[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-users] RE: Turbine Engine (Concorde, Hunter and Citation Information Needed)
Vivian Meazza wrote: YASim has not yet implemented shut down/start up controls for gas turbines. Therefore there are none for the Hawker Hunter. As far as I can see, there is no generic implementation possible for turbine startup and shutdown. Everything would have to be done specifically for each engine type. Maybe the best thing to do would be to expose some appropriate inputs to the engine code (running or not, current RPM, station temperatures, etc...) and implement the details per-engine in Nasal... I'm wholely open to suggestions. FWIW: why do people care about this stuff so much? Engine startup and shutdown is a boring, algorithmic, checklist task. It's not exactly what I'd call fun, and it certainly won't ever be implemented at a fidelity level useful for flight training. What's the deal? :) Andy ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-users] RE: Turbine Engine (Concorde, Hunter and Citation Information Needed)
Andy Ross Vivian Meazza wrote: YASim has not yet implemented shut down/start up controls for gas turbines. Therefore there are none for the Hawker Hunter. As far as I can see, there is no generic implementation possible for turbine startup and shutdown. Everything would have to be done specifically for each engine type. Maybe the best thing to do would be to expose some appropriate inputs to the engine code (running or not, current RPM, station temperatures, etc...) and implement the details per-engine in Nasal... I'm wholely open to suggestions. FWIW: why do people care about this stuff so much? Engine startup and shutdown is a boring, algorithmic, checklist task. It's not exactly what I'd call fun, and it certainly won't ever be implemented at a fidelity level useful for flight training. What's the deal? :) No idea. I suppose flameouts and relights could enliven a dull mission. Then we could do compressor surge, and bird strikes ... nah, forget it :-) Vivian ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-users] RE: Turbine Engine (Concorde, Hunter and Citation Information Needed)
On Saturday 03 September 2005 17:43, Vivian Meazza wrote: the deal? :) No idea. I suppose flameouts and relights could enliven a dull mission. Then we could do compressor surge, and bird strikes ... nah, forget it :-) Vivian Would it be a first if FlightGear implemented a real-time AI flocking bird hazard? ;) Dave Martin ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-users] RE: Turbine Engine (Concorde, Hunter and Citation Information Needed)
On Saturday 03 Sep 2005 19:02, Dave Martin wrote: On Saturday 03 September 2005 17:43, Vivian Meazza wrote: the deal? :) No idea. I suppose flameouts and relights could enliven a dull mission. Then we could do compressor surge, and bird strikes ... nah, forget it :-) Vivian Would it be a first if FlightGear implemented a real-time AI flocking bird hazard? ;) Dave Martin Anyone got any bird 3-views? ;) LeeE ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
[Flightgear-devel] RE: Turbine Engine(Concorde, Hunter and Citation Information Needed)
Would it be a first if FlightGear implemented a real-time AI flocking bird hazard? ;) Dave Martin Anyone got any bird 3-views? ;) LeeE Not exactly a 3-view, but there is a well-done open source game called Scorched3d that has 3D flocking objects amusingly called boids. Boid types are bat, seagull, AH-64, and F-18. Go figure! Each has a 3D mesh and a bitmap skin. These flocking objects have no role other than eye candy, but they are cool. The whole game has lots of great eye candy and fun physics. Jim A (p.s., it's long evolved from the old Scorched Tanks game I used to play on my Amigas years ago!!) ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-users] RE: Turbine Engine (Concorde, Hunter and Citation Information Needed)
On Saturday 03 September 2005 11:47, Andy Ross wrote: Vivian Meazza wrote: YASim has not yet implemented shut down/start up controls for gas turbines. Therefore there are none for the Hawker Hunter. As far as I can see, there is no generic implementation possible for turbine startup and shutdown. Everything would have to be done specifically for each engine type. Maybe the best thing to do would be to expose some appropriate inputs to the engine code (running or not, current RPM, station temperatures, etc...) and implement the details per-engine in Nasal... For the most part, starting a jet engine is a no-fuss, no-muss proposition. You turn on the power, push the start button, and bring the throttle to the Idle Stop when it shows some small value of RPM. The fuel control takes care of the rest. That's pretty much the case for anything but the first Me 262s/Meteors/YP-80s. Occasionally you might have a fuel booster pump, or separate switch for the ignitors, but that's about it. Unless you want to be logging Hot Starts and Wet Starts, there's nothing horribly inaccurate about just pushing the button or advancing the throttle, and a few seconds later it's idling at 10% thrust. (Somewhere around 35-40% RPM) -- Pete Stickney ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
[Flightgear-devel] Re: Flightgear-devel Digest, Vol 28, Issue 43
Digital autopilot. With help from Roy Vegard Ovesen, I have managed to get the Digitrak autopilot working in a minimal way. It will hold the heading you select using the GPS to drive the autopilot. The files are available at http://www.city-gallery.com/vpilot/flightgear/ download the latest version (0.0.3). Let me know what you think. Steve ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
