Re: [Flightgear-devel] Startup problem
This definitely looks like a good time to check your cows. My first knee jerk reaction if I see this would be to reinstall the nvidia drivers from nvidia.com, and if you don't have nvidia video hardware and you are running linux, then hopefully someone else can lend a hand since I stick to nvidia on the machines I own that might ever run FlightGear. (For whatever it's worth, that is my primary constraint whenever I shop for a laptop: nvidia video hardware on board.) Curt. On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 4:56 PM, John Wojnaroski wrote: Doing this build on a new machine, thinking I have all the required support files and libraries loaded and new data files. Things work fine with 1.9.1 on the other machine, but that was done almost two years ago and the memory is fuzzy and any notes are long gone. Just a quick try to see if things run ooops, t...@tower Main]# ./fgfs Error: Unable to create OpenGL graphics context. Error: Unable to create OpenGL graphics context. Segmentation fault Have not tried any of the examples in OSG, probably ought to go back and see if the cow shows up unless someone has any suggestions ;-) John W -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Sprint What will you do first with EVO, the first 4G phone? Visit sprint.com/first -- http://p.sf.net/sfu/sprint-com-first ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Curtis Olson: http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/ -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Sprint What will you do first with EVO, the first 4G phone? Visit sprint.com/first -- http://p.sf.net/sfu/sprint-com-first___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Startup problem
I second that. As the matter of fact I stick to nVidea for all machines over the years, because I feel that nVidea should be rewarded for their support of Linux and ATI should be punished for not taking Linux seriously. m Op 25-07-10 15:39, Curtis Olson schreef: This definitely looks like a good time to check your cows. My first knee jerk reaction if I see this would be to reinstall the nvidia drivers from nvidia.com http://nvidia.com, and if you don't have nvidia video hardware and you are running linux, then hopefully someone else can lend a hand since I stick to nvidia on the machines I own that might ever run FlightGear. (For whatever it's worth, that is my primary constraint whenever I shop for a laptop: nvidia video hardware on board.) -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Sprint What will you do first with EVO, the first 4G phone? Visit sprint.com/first -- http://p.sf.net/sfu/sprint-com-first___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Startup problem
On Sunday 25 July 2010 18:38:45 fiers...@zonnet.nl wrote: I second that. As the matter of fact I stick to nVidea for all machines over the years, because I feel that nVidea should be rewarded for their support of Linux and ATI should be punished for not taking Linux seriously. On the other hand, I'm running a system with 100% free software thanks to AMD's releasing of documentation for driver writers for ATI cards. And my ATI card with its free drivers allowed me for the first time in many years not only to run FlightGear but also good video performance, desktop effects in KDE and usable performance with anti aliased fonts which is something NVidia never managed to do for me (some known problems with their drivers which never got fixed). Times change. Stefan -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Sprint What will you do first with EVO, the first 4G phone? Visit sprint.com/first -- http://p.sf.net/sfu/sprint-com-first ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Startup problem
Yea, that turned out to be the problem. Not sure why, but as a last resort and late at night I reinstalled the Nvidia driver and that cleared the problem. Now I'm looking for a good doc or tutorial on creating AI traffic and lots of activity at an airport. Have a couple of talks coming up to linux user groups in the area and would like to have some movies of a lot of ramp activity and departures and arrivals. Looking over the files in the Docs and various xml files see a lot of really good stuff that represents a lot of work but nothing on how to tie it all together into a scenario. IIRC we had something for Scale6x but that seems like eons ago and can't find any files that go that far back. John W This definitely looks like a good time to check your cows. My first knee jerk reaction if I see this would be to reinstall the nvidia drivers from nvidia.com, and if you don't have nvidia video hardware and you are running linux, then hopefully someone else can lend a hand since I stick to nvidia on the machines I own that might ever run FlightGear. (For whatever it's worth, that is my primary constraint whenever I shop for a laptop: nvidia video hardware on board.) Curt. On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 4:56 PM, John Wojnaroski wrote: Doing this build on a new machine, thinking I have all the required support files and libraries loaded and new data files. Things work fine with 1.9.1 on the other machine, but that was done almost two years ago and the memory is fuzzy and any notes are long gone. Just a quick try to see if things run ooops, t...@tower Main]# ./fgfs Error: Unable to create OpenGL graphics context. Error: Unable to create OpenGL graphics context. Segmentation fault Have not tried any of the examples in OSG, probably ought to go back and see if the cow shows up unless someone has any suggestions ;-) John W -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Sprint What will you do first with EVO, the first 4G phone? Visit sprint.com/first -- http://p.sf.net/sfu/sprint-com-first ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Curtis Olson: http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/ -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Sprint What will you do first with EVO, the first 4G phone? Visit sprint.com/first -- http://p.sf.net/sfu/sprint-com-first___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Sprint What will you do first with EVO, the first 4G phone? Visit sprint.com/first -- http://p.sf.net/sfu/sprint-com-first ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Startup problem
On Sunday 25 July 2010 10:19:46 am Stefan Seifert wrote: On Sunday 25 July 2010 18:38:45 fiers...@zonnet.nl wrote: I second that. As the matter of fact I stick to nVidea for all machines over the years, because I feel that nVidea should be rewarded for their support of Linux and ATI should be punished for not taking Linux seriously. On the other hand, I'm running a system with 100% free software thanks to AMD's releasing of documentation for driver writers for ATI cards. And my ATI card with its free drivers allowed me for the first time in many years not only to run FlightGear but also good video performance, desktop effects in KDE and usable performance with anti aliased fonts which is something NVidia never managed to do for me (some known problems with their drivers which never got fixed). Times change. Stefan To follow up the situation with AMD/ATI X11 support has changed dramatically since ATI was purchased by AMD. I think punishing AMD for the past sins of ATI is unfair and counter productive. AMD appears to be bending over backwards to rectify these issues and has made tremendous progress including the support of open source driver developers, where AMD is far better than Nvidia, and on the quality of their closed source driver. Before AMD ATI was really doing a bad job with X11 support and this left AMD with a lot of work to do to fix these issues. More remains to be done but this is something that requires a long term effort to fix and I think AMD is doing about as well as can be expected. Hal -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Sprint What will you do first with EVO, the first 4G phone? Visit sprint.com/first -- http://p.sf.net/sfu/sprint-com-first ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] AI and Traffic Manager
Could someone tell me if the AI and traffic manager are active? Looking at the source, seems a lot of code is commented out. Haven't tried to walk thru the code just yet to figure out logic and flow and data structures. When starting at KSFO the default seems to be four 737's from Air Canada and two 747s at the south end of the terminal, but can't locate the xml file or comand option that stipulates this start condition. are those active AI models or just static objects placed as eye-candy? Any hints would be appreciated ;-) John W. -- The Palm PDK Hot Apps Program offers developers who use the Plug-In Development Kit to bring their C/C++ apps to Palm for a share of $1 Million in cash or HP Products. Visit us here for more details: http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;226879339;13503038;l? http://clk.atdmt.com/CRS/go/247765532/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Startup problem
Op 25-07-10 19:19, Stefan Seifert schreef: On the other hand, I'm running a system with 100% free software thanks to AMD's releasing of documentation for driver writers for ATI cards. And my ATI card with its free drivers allowed me for the first time in many years not only to run FlightGear but also good video performance, desktop effects in KDE and usable performance with anti aliased fonts which is something NVidia never managed to do for me (some known problems with their drivers which never got fixed). Times change. True. But remember how many years it took for AMD to come to this insight... m -- The Palm PDK Hot Apps Program offers developers who use the Plug-In Development Kit to bring their C/C++ apps to Palm for a share of $1 Million in cash or HP Products. Visit us here for more details: http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;226879339;13503038;l? http://clk.atdmt.com/CRS/go/247765532/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] AI and Traffic Manager
Hi John, On Monday, July 26, 2010 06:06:14 am John Wojnaroski wrote: Could someone tell me if the AI and traffic manager are active? Looking at the source, seems a lot of code is commented out. Haven't tried to walk thru the code just yet to figure out logic and flow and data structures. Yep, it's still active. :-) The code's undergone substantial revision about two years ago, which is why there are still a few chunks commented out. Re, the Air Canada 737s, my memory of their origin is a bit rusty to me. Originally, we had a fairly dense demo arond KSFO (thanks to Innis Cunnigham), but after the revision, I build a new demo, highlighting the lastest features, that was centered around my then hometown of Amsterdam, NL. Try for example fgfs --airport=EHAM --runway=24 --com1=121.7 and wait a few seconds for traffic to initialize. For additional information on building traffic files yourself, please have a look at: http://www.flightgear.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23t=8612 or http://wiki.flightgear.org/index.php/Interactive_Traffic#Tools or, more generally: http://wiki.flightgear.org/index.php/Interactive_Traffic Cheers, Durk -- The Palm PDK Hot Apps Program offers developers who use the Plug-In Development Kit to bring their C/C++ apps to Palm for a share of $1 Million in cash or HP Products. Visit us here for more details: http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;226879339;13503038;l? http://clk.atdmt.com/CRS/go/247765532/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Startup problem
Op 26-07-10 07:14, fiers...@zonnet.nl schreef: Op 25-07-10 19:19, Stefan Seifert schreef: On the other hand, I'm running a system with 100% free software thanks to AMD's releasing of documentation for driver writers for ATI cards. And my ATI card with its free drivers allowed me for the first time in many years not only to run FlightGear but also good video performance, desktop effects in KDE and usable performance with anti aliased fonts which is something NVidia never managed to do for me (some known problems with their drivers which never got fixed). Times change. True. But remember how many years it took for AMD to come to this insight... AIT not AMD. Sorry. It took ATI many years, and being purchased by AMD, probably. m -- The Palm PDK Hot Apps Program offers developers who use the Plug-In Development Kit to bring their C/C++ apps to Palm for a share of $1 Million in cash or HP Products. Visit us here for more details: http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;226879339;13503038;l? http://clk.atdmt.com/CRS/go/247765532/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
