Re: [Flightgear-devel] Voice ATIS

2002-12-05 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Megginson writes:
 David Luff writes:
 
   OK, Thanks for testing this.  This is now in CVS.  A base update is also
   required to hear it.
 
 Great.

I'll second that ... downloaded the updates last night at home.  Very
nice job. :-)

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Voice ATIS

2002-12-05 Thread David Luff
On 12/4/02 at 9:29 PM David Megginson wrote:
Great.  For step 2, how about airport advisories for UNICOM (i.e. most
of the world's airports).  We could either add a mechnism to allow the

That's a very good idea.  I hadn't thought of UNICOM, but it might be a
good intermediate stepping stone from fully automated stuff like ATIS to
very interactive (and thus hard!) stuff like tower.  I shall have a look...

Cheers - Dave


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Voice ATIS

2002-12-05 Thread David Megginson
David Luff writes:

  That's a very good idea.  I hadn't thought of UNICOM, but it might
  be a good intermediate stepping stone from fully automated stuff
  like ATIS to very interactive (and thus hard!) stuff like tower.  I
  shall have a look...

It should just be a greatly simplified version of the ATIS, preferably
on demand.  If you just displayed

   Unicom, wind (favours runway XX|calm), no traffic reported
  in the circuit.

that would do it.  UNICOM doesn't give landing or takeoff clearance;
sometimes it will give taxiing instructions, order a pizza, or book
your rental car, but we don't need to add that right now.  UNICOM is
(almost?) always on the regular ATF, so it's the same frequency that
the pilots use for their position checks.

In Canada, we also have something halfway between UNICOM and a tower,
called a mandatory frequency (or MF).  Usually, it's at an airport
with an FSS and no radar; the FSS gives a lot more guidance to landing
and departing aircraft than a UNICOM does, but still without actually
issuing clearances or instructions other than requiring position
reports.


All the best,


David

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Voice ATIS

2002-12-05 Thread Jon Stockill
On Thu, 5 Dec 2002, David Luff wrote:

 That's a very good idea.  I hadn't thought of UNICOM, but it might be a
 good intermediate stepping stone from fully automated stuff like ATIS to
 very interactive (and thus hard!) stuff like tower.  I shall have a look...

For *fully* interactive stuff we need a radar app, and real voice comms.

I suppose this should really be interfaced through the multiplayer code -
it'd be pointless talking to a tower if you can't actually see the
aircraft they're warning you about.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Voice ATIS

2002-12-04 Thread David Luff

On 12/3/02 at 11:05 PM Julian Foad wrote:
David Luff wrote:
 
 I've managed to get canned voice ATIS going.

Wow!  Brilliant.  It really works!  It sounds about like I'd expect, too 
(e.g. the 8 kHz-ness).

OK, Thanks for testing this.  This is now in CVS.  A base update is also
required to hear it.

Cheers - Dave



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[Flightgear-devel] Voice ATIS

2002-12-03 Thread David Luff
Hi all,

I've managed to get canned voice ATIS going.

I've put the files up at:

http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~eazdluf/ATCsrc.tgz
and
http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~eazdluf/ATCdata.tgz

To use it, untar ATCsrc.tgz into the src/ATC directory, and untar
ATCdata.tgz into the fgfsbase/ATC directory (You may want to backup what's
already there first!).  Tune in to an ATIS station.  It respects
--disable-sound so you'll get scrolling text only if you have that as an
option.  The files contain names for all the airports with ATIS (11) in the
base package, and the majority of larger UK airports.  However, all
airports will get it, they'll just not have the name read out.  It compiles
on Cygwin gcc-2.95 and Linux (Libranet 2.0) gcc-3.2, although I've only
managed to test it running on Windows (hardware acceleration problems on
*both* my Linux boxes :-( ).  Those diffing should note that the files
contain lots of other more long-term changes to the ATC/AI files - the
relevant diffs for the voice part are mostly in atis.cxx, ATCutils.cxx,
ATCmgr.cxx and the new files ATCVoice.[ch]xx.  Ignore leading whitespace
when diffing since I'm using all tabs instead of the Flightgear
4-space/8-tab mix.  Some airport names in default.atis are also changed to
allow the token parser to recognise them, or to remove extraneous naming
(eg San Carlos arpt of Santa Clara Co - San-Carlos).

Personally I think it sounds quite reasonable for a first cut.  The last
bit (advise controller...) can sound funny at the end with some phonetic
identifiers due to a mismatch in volume and tempo, and it was recorded with
a crappy microphone at the default Flightgear 8000/8bit sampling rate, but
for all that it sounds quite reasonable (IMHO).

I am getting some failed to remove nav-vor-ident sound messages produced,
but hey, more eyes and all that :-)

There are still a few known issues with the ATIS - stopping and restarting
resets it to the beginning, it always starts from the beginning instead of
a random location in the message, the actual message format isn't quite
right, but these were all there anyway with the text version and I'll get
round to them in time (hopefully... :-) )

Feedback welcomed, don't flame me too badly if it doesn't work on
MacOS/IRIX please...

Some frequencies within range of the default startup location:
115.8
133.775
120.6
118.25
124.175
125.9
126.7
125.2
119.65
126.95

Cheers - Dave


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Voice ATIS

2002-12-03 Thread Julian Foad
David Luff wrote:


I've managed to get canned voice ATIS going.


Wow!  Brilliant.  It really works!  It sounds about like I'd expect, too 
(e.g. the 8 kHz-ness).

- Julian


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