Re: [Flightgear-devel] Texture contribution
On Thu, 8 May 2008 14:36:03 + (GMT), Stuart wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > --- On Thu, 8/5/08, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > ..maybe he could join us here? ;o) > > I don't think he has any interest in FG - he was approached by > another forum member who wanted to use his textures in a building. > > > ..I believe he is wrong in his opinion of being unable to > > make a good living off his texture web site ..here is where I forgot "using the GPL." :o) > > And I too am > > happy to help convince him. And the best part is how he > > starts with a limited set of textures. He will be able > > to tell us how this "impacts" his web site > > business. ;o) > > I hope he can make a living from his texture website, and I think > GPLing some textures is a good marketing tool. However, I can't see > any commercial justification for GPLing all the textures, ..maybe his new experience from now on will provide that justification? ;o) > given that they are already fairly free for end-user use. > > In this case the textures themselves represent a very large part of > his IP and business. In contrast, a lot of OSS businesses have > professional services ontop of the GPL'd IP as the actual business, > so the core software is not as important to them. ..aye, but textures too are works of art, and a conceivable source code recipe nasal or bash script would tell the re-creator precisely where to go and how to re-create his textures under the GPL, and e.g. leave his binaries under GPL3 in the FG suite and under his own license on his commercial site. Many ways to skin this cat. ;o) > Anyway, I am not familiar with his business, and it would be > presumptious (if not rather rude) of me to comment further. I'm just > very thankful he has offered as much as he has. ..aye. :o) > On a more technical note - if we are offered a choice, it might be a > good idea to discuss the sort of textures that would be particularly > useful to the project. I've had a quick look through the site, and > there aren't any that look particularly applicable as ground > textures, but there are some nice elevation views of buildings which > could be useful. ..aye, e.g. runway rubber tracks around intersections. :o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Texture contribution
--- On Thu, 8/5/08, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > ..maybe he could join us here? ;o) I don't think he has any interest in FG - he was approached by another forum member who wanted to use his textures in a building. > ..I believe he is wrong in his opinion of being unable to > make a good living off his texture web site. And I too am > happy to help convince him. And the best part is how he > starts with a limited set of textures. He will be able > to tell us how this "impacts" his web site > business. ;o) I hope he can make a living from his texture website, and I think GPLing some textures is a good marketing tool. However, I can't see any commercial justification for GPLing all the textures, given that they are already fairly free for end-user use. In this case the textures themselves represent a very large part of his IP and business. In contrast, a lot of OSS businesses have professional services ontop of the GPL'd IP as the actual business, so the core software is not as important to them. Anyway, I am not familiar with his business, and it would be presumptious (if not rather rude) of me to comment further. I'm just very thankful he has offered as much as he has. On a more technical note - if we are offered a choice, it might be a good idea to discuss the sort of textures that would be particularly useful to the project. I've had a quick look through the site, and there aren't any that look particularly applicable as ground textures, but there are some nice elevation views of buildings which could be useful. -Stuart __ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Email http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Texture contribution
On Thu, 8 May 2008 13:08:12 + (GMT), Stuart wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi All, > > The maintainer of a textures website has offered some of his textures > to be GPL'd and contributed to the project: > > http://www.flightgear.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=10163 > > On the assumption that we should take up his kind offer, who would > like to be the point of contact? > > As anyone who has seen my attempts at aircraft texturing will attest, > I'm certainly not an artist, and don't feel best placed to handle > this. > > -Stuart ..maybe he could join us here? ;o) ..I believe he is wrong in his opinion of being unable to make a good living off his texture web site. And I too am happy to help convince him. And the best part is how he starts with a limited set of textures. He will be able to tell us how this "impacts" his web site business. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Texture contribution
Hi All, The maintainer of a textures website has offered some of his textures to be GPL'd and contributed to the project: http://www.flightgear.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=10163 On the assumption that we should take up his kind offer, who would like to be the point of contact? As anyone who has seen my attempts at aircraft texturing will attest, I'm certainly not an artist, and don't feel best placed to handle this. -Stuart __ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Email http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main fg_commands.cxx, 1.100, 1.101
Sheesh ... another messed up log message:
> Merge branch 'master' of ../.fg.osg
Of course, I fix such botched log messages in CVS, so you'll get
the right thing with $ cvs log fg_commands.cxx. It's just hard
to revoke the cvslogs mails. (I also fix bugs in the git gateway
that cause such problems. Note that these aren't git bugs!)
The actual message is:
revision 1.101
date: 2008-05-08 12:07:51 +0200; author: mfranz; state: Exp; [...]
- rename fgcommand "set-mouse" to "set-cursor"
- write new {x,y} coords to /devices/status/mice/mouse/{x,y}, so that
they are immediately available
m.
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[Flightgear-devel] [patch] move most scenery-related code to simgear
hi, i have prepared a patch that moves most scenery-related code to simgear. namely following classes are moved to simgear/scene/tgdb/: ReaderWriterSTG TileEntry TileCache (renamed from FGNewCache) this move was needed to allow independent apps to use flightgear scenery. the app i made this for is a tool that does intersection testing on flightgear scenery. it is included as 0002-fg-add-an-elevation-util-0.0.4.patch sorry, this patch is a little large (which of course is natural, when moving files). it is *too large* even, for the ridiculous 40k limit on this list. cheers, -till http://flight.bux.at/0001-sg-move-most-scenery-related-code-to-simgear.patch http://flight.bux.at/0001-fg-move-most-scenery-related-code-to-simgear.patch http://flight.bux.at/0002-fg-add-an-elevation-util-0.0.4.patch - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
