Re: [Flightgear-devel] Open Street Maps Licence caution
Hi Georg, I think you are being overly strict in the interpretation. The Flightgear project currently distributes maps generated from Public Domain data as GPL. Why should this be any different for OSM? It to uses Public Domain data to generate it's maps, so you are free to do what you want with the data. Any modifications you do to the data is you own derived work which you can distribute as you like. But if you feel that there is a conflict between the Creative Commons license and the GPL, then you should consider distributing the OSM based scenery as Creative Commons. -Rob On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 1:12 AM, Georg Vollnhals <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bohnert Paul schrieb: > > Hi all, > > > > Anyone can use and distribute Open Street Maps data for free. I don't > think OSM data can be distrubuted under the GPL. > > > > If some one knows better please weight in. > > > > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/FAQ#What_does_your_licence_allow_me_to_do.3F > > > > Paul B. > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Paul, > > thank you very much for this hint. > > I read most of the document and I think you are right regarding the > intended new licence. > Although I respect all aspects why some sort of constringend licence > might be necessary it looks as if it is/will not be easy to use OSM data > for FlightGear without some sort of "extra" licence agreement. This > might not be impossible if the data are protected by converting them in > a way that they cannot be used by a third party as "data" but only as a > graphical surface area ... and this would not show all converted data as > precise as a topographic map created with OSM data as FG can only use a > reduced dataset considering performance aspects. > > As for me I will stop collecting data for the moment as I my > intention was to improve the local OSM data in respect of a later use by > FlightGear. So let's first see if this is possible or not in the future. > > Thank you once again for pointing to the licence problems, this was not > clear for me. > > Georg EDDW > > - > Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. > It's the best place to buy or sell services for > just about anything Open Source. > http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php > ___ > Flightgear-devel mailing list > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel > - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: source/src/FDM/JSBSim/models/flight_control FGActuator.cpp ...
I guess the question I am really asking is, are these kinds of constructs still required for simgear? # include # include STL_STRING # include STL_IOSTREAM # include STL_FSTREAM SG_USING_STD(cout); SG_USING_STD(endl); Or, can we just do this the normal C++ way, #include #include #include using std::cout; using std::endl; Jon - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/FDM/JSBSim/models/flight_control FGActuator.cpp, 1.2, 1.3 FGFCSComponent.h, 1.3, 1.4
Hi Fred, Frederic Bouvier schrieb am 07.06.2008 10:14: > I was able to compile JSBsim and FG today, except a small glitch with > non portable code in new_gui.h I was able to fix using plib. > > Thank you! > Thanks, > > -Fred > > > Maik - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] CVS Server problems
Our CVS server appears to be hanging in the middle of it's boot and unable to fully come up. I don't know what's wrong yet, but it appears to be hardware and my money is on the motherboard. This server has grown to be a pretty old machine. I have another machine in the pipeline that is much less old, so for the very short term I will try to get that up and running. Right now the newer machine is wiped clean, so it may be a day or so before I can get the OS loaded and CVS back up and running. There is no data loss risk here (the data drives aren't affected or related to the problem, and I do nightly offsite backups) but I ask the developers to be patient while I work on the issue. I've heard rumors of SF mailing list problems too, so hopefully this notice will get through. Thanks, Curt. -- Curtis Olson: http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/ - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] last cvs getting error during FG build
On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 11:15 PM, gerard robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I get that error during FG compilation > > AirportList.cxx:(.text+0xb40): undefined reference to `puaList::puaList(int, > int, int, int, int)' Make sure you are linking against plibpuaux from plib 1.8.5. Apparently you have headers for 1.8.5, because otherwise you'd have run into trouble earlier. So your link command is either missing -lplibpuaux or you have old plib 1.8.4 somewhere and fg is picking that up. -- Greets, Csaba/Jester - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] last cvs getting error during FG build
On Sat, 7 Jun 2008, gerard robin wrote: > > > I get that error during FG compilation > > AirportList.cxx:(.text+0xb40): undefined reference to `puaList::puaList(int, > int, int, int, int)' > AirportList.cxx:(.text+0xb9f): undefined reference to `puaList::~puaList()' > ../../src/GUI/libGUI.a(AirportList.o): In function Hi, Are you sure you have plib 1.8.5 or later installed? The current FG/CVS builds without problems for me. Cheers, Anders -- --- Anders Gidenstam WWW: http://www.gidenstam.org/FlightGear/ - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] last cvs getting error during FG build
* gerard robin -- Saturday 07 June 2008: > AirportList.cxx:(.text+0xb40): undefined reference to `puaList::puaList(int, > int, int, int, int)' Looks like you aren't using plib 1.8.5, which is now required. m. - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/FDM/JSBSim/models/flight_control FGActuator.cpp, 1.2, 1.3 FGFCSComponent.h, 1.3, 1.4
Fred wrote > Sent: 07 June 2008 09:14 > To: FlightGear developers discussions > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: > source/src/FDM/JSBSim/models/flight_control FGActuator.cpp, 1.2, 1.3 > FGFCSComponent.h, 1.3, 1.4 > > Hi Tim, > > Tim Moore a écrit : > > On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 09:13:49 +0200 > > Melchior FRANZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >> * Frederic Bouvier -- Friday 06 June 2008: > >> > >>> Moreover, you can't include a statement like "using std::cerr;" > >>> if std::cerr is not already defined. > >>> > >> Just for the record: I had to modify a few files in fg/JSBSim as > >> well to make it compile. On Linux! This may be because I'm using > >> a different build system. Maybe I need to add some -D symbol on > >> the command line or something. Have yet to find out ... > >> > >> m. > >> > > > > Ok, obviously I'm interested in making it work on all our supported > > platforms. Let me know what changes you have made and I'll resubmit my > > patch to JSBSim. > > > > > > I was able to compile JSBsim and FG today, except a small glitch with > non portable code in new_gui.h I was able to fix using plib. > > Thanks, > > -Fred Just hit that one - I hope it will be in fixed in cvs soon. Vivian - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Open Street Maps Licence caution
Bohnert Paul schrieb: > Hi all, > > Anyone can use and distribute Open Street Maps data for free. I don't think > OSM data can be distrubuted under the GPL. > > If some one knows better please weight in. > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/FAQ#What_does_your_licence_allow_me_to_do.3F > > Paul B. > > > > > Hi Paul, thank you very much for this hint. I read most of the document and I think you are right regarding the intended new licence. Although I respect all aspects why some sort of constringend licence might be necessary it looks as if it is/will not be easy to use OSM data for FlightGear without some sort of "extra" licence agreement. This might not be impossible if the data are protected by converting them in a way that they cannot be used by a third party as "data" but only as a graphical surface area ... and this would not show all converted data as precise as a topographic map created with OSM data as FG can only use a reduced dataset considering performance aspects. As for me I will stop collecting data for the moment as I my intention was to improve the local OSM data in respect of a later use by FlightGear. So let's first see if this is possible or not in the future. Thank you once again for pointing to the licence problems, this was not clear for me. Georg EDDW - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FG menu bar small and no text?
Tim, Tim Moore wrote: > On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 07:30:09 +0200 > Tim Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Sat, 31 May 2008 21:31:08 +0200 >> Melchior FRANZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> * Holger Wirtz -- Saturday 31 May 2008: I will have a look at the transpareny fonts. Perhaps such a font is simply missing... >>> It doesn't have anything to do with transparency as such, but only >>> with texture fonts (*.txf) versus (built-in) bitmap fonts. The >>> former are now apparently broken since recently, which affects text >>> on the HUD and the "classic" GUI style, whereas the dark GUI style, >>> the frame rate counter and the ATC messages use a bitmap font >>> and, therefore, still work. I assume that Tim knows more about >>> that problem. ;-) >> Yeah, I think my changes that try to make the GUI and HUD work in >> multithreaded or mult-screen sets are the cause of the problem here. >> I'm looking at this now. >> >> Tim > > This is fixed now. Great! Yes, now I can see also text when the HUD is active. Thanks, Holger > > Tim > > - > Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. > It's the best place to buy or sell services for > just about anything Open Source. > http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php > ___ > Flightgear-devel mailing list > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] last cvs getting error during FG build
I get that error during FG compilation AirportList.cxx:(.text+0xb40): undefined reference to `puaList::puaList(int, int, int, int, int)' AirportList.cxx:(.text+0xb9f): undefined reference to `puaList::~puaList()' ../../src/GUI/libGUI.a(AirportList.o): In function `AirportList::AirportList(int, int, int, int)': AirportList.cxx:(.text+0xc20): undefined reference to `puaList::puaList(int, int, int, int, int)' AirportList.cxx:(.text+0xc7f): undefined reference to `puaList::~puaList()' ../../src/GUI/libGUI.a(AirportList.o):(.rodata._ZTV11AirportList[vtable for AirportList]+0xc): undefined reference to `puaList::RTTI_cast(ulRTTItypeid)' ../../src/GUI/libGUI.a(AirportList.o):(.rodata._ZTV11AirportList[vtable for AirportList]+0x2c): undefined reference to `puaList::getIntegerValue()' ../../src/GUI/libGUI.a(AirportList.o):(.rodata._ZTV11AirportList[vtable for AirportList]+0x38): undefined reference to `puaList::getStringValue()' ../../src/GUI/libGUI.a(AirportList.o):(.rodata._ZTV11AirportList[vtable for AirportList]+0x54): undefined reference to `puaList::setSize(int, int)' ../../src/GUI/libGUI.a(AirportList.o):(.rodata._ZTV11AirportList[vtable for AirportList]+0x6c): undefined reference to `puaList::setColourScheme(float, float, float, float)' ../../src/GUI/libGUI.a(AirportList.o):(.rodata._ZTV11AirportList[vtable for AirportList]+0x70): undefined reference to `puaList::setColour(int, float, float, float, float)' ../../src/GUI/libGUI.a(AirportList.o):(.rodata._ZTV11AirportList[vtable for AirportList]+0x84): undefined reference to `puaList::init(int, int, short)' ../../src/GUI/libGUI.a(AirportList.o):(.rodata._ZTV11AirportList[vtable for AirportList]+0x88): undefined reference to `puaList::newList(char**)' ../../src/GUI/libGUI.a(AirportList.o):(.rodata._ZTV11AirportList[vtable for AirportList]+0x8c): undefined reference to `puaList::getValue(char**)' ../../src/GUI/libGUI.a(AirportList.o):(.rodata._ZTV11AirportList[vtable for AirportList]+0x90): undefined reference to `puaList::getValue(int*)' ../../src/GUI/libGUI.a(AirportList.o):(.rodata._ZTI11AirportList[typeinfo for AirportList]+0x10): undefined reference to `typeinfo for puaList' ../../src/GUI/libGUI.a(property_list.o): In function `PropertyList::~PropertyList()': property_list.cxx:(.text+0x17c3): undefined reference to `puaList::~puaList()' property_list.cxx:(.text+0x17e9): undefined reference to `puaList::~puaList()' ../../src/GUI/libGUI.a(property_list.o): In function `PropertyList::~PropertyList()': property_list.cxx:(.text+0x1961): undefined reference to `puaList::~puaList()' ../../src/GUI/libGUI.a(property_list.o): In function `PropertyList::~PropertyList()': property_list.cxx:(.text+0x1ad1): undefined reference to `puaList::~puaList()' ../../src/GUI/libGUI.a(property_list.o): In function `PropertyList::handle_select(puObject*)': property_list.cxx:(.text+0x219a): undefined reference to `puaList::setTopItem(int)' ../../src/GUI/libGUI.a(property_list.o): In function `PropertyList::PropertyList(int, int, int, int, SGPropertyNode*)': property_list.cxx:(.text+0x26d5): undefined reference to `puaList::puaList(int, int, int, int, short, int)' property_list.cxx:(.text+0x2816): undefined reference to `puaList::~puaList()' ../../src/GUI/libGUI.a(property_list.o): In function `PropertyList::PropertyList(int, int, int, int, SGPropertyNode*)': property_list.cxx:(.text+0x2875): undefined reference to `puaList::puaList(int, int, int, int, short, int)' property_list.cxx:(.text+0x29b6): undefined reference to `puaList::~puaList()' ../../src/GUI/libGUI.a(property_list.o): In function `PropertyList::~PropertyList()': property_list.cxx:(.text+0x1949): undefined reference to `puaList::~puaList()' ../../src/GUI/libGUI.a(property_list.o): In function `PropertyList::~PropertyList()': property_list.cxx:(.text+0x1ab9): undefined reference to `puaList::~puaList()' ../../src/GUI/libGUI.a(property_list.o): In function `PropertyList::update(bool)': property_list.cxx:(.text+0x1e17): undefined reference to `puaList::setTopItem(int)' ../../src/GUI/libGUI.a(property_list.o):(.rodata._ZTV12PropertyList[vtable for PropertyList]+0xc): undefined reference to `puaList::RTTI_cast(ulRTTItypeid)' ../../src/GUI/libGUI.a(property_list.o):(.rodata._ZTV12PropertyList[vtable for PropertyList]+0x2c): undefined reference to `puaList::getIntegerValue()' ../../src/GUI/libGUI.a(property_list.o):(.rodata._ZTV12PropertyList[vtable for PropertyList]+0x54): undefined reference to `puaList::setSize(int, int)' ../../src/GUI/libGUI.a(property_list.o):(.rodata._ZTV12PropertyList[vtable for PropertyList]+0x6c): undefined reference to `puaList::setColourScheme(float, float, float, float)' ../../src/GUI/libGUI.a(property_list.o):(.rodata._ZTV12PropertyList[vtable for PropertyList]+0x70): undefined reference to `puaList::setColour(int, float, float, float, float)' ../../src/GUI/libGUI.a(property_list.o):(.rodata._ZTV12PropertyList[vtable for PropertyList]+0x84): undefined refere
Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: source/src/FDM/JSBSim/models/flight_control FGActuator.cpp
On ven 6 juin 2008, Anders Gidenstam wrote: > On Thu, 5 Jun 2008, Jon S. Berndt wrote: > > 2) Dave Culp (and others?) have actually been using the latest JSBSim in > > FlightGear for a while, now, for testing. I've compiled it in here at > > home, too, but haven't really used it much. I have access to the > > FlightGear CVS tree in the JSBSim directory. It's really my fault that > > the current JSBSim is not in FlightGear CVS, and I apologize for the > > foot-dragging. > > Hi, > > I'm (one of?) the others that keep testing JSBSim/CVS in FlightGear/CVS. I > try to keep an up to date patch for FlightGear/CVS here: > > http://www.gidenstam.org/FlightGear/Airships/patches/ > > I think it would be good if we could synch the JSBSim in FlightGear > with JSBSim/CVS more often. > > > Cheers, > > Anders Hello Anders, Nice, your is better than mine which is a bad 'DIY' more or less (rather less :) ) up to date. I will try it . Cheers -- Gérard http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/ "J'ai décidé d'être heureux parce que c'est bon pour la santé. Voltaire " - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/FDM/JSBSim/models/flight_control FGActuator.cpp, 1.2, 1.3 FGFCSComponent.h, 1.3, 1.4
Hi Tim, Tim Moore a écrit : > On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 09:13:49 +0200 > Melchior FRANZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> * Frederic Bouvier -- Friday 06 June 2008: >> >>> Moreover, you can't include a statement like "using std::cerr;" >>> if std::cerr is not already defined. >>> >> Just for the record: I had to modify a few files in fg/JSBSim as >> well to make it compile. On Linux! This may be because I'm using >> a different build system. Maybe I need to add some -D symbol on >> the command line or something. Have yet to find out ... >> >> m. >> > > Ok, obviously I'm interested in making it work on all our supported > platforms. Let me know what changes you have made and I'll resubmit my > patch to JSBSim. > > I was able to compile JSBsim and FG today, except a small glitch with non portable code in new_gui.h I was able to fix using plib. Thanks, -Fred -- Frédéric Bouvier http://my.fotolia.com/frfoto/ Photo gallery http://fgsd.sourceforge.net/FlightGear Scenery Designer - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
