Re: [Flightgear-devel] Hey Curt... :)

2010-11-13 Thread James Turner

On 12 Nov 2010, at 23:44, Curtis Olson wrote:

 My personal rule-of-thumb is to only commit when I've got time to watch the 
 Hudson board go green - it's on an hourly poll at the moment, though we can 
 allow other users to manually kick off builds, if you ask Gene nicely.
 
 How do you get a change over to hudson before committing it to git?  (maybe a 
 dumb question?)

Ah, sorry to disappoint, but you have to commit to Git first - unlike some 
setups, we haven't engineered a 'compile before publish' system. Hence my 
ensuring I have time to watch Hudson *after* a commit, and, for example, make a 
fix commit if I broke something.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Segmentation fault in fgrun

2010-11-13 Thread Frederic Bouvier
...
 6) Click Input/Output (it shows
 --generic=socket,out,10,localhost,16661, udp,fgcom, which is
 io-item-1 in the settings file)
 7) Click on --generic=socket,out,10,localhost,16661, udp,fgcom
 8) BOOM, Segmentation fault (core dumped). There is no time to click
 Delete or OK, it just immediately crashes as soon as I click the
 parameter.

It should be fixed now.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightProSim advert on FaceBook

2010-11-13 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 13 Nov 2010 09:26:07 +0800, Innis wrote in message 
blu131-w26c667f2685c89ddeb94d6df...@phx.gbl:

 
 
 
 
 Hi Chris
 
 I would let it go mate. While I feel no better about people making
 money off my work I also feel that it is pretty much or own fault.

..you are here giving him a license to carry on.  While you are
entitled to license out your own works as you please, you would
need the other peoples license to license out their works.

 The only way you are going to stop this guy is to make it a pain in
 the arse for him. Until we are prepared to fight fire with fire by
 releasing our own commercial copy  then he has an open field. With
 the depth of talent we have here surely we could come up with a water
 making system that causes him some headaches.Even if it only causes
 him to spend an hour extra each time. While we sit and belly ache
 about it he will just continue so the ball is in our court.
 
 Cheers
 Innis
 
 


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightProSim advert on FaceBook

2010-11-13 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 16:21:41 -0800 (PST), Chris wrote in message 
429654.31507...@web56904.mail.re3.yahoo.com:

 Another avenue I have considered is a New Zealand consumer affairs
 program named Fair Go. This TV show has an excellent track record
 of exposing scammers, and sticking up for those who are being shafted
 by scammers. The format is a group of presenters who research claims
 of unfair treatment, then in many cases try to confront the scammers
 - thats the part where the scammers usually turn tail and run or get
 aggro towards the camera. Quite often however the scammers cave in to
 the unwanted media pressure and relent, paying back money they've
 misappropriated, or as the name of the program suggests, delivering a
 Fair Go. Those extra prickly scammers who outright refuse often
 find themselves in court, as the Fair Go team have a number of legal
 guys at their disposal, to advise on cases considered worthy of
 elevating to the law courts.
 
 Fair Go have taken on anyone from dodgy car dealers, to Microsoft. If
 the team at Fair Go think it is a case worthy of pursuing, they'll do
 it with gusto, harassing scammers, and making a laughing stock of
 them on TV. Not good PR for the scammers.
 
 Check out youtube clips with a search fair go nz to see how the
 show operates.
 
 Regards,
 
 Chris Wilkinson, YBBN/BNE.

..now we're getting constructive. ;o)

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Segmentation fault in fgrun

2010-11-13 Thread fierst42
Yes. Confirmed.

Thanks Fred.



Op 13-11-10 11:02, Frederic Bouvier schreef:
 It should be fixed now.
 Regards,
 -Fred




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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Hey Curt... :)

2010-11-13 Thread Curtis Olson
On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 3:57 AM, James Turner wrote:


 On 12 Nov 2010, at 23:44, Curtis Olson wrote:

  My personal rule-of-thumb is to only commit when I've got time to watch
 the Hudson board go green - it's on an hourly poll at the moment, though we
 can allow other users to manually kick off builds, if you ask Gene nicely.
 
  How do you get a change over to hudson before committing it to git?
  (maybe a dumb question?)

 Ah, sorry to disappoint, but you have to commit to Git first - unlike some
 setups, we haven't engineered a 'compile before publish' system. Hence my
 ensuring I have time to watch Hudson *after* a commit, and, for example,
 make a fix commit if I broke something.


Ok, I see ... misread your original statement.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Hey Curt... :)

2010-11-13 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 13 Nov 2010 09:57:14 +, James wrote in message 
0275fe52-84ce-4e88-a29c-b1382f3ae...@mac.com:

 
 On 12 Nov 2010, at 23:44, Curtis Olson wrote:
 
  My personal rule-of-thumb is to only commit when I've got time to
  watch the Hudson board go green - it's on an hourly poll at the
  moment, though we can allow other users to manually kick off
  builds, if you ask Gene nicely.
  
  How do you get a change over to hudson before committing it to
  git?  (maybe a dumb question?)
 
 Ah, sorry to disappoint, but you have to commit to Git first - unlike
 some setups, we haven't engineered a 'compile before publish' system.
 Hence my ensuring I have time to watch Hudson *after* a commit, and,
 for example, make a fix commit if I broke something.

..an idea; a bad commit that doesn't compile successfully, 
can it be reverted automatically?  That way git would stay 
unbroken, until new unbroken code is added etc and compiles 
successfully.


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[Flightgear-devel] FGFS from GIT fails to compile

2010-11-13 Thread Mike
Dear List,

I'm regularly updating my installation from GIT (Ubuntu x64 2.6.32-26). Last 
compile run with sources of last weekend worked fine. Today I wanted to renew 
my stuff but run into an error during compile. Maybe someone knows what 
happens. I'm puzzled as Hudson looks fine...

Suspicious output:

make[2]: Betrete Verzeichnis '/home/user/fgfs/fgfs/flightgear/src/Main'
g++ -DPKGLIBDIR=\/home/user/fgfs/install/fgfs/share/FlightGear\ -g -O2 -Wall 
-I/home/user/fgfs/install/simgear -D_REENTRANT   
-L/home/user/fgfs/install/simgear/lib -L/home/user/fgfs/install/plib/lib 
-L/usr/local/lib -L/home/user/fgfs/install/simgear/lib 
-L/home/user/fgfs/install/plib/lib -L/usr/local/lib -o fgfs bootstrap.o 
libMain.a ../../src/Aircraft/libAircraft.a  ../../src/Cockpit/libCockpit.a 
../../src/Cockpit/built_in/libBuilt_in.a ../../src/Network/libNetwork.a 
../../src/FDM/libFlight.a ../../src/FDM/ExternalNet/libExternalNet.a 
../../src/FDM/ExternalPipe/libExternalPipe.a ../../src/FDM/JSBSim/libJSBSim.a 
../../src/FDM/JSBSim/initialization/libInit.a 
../../src/FDM/JSBSim/models/libModels.a 
../../src/FDM/JSBSim/models/flight_control/libFlightControl.a 
../../src/FDM/JSBSim/models/atmosphere/libAtmosphere.a 
../../src/FDM/JSBSim/models/propulsion/libPropulsion.a 
../../src/FDM/JSBSim/input_output/libInputOutput.a 
../../src/FDM/JSBSim/math/libMath.a
 ../../src/FDM/YASim/libYASim.a ../../src/FDM/LaRCsim/libLaRCsim.a 
../../src/FDM/UIUCModel/libUIUCModel.a ../../src/FDM/SP/libSPFDM.a 
../../src/GUI/libGUI.a ../../src/Autopilot/libAutopilot.a 
../../src/Input/libInput.a ../../src/Instrumentation/KLN89/libKLN89.a 
../../src/Instrumentation/libInstrumentation.a 
../../src/Instrumentation/HUD/libHUD.a ../../src/Model/libModel.a 
../../src/Navaids/libNavaids.a ../../src/Scenery/libScenery.a 
../../src/Scripting/libScripting.a ../../src/Sound/libSound.a 
../../src/Airports/libAirports.a ../../src/MultiPlayer/libMultiPlayer.a 
../../src/AIModel/libAIModel.a ../../src/ATC/libATC.a 
../../src/Systems/libSystems.a ../../src/Time/libTime.a 
../../src/Traffic/libTraffic.a ../../src/Environment/libEnvironment.a -lsgroute 
-lsgsky -lsgsound -lsgephem -lsgtgdb -lsgmodel -lsgbvh -lsgmaterial -lsgutil 
-lsgtiming -lsgio -lsgscreen -lsgmath -lsgbucket -lsgprops -lsgdebug -lsgmagvar 
-lsgmisc -lsgnasal -lsgxml -lsgsound -lsgserial
 -lsgstructure -lsgenvironment -lplibpuaux -lplibpu -lplibfnt -lplibjs -lplibsg 
-lplibul   -lpthread   -lz -lglut -lGLU -lGL -lXmu -lXt -lSM -lICE -lXi -lXext 
-lX11 -lrt -ldl -lm  -lalut -lopenal -lrt -ldl -lm   -lpthread  -ldbus-1 -lhal 
-losgFX -losgParticle -losgSim -losgViewer -losgGA -losgText -losgDB -losgUtil 
-losg -lOpenThreads -ljpeg 
libMain.a(fgviewer.o): In function `Options':
/home/user/fgfs/install/OpenSceneGraph/include/osgDB/Options:109: undefined 
reference to `osgDB::Options::parsePluginStringData(std::basic_stringchar, 
std::char_traitschar, std::allocatorchar  const, char, char)'
libMain.a(splash.o): In function `fgCreateSplashCamera':
/home/user/fgfs/fgfs/flightgear/src/Main/splash.cxx:292: undefined reference to 
`osgText::TextBase::setFont(std::basic_stringchar, std::char_traitschar, 
std::allocatorchar  const)'
/home/user/fgfs/fgfs/flightgear/src/Main/splash.cxx:293: undefined reference to 
`osgText::TextBase::setCharacterSize(float)'
/home/user/fgfs/fgfs/flightgear/src/Main/splash.cxx:302: undefined reference to 
`osgText::TextBase::setFont(std::basic_stringchar, std::char_traitschar, 
std::allocatorchar  const)'
/home/user/fgfs/fgfs/flightgear/src/Main/splash.cxx:303: undefined reference to 
`osgText::TextBase::setCharacterSize(float)'
/home/user/fgfs/fgfs/flightgear/src/Main/splash.cxx:313: undefined reference to 
`osgText::TextBase::setFont(std::basic_stringchar, std::char_traitschar, 
std::allocatorchar  const)'
/home/user/fgfs/fgfs/flightgear/src/Main/splash.cxx:314: undefined reference to 
`osgText::TextBase::setCharacterSize(float)'
../../src/Instrumentation/libInstrumentation.a(wxradar.o): In function 
`osgText::TextBase::setFont(osgText::Font*)':
/home/user/fgfs/install/OpenSceneGraph/include/osgText/TextBase:43: undefined 
reference to `osgText::TextBase::setFont(osg::ref_ptrosgText::Font)'
../../src/Instrumentation/libInstrumentation.a(wxradar.o): In function 
`wxRadarBg::update_data(SGPropertyNode const*, double, double, double, double, 
bool)':
/home/user/fgfs/fgfs/flightgear/src/Instrumentation/wxradar.cxx:566: undefined 
reference to `osgText::TextBase::setCharacterSize(float)'
../../src/Scenery/libScenery.a(tilemgr.o): In function `Options':
/home/user/fgfs/install/OpenSceneGraph/include/osgDB/Options:109: undefined 
reference to `osgDB::Options::parsePluginStringData(std::basic_stringchar, 
std::char_traitschar, std::allocatorchar  const, char, char)'
/home/user/fgfs/install/simgear/lib/libsgtgdb.a(TileEntry.o): In function 
`simgear::TileEntry::loadTileByFileName(std::basic_stringchar, 
std::char_traitschar, std::allocatorchar  const, osgDB::Options const*)':

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Hey Curt... :)

2010-11-13 Thread Alex Perry
On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 7:35 AM, Arnt Karlsen a...@c2i.net wrote:
 On Sat, 13 Nov 2010 09:57:14 +, James wrote in message
 On 12 Nov 2010, at 23:44, Curtis Olson wrote:
  My personal rule-of-thumb is to only commit when I've got time to
  watch the Hudson board go green - it's on an hourly poll at the
  moment, though we can allow other users to manually kick off
  builds, if you ask Gene nicely.

 Ah, sorry to disappoint, but you have to commit to Git first - unlike
 some setups, we haven't engineered a 'compile before publish' system.
 Hence my ensuring I have time to watch Hudson *after* a commit, and,
 for example, make a fix commit if I broke something.

 ..an idea; a bad commit that doesn't compile successfully,
 can it be reverted automatically?  That way git would stay
 unbroken, until new unbroken code is added etc and compiles
 successfully.

I like automatic build systems which, if ..
* a commit fails to build for any platform,
* the prior build passed for every platform,
* only one commit happened in that time,
* the word CRITICAL is nowhere in the change description,
... automatically rolls back ... and tells someone.

As a bonus, if it fails at the third bullet, it can automatically
submit builds for all the intervening releases in an attempt to make
the bullet pass.

As another bonus, after the rollback, the fifth bullet looks back at
the first bullet to see whether it failed to build for every platform
and, if so, it would be nice for someone to be notified.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Hey Curt... :)

2010-11-13 Thread Tim Moore
There's never been a guarantee that the development sources compile for
everybody at all moments. That's why they are development sources. I
appreciate the Hudson process and quite often the change to get things
compiling on a given platform are obvious, but sometimes they aren't and one
needs to rely on the help of those who know the other platforms better. I
don't see why they would have get their own copy of the offending source
code from anywhere other than the next branch.

Tim

On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 5:57 PM, Alex Perry alex.pe...@ieee.org wrote:

 On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 7:35 AM, Arnt Karlsen a...@c2i.net wrote:
  On Sat, 13 Nov 2010 09:57:14 +, James wrote in message
  On 12 Nov 2010, at 23:44, Curtis Olson wrote:
   My personal rule-of-thumb is to only commit when I've got time to
   watch the Hudson board go green - it's on an hourly poll at the
   moment, though we can allow other users to manually kick off
   builds, if you ask Gene nicely.
 
  Ah, sorry to disappoint, but you have to commit to Git first - unlike
  some setups, we haven't engineered a 'compile before publish' system.
  Hence my ensuring I have time to watch Hudson *after* a commit, and,
  for example, make a fix commit if I broke something.
 
  ..an idea; a bad commit that doesn't compile successfully,
  can it be reverted automatically?  That way git would stay
  unbroken, until new unbroken code is added etc and compiles
  successfully.

 I like automatic build systems which, if ..
 * a commit fails to build for any platform,
 * the prior build passed for every platform,
 * only one commit happened in that time,
 * the word CRITICAL is nowhere in the change description,
 ... automatically rolls back ... and tells someone.

 As a bonus, if it fails at the third bullet, it can automatically
 submit builds for all the intervening releases in an attempt to make
 the bullet pass.

 As another bonus, after the rollback, the fifth bullet looks back at
 the first bullet to see whether it failed to build for every platform
 and, if so, it would be nice for someone to be notified.


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] METAR stopped working

2010-11-13 Thread ThorstenB
 Unfortunately this means METAR is broken (probably permanently) for
 all previous FG versions now...

As a follow-up to the METAR issue: there actually is a workaround for
FG 1.9.x and 2.0 - by using a proxy server. The requests sent by FG to
a configured proxy server are fine. And the actual HTTP request for
the weather server is then generated by the proxy - which, of course,
also works. So this revives METAR for older FG versions.
Only takes a valid proxy server given to the fgfs command-line. More
details in the forum:
http://www.flightgear.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10002

cheers,
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[Flightgear-devel] Solved: FGFS from GIT fails to compile

2010-11-13 Thread Mike
Dear List,

thanks to James the issue of fgfs not compiling due to a missing reference is 
not sucking any more after push ff979312 :o)

Cheers,
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Hey Curt... :)

2010-11-13 Thread Gene Buckle
On Sat, 13 Nov 2010, James Turner wrote:


 On 12 Nov 2010, at 23:44, Curtis Olson wrote:

 My personal rule-of-thumb is to only commit when I've got time to watch the 
 Hudson board go green - it's on an hourly poll at the moment, though we can 
 allow other users to manually kick off builds, if you ask Gene nicely.

 How do you get a change over to hudson before committing it to git?  (maybe 
 a dumb question?)

 Ah, sorry to disappoint, but you have to commit to Git first - unlike 
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 Hence my ensuring I have time to watch Hudson *after* a commit, and, for 
 example, make a fix commit if I broke something.

What about offering those with commit rights the ability to trigger builds 
on their own?  That way if they break it, they can fix it and re-start the 
build.  I've enabled the email the person that broke the build option, 
but I don't know how correctly that works yet.

g.


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[Flightgear-devel] TerraGear Problem

2010-11-13 Thread J. Holden
Hi,

I'm using the most recent .exe build of TerraGear from the uni-duisburg website.

I believe I have followed all the steps properly to set up the work directory - 
I have run hgtchop, terrafit, genapts, and ogr-decode on everything, and have a 
work folder which appears to resemble what it should resemble.

However I am getting a problem with fgfs-construct when it goes to clip the 
shapefiles - the shapefiles should be properly clipped to each other already, 
but the program crashes immediately after it tries to clip the files for the 
first time.

I originally thought it was a problem with ocean - there is one tile in the 
scenery build which is all ocean (it's a 2x4 degree build) and even after 
removing that from the cycle it still crashes on first instance.

I have no idea what the exact error is because this is an executable on Windows 
XP and the error crash doesn't give you any good information on what happened.

How might I fix this problem, not including compiling the program myself?

Cheers
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