[Flightgear-devel] event: Flightgear talk in Santa Monica, CA, USA

2006-09-01 Thread Alex Perry
The Coastal Los Angeles IEEE Section Computer Society Chapter presents ...

 Introduction to the FlightGear Flight Simulator
September 12, 2006 at 7:30pm
Alex Perry, Google, 604 Arizona, Santa Monica, CA 90401

FlightGear is a GPL open source flight simulator that runs on a wide range
of platforms including Linux, MacOS and Windows.  The simulation itself, the
worldwide scenery and the aircraft models are free to download from
www.flightgear.org and its mirrors.  This talk will provide an introduction
into the project, its goals, getting started, and a demonstration of the
system in action.

IEEE membership is not required to attend this talk; we're always
looking to grow our membership: http://www.ieee.org/membership/join/
Computer Society:   http://www.computer.org/
Section Home Page:  http://ewh.ieee.org/r6/coastal_la/
FlightGear project: http://www.flightgear.org/
Directions / Map:   http://tinyurl.com/gba8u
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[Flightgear-devel] Linux development...

2006-09-01 Thread Syd
Hi guys, I have another question  then I promise I wont pester
anyone again for at least a few days :)
What is the IDE of choice for the Linux developers for this project?
I use Anjuta, it seems pretty good , Im trying to set up a project to
add ALL the flightgear source files so hopefully I can trace the
program a little better . My attempt at 2d instrument clipping works
great for 2d panels , but I haven't quite figured out yet how the 3d
panel implements them.
Thanks,
Syd

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Linux development...

2006-09-01 Thread Dave Culp
On Friday 01 September 2006 02:29 am, Syd wrote:
 What is the IDE of choice for the Linux developers for this project?

Hi Syd,

Firstly, thanks for taking on the 2D panel clipping.  That's been sorely 
needed for a few years now.

As for IDE's, I think most developers here don't use one.


Dave 

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Linux development...

2006-09-01 Thread Jon S. Berndt
 Hi Syd,

 Firstly, thanks for taking on the 2D panel clipping.  That's been sorely
 needed for a few years now.

 As for IDE's, I think most developers here don't use one.

 Dave

I've used Borland C++BuilderX, which has served me well under Windows. I
understand there is (was?) a version available for Linux, though I never
used it. If I did development under Linux, now, I'd probably try KDevelop.
It seems very impressive.

Jon


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Linux development...

2006-09-01 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Dave Culp wrote:
 Firstly, thanks for taking on the 2D panel clipping.  That's been sorely 
 needed for a few years now.

 As for IDE's, I think most developers here don't use one.

I've always used emacs + make.  I've done some windows based projects 
using IDE's (both MS and Borland) and frankly, I just don't see that 
they gain you all that much over simpler approaches, but I don't feel 
like they are a hindrance either.  I think it just boils down to knowing 
how to use  your tools effectively and choosing the ones you prefer.  (I 
don't want to start a political discussion here.)

I've always edited my files in emacs which allows me to open up multiple 
windows on multiple files like an ide would.  Then I run make in a 
text window.  There are all sorts of little trade offs between 
make/emacs and an ide.  An ide can provide a number of little 
conveniences, but have you ever had the need to do some development or 
debugging on a client's remote system?  Some systems are large enough 
and complicated enough that you can't just email the client a new .exe, 
it makes more sense to log in and work remotely.

Some of the differences stem from the unix philosophy/culture versus the 
windows philosophy/culture.  Unix tends to favor a collection of tools, 
each tool doing it's particular task *really* well, but it's up to the 
developer/user to connect these smaller tools together to accomplish 
larger tasks.  Windows tends to a favor giant monolithic apps that do 
everything in one big .exe.

So in unix I  choose to use emacs to edit my source files because it is 
an incredibly powerful and flexible editor, and I would choose 
gcc/g++/make to compile my code because I just love RMS so much.  There 
is gdb and valgrind and others for debugging, there is cvs for source 
code version management, there are the autotools (ack!), and a variety 
of other little utils (awk, grep, perl, etc.) that you can pull in to do 
different little tasks.

In windows you typically get this all rolled together in one giant app.  
But each individual piece of the app might not be quite as full featured 
and flexible as the individual tools you would find in unix.

That said, 99.9% of popular unix software is ported to windows so a unix 
head stuck on a windows box can still survive and be relatively happy.

Sorry, I'm just rambling now ... better get off my butt and go to work 
here ... :-)

Curt.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Linux development...

2006-09-01 Thread Jim Wilson
 -Original Message-
 From: Syd 
 
 Hi guys, I have another question  then I promise I wont pester
 anyone again for at least a few days 
 What is the IDE of choice for the Linux developers for this project?
 I use Anjuta, it seems pretty good , Im trying to set up a project to
 add ALL the flightgear source files so hopefully I can trace the
 program a little better . My attempt at 2d instrument clipping works
 great for 2d panels , but I haven't quite figured out yet how the 3d
 panel implements them.
 Thanks,
 Syd

Hi Syd,

It seems that others have already said that a lot of people don't use an IDE 
per se 
when developing C++ in Linux.  Just what is meant by an ide vs tool vs gui 
tools vs 
gui designer isn't always clear.

There are the basic tools already mentioned.  As far as text editors there 
are 
many that support development in some helpful ways, especially emacs. Even vim 
has 
some cool editing features.  DDD is a pretty good gui interface to the gnu 
debugger 
if you want to get up to speed with all the gdb features.  It displays the gdb 
dialog 
down in the bottom window, which means you can learn while using it.  It also 
means 
you'll probably end up using gdb directly from the command line for simple 
debugging 
tasks before long.

One package I've used very little myself,  but have actually installed and set 
up 
for other programmers and heard great things about is Eclipse.   In constrast 
to 
what some of the other folks have said about Unix programmers,  I think a well 
designed IDE can be very helpful.  This one appears to be well thought out
and has a certain Unix sensibility to it.  It is open source and you can 
interface 
all kinds of cool and free stuff.  It originally was designed for java,  but I 
use 
Netbeans for that.  The people I've set it up for are doing php with it,  but I 
have 
thought seriously about trying it for C++ work myself.

Here's a web page on using it with C++
http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/library/os-ecc/

Best,

Jim


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