Re: [Flightgear-devel] Cessna 172 problem in 9.8
On Friday 21 January 2005 11:06, Erik Hofman wrote: From c172-610x-null-set.xml Aircraft/c172/Panels/c172-610x-panel.xml true true Note the true tag. -- Roy Vegard Ovesen ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Cessna 172 problem in 9.8
Vivian Meazza wrote: Innis Cunningham wrote Hi All Could someone who uses FGRUN to start FG confirm that the 172 fullscreen hi res Cessna starts at night with the panel upside down and no scenery even if you have noon selected in FGRUN. Nope - it's fine apart the panel upside down, and the aircraft up to its wings in water when started at KSFO :-) I think we might need ver 0.9.8a in a hurry. I'd do a 0.9.8a if someone sorted out the default Cessna 172. Curt. -- Curtis Olsonhttp://www.flightgear.org/~curt HumanFIRST Program http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/ FlightGear Project http://www.flightgear.org Unique text:2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
RE: [Flightgear-devel] Cessna 172 problem in 9.8
Innis Cunningham wrote > Hi All > Could someone who uses FGRUN to start FG confirm > that the 172 fullscreen hi res Cessna starts at night > with the panel upside down and no scenery even > if you have noon selected in FGRUN. > Nope - it's fine apart the panel upside down, and the aircraft up to its wings in water when started at KSFO :-) I think we might need ver 0.9.8a in a hurry. Regards, Vivian ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Cessna 172 problem in 9.8
Innis Cunningham wrote: Erik Hofman writes Innis Cunningham wrote: Seeing this is probably the first aircraft a new user will try what a great advert.A panel that is upside down in the middle of the night with no engines running and no obvious way of getting them started. I mean if the idea is to discourage people from using FG I could not think of a better way. Reading all the other threads currently runing talking about making FG user friendly and the new version has this.At least the 737 works maybe it should be the default aircraft and then when people have mastered it they can move onto something more difficult like the 172. You seem to neglect the fact that there are certain special purpose models around that are not designed for use by the average user but that is very useful for what it's designed for. I guess this then begs the question what is a special purpose model doing in a release version. Just out of curiosity what purpose does a half submerged 172 serve. Are we working on an emergency rescue scenario. :-) We *really* need someone to go through and sort out the C172 tree(s) ... or start from scratch with a clean directory and pull in pieces as needed from the existing bramble bush, and when the new one is all working we can retire the older stuff. Regards, Curt. -- Curtis Olsonhttp://www.flightgear.org/~curt HumanFIRST Program http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/ FlightGear Project http://www.flightgear.org Unique text:2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Cessna 172 problem in 9.8
Erik Hofman writes Innis Cunningham wrote: Seeing this is probably the first aircraft a new user will try what a great advert.A panel that is upside down in the middle of the night with no engines running and no obvious way of getting them started. I mean if the idea is to discourage people from using FG I could not think of a better way. Reading all the other threads currently runing talking about making FG user friendly and the new version has this.At least the 737 works maybe it should be the default aircraft and then when people have mastered it they can move onto something more difficult like the 172. You seem to neglect the fact that there are certain special purpose models around that are not designed for use by the average user but that is very useful for what it's designed for. I guess this then begs the question what is a special purpose model doing in a release version. Just out of curiosity what purpose does a half submerged 172 serve. Are we working on an emergency rescue scenario. :-) Erik Cheers Innis ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Cessna 172 problem in 9.8
Quoting Erik Hofman : > Innis Cunningham wrote: > > > Seeing this is probably the first aircraft a new user will try what a > > great advert.A panel that is upside down in the middle of the night > > with no engines running and no obvious way of getting them started. > > I mean if the idea is to discourage people from using FG I could not > > think of a better way. > > Reading all the other threads currently runing talking about making FG > > user friendly and the new version has this.At least the 737 works maybe > > it should be the default aircraft and then when people have mastered it > > they can move onto something more difficult like the 172. > > You seem to neglect the fact that there are certain special purpose > models around that are not designed for use by the average user but that > is very useful for what it's designed for. But this is an advanced feature that is proposed to average users, and near the top of the list in fgrun. So dependencies really needs to be sorted out to be able to remove that option from the default package. -Fred ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Cessna 172 problem in 9.8
Innis Cunningham wrote: Seeing this is probably the first aircraft a new user will try what a great advert.A panel that is upside down in the middle of the night with no engines running and no obvious way of getting them started. I mean if the idea is to discourage people from using FG I could not think of a better way. Reading all the other threads currently runing talking about making FG user friendly and the new version has this.At least the 737 works maybe it should be the default aircraft and then when people have mastered it they can move onto something more difficult like the 172. You seem to neglect the fact that there are certain special purpose models around that are not designed for use by the average user but that is very useful for what it's designed for. Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Cessna 172 problem in 9.8
Erik Hofman writes Innis Cunningham wrote: Hi All Could someone who uses FGRUN to start FG confirm that the 172 fullscreen hi res Cessna starts at night with the panel upside down and no scenery even if you have noon selected in FGRUN. The fullscreen Cessna is supposed to start without the scenery. I don't know why the panel i upside down though. Seeing this is probably the first aircraft a new user will try what a great advert.A panel that is upside down in the middle of the night with no engines running and no obvious way of getting them started. I mean if the idea is to discourage people from using FG I could not think of a better way. Reading all the other threads currently runing talking about making FG user friendly and the new version has this.At least the 737 works maybe it should be the default aircraft and then when people have mastered it they can move onto something more difficult like the 172. Cheers Innis Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Cessna 172 problem in 9.8
Innis Cunningham wrote: Hi All Could someone who uses FGRUN to start FG confirm that the 172 fullscreen hi res Cessna starts at night with the panel upside down and no scenery even if you have noon selected in FGRUN. The fullscreen Cessna is supposed to start without the scenery. I don't know why the panel i upside down though. Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
[Flightgear-devel] Cessna 172 problem in 9.8
Hi All Could someone who uses FGRUN to start FG confirm that the 172 fullscreen hi res Cessna starts at night with the panel upside down and no scenery even if you have noon selected in FGRUN. Cheers Innis ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d