX audio independently when Sub RX is active. Eric Wachsmann FlexRadio Systems -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] radio.biz] On Behalf Of NU8Z Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 7:37 AM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Sub RX toggle Key and Sub RX Volume ...I'm running version 1.9.0 (803). In this version the Sub RX volume control in the Sub RX panel does not control the Sub RX volume. ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Sub RX toggle Key and Sub RX Volume
Joe, The problem with the having a single slider distribute the gains is that you need a calibration point to set equal gains on main and sub, or else a means to turn the distribution feature off. Otherwise you will spend an inordinate amount of time trying to balance the gains when you want near or precisely equal gains on both. I don't really see any advantages to distributing the gains; if there are some please tell me. The advantage of having precisely equal gains on both is to be able to measure signal strength on one and relate that to signal strength on the other when using third party software that uses a spectrum display, such as MixW. The feature of having two gain controls works now. The only hang up I have with the two gain controls is the main gain control is positioned under Sub receiver where the sub receiver gain control should be positioned under sub receiver. 73, Chas W1CG At 07:31 PM 1/5/2007, Joe - AB1DO wrote: Here's an alternative idea. How about a single slider that distributes the AF between Sub and Main RX. Kind of like an audio balance slider, but instead of balancing between L and R, balance between Sub and Main. Assuming equally strong Sub and Main RX signals, then: - Slide all the way to Main and you only hear Main - Slide all the way to Sub and you only hear Sub - Slide half way between Sub and Main and both are equally loud. Obviously, if Sub and Main have different signal strengths, then the mid point will be more towards the weaker of the two. Just a thought, 73 de Joe - AB1DO - Original Message - From: NU8Z [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 18:35 Subject: [Flexradio] Sub RX toggle Key and Sub RX Volume First, with regard to my original question regarding a keyboard entry to toggle the sub RX, I received a response from Henning (VK2CAP) . He stated that he uses the space bar. The space bar will toggle on and off the last button hit with the mouse. Hit the Sub RX button once with the mouse and it toggles the Sub RX nicely after that with the space bar. I tried it and it works great! Thanks Henning! Sub RX Volume Question: Now I have a question regarding the vertical slider in the Sub RX box. This now controls the Main RX volume. Would it not be better if it controled the SUB RX volume??? I think it would. We already have a volume control for the Main RX. What do others think? Best Regards Mark NU8Z -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.flex-radio.biz/pipermail/flexradio_flex-radio.biz/attachments/20070105/4c04cca4/attachment.html ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Sub RX toggle Key and Sub RX Volume
Hello All: As input comes in from other's, it is apparent that different folks use the dual receive function for different things and have different but equally important priorities for this features use. For myself, my priority is when working a DX pile up to be able to hear the stations that the DX is working when running split. I want the capability to be to control the ratio of Main RX and Sub RX volume. This volume ratio or distribution could vary depending on the size and amplitude of the pileup that the strength of the DX station. This could be accomplished by the Main/Sub balance slider method, or the use of two volume controls. One volume control for the Main RX and one for the Sub RX. In the interest of functionality and flexibility I guess I would favor the 2 volume control approach. I'm running version 1.9.0 (803). In this version the Sub RX volume control in the Sub RX panel does not control the Sub RX volume. If this were changed so that the Sub RX volume control actually controlled Sub RX volume, that would be great. If this revision was made, one could independently adjust the Main and Sub Rx audio outputs. I think this would allow Chas to do what he wanted to do with the digital modes, yet offer the flexibility for other uses, to include the working of DX. Just my 2 cents worth. Mark NU8Z -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Greene Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 7:30 AM To: Joe - AB1DO; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Sub RX toggle Key and Sub RX Volume Joe, The problem with the having a single slider distribute the gains is that you need a calibration point to set equal gains on main and sub, or else a means to turn the distribution feature off. Otherwise you will spend an inordinate amount of time trying to balance the gains when you want near or precisely equal gains on both. I don't really see any advantages to distributing the gains; if there are some please tell me. The advantage of having precisely equal gains on both is to be able to measure signal strength on one and relate that to signal strength on the other when using third party software that uses a spectrum display, such as MixW. The feature of having two gain controls works now. The only hang up I have with the two gain controls is the main gain control is positioned under Sub receiver where the sub receiver gain control should be positioned under sub receiver. 73, Chas W1CG At 07:31 PM 1/5/2007, Joe - AB1DO wrote: Here's an alternative idea. How about a single slider that distributes the AF between Sub and Main RX. Kind of like an audio balance slider, but instead of balancing between L and R, balance between Sub and Main. Assuming equally strong Sub and Main RX signals, then: - Slide all the way to Main and you only hear Main - Slide all the way to Sub and you only hear Sub - Slide half way between Sub and Main and both are equally loud. Obviously, if Sub and Main have different signal strengths, then the mid point will be more towards the weaker of the two. Just a thought, 73 de Joe - AB1DO - Original Message - From: NU8Z [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 18:35 Subject: [Flexradio] Sub RX toggle Key and Sub RX Volume First, with regard to my original question regarding a keyboard entry to toggle the sub RX, I received a response from Henning (VK2CAP) . He stated that he uses the space bar. The space bar will toggle on and off the last button hit with the mouse. Hit the Sub RX button once with the mouse and it toggles the Sub RX nicely after that with the space bar. I tried it and it works great! Thanks Henning! Sub RX Volume Question: Now I have a question regarding the vertical slider in the Sub RX box. This now controls the Main RX volume. Would it not be better if it controled the SUB RX volume??? I think it would. We already have a volume control for the Main RX. What do others think? Best Regards Mark NU8Z -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.flex-radio.biz/pipermail/flexradio_flex-radio.biz/attachme nts/20070105/4c04cca4/attachment.html ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com
Re: [Flexradio] Sub RX toggle Key and Sub RX Volume
Here's an alternative idea. How about a single slider that distributes the AF between Sub and Main RX. Kind of like an audio balance slider, but instead of balancing between L and R, balance between Sub and Main. Assuming equally strong Sub and Main RX signals, then: - Slide all the way to Main and you only hear Main - Slide all the way to Sub and you only hear Sub - Slide half way between Sub and Main and both are equally loud. Obviously, if Sub and Main have different signal strengths, then the mid point will be more towards the weaker of the two. Just a thought, 73 de Joe - AB1DO - Original Message - From: NU8Z [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 18:35 Subject: [Flexradio] Sub RX toggle Key and Sub RX Volume First, with regard to my original question regarding a keyboard entry to toggle the sub RX, I received a response from Henning (VK2CAP) . He stated that he uses the space bar. The space bar will toggle on and off the last button hit with the mouse. Hit the Sub RX button once with the mouse and it toggles the Sub RX nicely after that with the space bar. I tried it and it works great! Thanks Henning! Sub RX Volume Question: Now I have a question regarding the vertical slider in the Sub RX box. This now controls the Main RX volume. Would it not be better if it controled the SUB RX volume??? I think it would. We already have a volume control for the Main RX. What do others think? Best Regards Mark NU8Z -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.flex-radio.biz/pipermail/flexradio_flex-radio.biz/attachments/20070105/4c04cca4/attachment.html ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Sub RX toggle Key and Sub RX Volume
Joe, That is an excellent idea, and the application extends beyond the ham bands. I know I'd make regular use of the slider to chase down and identify parallel outlets in the broadcast band, such as the multiple NHK and NHK2 (Japan) frequencies, or the Aussie ABC national/regional stations. On a good morning they pop up all over the dial when DXing from the Washington coast. I hear the stronger ones from home, but it takes the coastal location and a Beverage or K9AY to get them by the dozens. Guy Atkins Puyallup, WA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe - AB1DO Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 4:32 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Sub RX toggle Key and Sub RX Volume Here's an alternative idea. How about a single slider that distributes the AF between Sub and Main RX. Kind of like an audio balance slider, but instead of balancing between L and R, balance between Sub and Main. Assuming equally strong Sub and Main RX signals, then: - Slide all the way to Main and you only hear Main - Slide all the way to Sub and you only hear Sub - Slide half way between Sub and Main and both are equally loud. Obviously, if Sub and Main have different signal strengths, then the mid point will be more towards the weaker of the two. Just a thought, 73 de Joe - AB1DO ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Sub RX toggle Key and Sub RX Volume
Combined with this a click option for rx1 to left ear and rx2 to right ear and the ability to swap them. Greg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Joe - AB1DO Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 4:32 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Sub RX toggle Key and Sub RX Volume Here's an alternative idea. How about a single slider that distributes the AF between Sub and Main RX. Kind of like an audio balance slider, but instead of balancing between L and R, balance between Sub and Main. Assuming equally strong Sub and Main RX signals, then: - Slide all the way to Main and you only hear Main - Slide all the way to Sub and you only hear Sub - Slide half way between Sub and Main and both are equally loud. Obviously, if Sub and Main have different signal strengths, then the mid point will be more towards the weaker of the two. Just a thought, 73 de Joe - AB1DO - Original Message - From: NU8Z [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 18:35 Subject: [Flexradio] Sub RX toggle Key and Sub RX Volume First, with regard to my original question regarding a keyboard entry to toggle the sub RX, I received a response from Henning (VK2CAP) . He stated that he uses the space bar. The space bar will toggle on and off the last button hit with the mouse. Hit the Sub RX button once with the mouse and it toggles the Sub RX nicely after that with the space bar. I tried it and it works great! Thanks Henning! Sub RX Volume Question: Now I have a question regarding the vertical slider in the Sub RX box. This now controls the Main RX volume. Would it not be better if it controled the SUB RX volume??? I think it would. We already have a volume control for the Main RX. What do others think? Best Regards Mark NU8Z -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.flex-radio.biz/pipermail/flexradio_flex-radio.biz/attachments/20 070105/4c04cca4/attachment.html ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/
