Re: [Flightgear-devel] METAR wrong, at least on one airport
If I check the METAR data for LFST using another program (AeroWeather on the iPhone for example or the metar utility for debian from the http://packages.debian.org/unstable/utils/metar package), I receive correct METAR data for LFST. So METAR fetching in FlightGear is wrong. FlightGear uses NOAA as a data source for METAR. The url to fetch the data is http://weather.noaa.gov/pub/data/observations/metar/stations/.txt where xxx is the ICAO 4-Letter code of the airport in uppercase. We simply rely on the NOAA data - if the return outdated METAR to our request, we are lost. Currently I receive up-to-date METAR for LFST, so I assume a hickup on the noaa server. Torsten -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 L3. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today http://p.sf.net/sfu/msIE9-sfdev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] METAR wrong, at least on one airport
On Nov 16, Torsten Dreyer wrote: FlightGear uses NOAA as a data source for METAR. The url to fetch the data is http://weather.noaa.gov/pub/data/observations/metar/stations/.txt where xxx is the ICAO 4-Letter code of the airport in uppercase. We simply rely on the NOAA data - if the return outdated METAR to our request, we are lost. Currently I receive up-to-date METAR for LFST, so I assume a hickup on the noaa server. Thank you for your answer. -- bug -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 L3. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today http://p.sf.net/sfu/msIE9-sfdev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] ProFlightSimulator The Most Realistic Flight Sim Ever
?Looks familiar? http://www.proflightsimulator.com/index3.html Not to be confused with FlightProSim (obviously). Mally - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1153 / Virus Database: 424/3259 - Release Date: 11/15/10 -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 L3. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today http://p.sf.net/sfu/msIE9-sfdev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] ProFlightSimulator The Most Realistic Flight Sim Ever
Dan Freeman has a few articles on Ezine, however I have just reported him to Ezine. Ezine reports he is based in the USA, yet his business trades out of NZ. Dodgy. I have suggested Ezine remove him from their site, based on his/her/its continued unwillingness to adhere to the explicit conditions of the GPL, in selling these opensource softwares. If it is within my power to do so, I will do what I can to make life difficult for this scum. Regards, Chris Wilkinson, YBBN/BNE. From: Mally ma...@tklm.freeserve.co.uk To: FlightGear developers discussions flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, 17 November, 2010 11:43:05 AM Subject: [Flightgear-devel] ProFlightSimulator The Most Realistic Flight Sim Ever ?Looks familiar? http://www.proflightsimulator.com/index3.html Not to be confused with FlightProSim (obviously). Mally - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1153 / Virus Database: 424/3259 - Release Date: 11/15/10 -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 L3. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today http://p.sf.net/sfu/msIE9-sfdev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 L3. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today http://p.sf.net/sfu/msIE9-sfdev2dev___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] ProFlightSimulator The Most Realistic Flight Sim Ever
On Wed, 17 Nov 2010, Mally wrote: ?Looks familiar? http://www.proflightsimulator.com/index3.html Not to be confused with FlightProSim (obviously). I'm curious about the claimed SimConnect FSUIPC compatibility. :D Which one of you lurking geniuses submitted THAT patch, hrm? *laughs* g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 L3. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today http://p.sf.net/sfu/msIE9-sfdev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] ProFlightSimulator The Most Realistic Flight Sim Ever
Out of curiosity, has anyone been able to obtain a copy of their source code? Could this be posted in a known location? Or is there a known link for downloading their code? It might be useful for us to maintain a reference copy ourselves somewhere. It should be no problem to get a copy of their code, right? On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 6:57 PM, Gene Buckle wrote: On Wed, 17 Nov 2010, Mally wrote: ?Looks familiar? http://www.proflightsimulator.com/index3.html Not to be confused with FlightProSim (obviously). I'm curious about the claimed SimConnect FSUIPC compatibility. :D Which one of you lurking geniuses submitted THAT patch, hrm? *laughs* g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 L3. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today http://p.sf.net/sfu/msIE9-sfdev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Curtis Olson: http://www.atiak.com - http://aem.umn.edu/~uav/ http://www.flightgear.org - http://www.flightgear.org/blogs/category/curt/http://www.flightgear.org/blogs/category/personal/curt/ -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 L3. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today http://p.sf.net/sfu/msIE9-sfdev2dev___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] ProFlightSimulator The Most Realistic Flight Sim Ever
For the Windows brethren I'd be inclined to run a virus checker over that package before opening it. Spybots, virii, and trojans run hand in hand with the scammer community... I'm curious to see how old that source is, so will download a copy tonite... Regards, Chris Wilkinson, YBBN/BNE. From: Curtis Olson curtol...@gmail.com To: FlightGear developers discussions flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, 17 November, 2010 12:47:43 PM Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] ProFlightSimulator The Most Realistic Flight Sim Ever Out of curiosity, has anyone been able to obtain a copy of their source code? Could this be posted in a known location? Or is there a known link for downloading their code? It might be useful for us to maintain a reference copy ourselves somewhere. It should be no problem to get a copy of their code, right? On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 6:57 PM, Gene Buckle wrote: On Wed, 17 Nov 2010, Mally wrote: ?Looks familiar? http://www.proflightsimulator.com/index3.html Not to be confused with FlightProSim (obviously). I'm curious about the claimed SimConnect FSUIPC compatibility. :D Which one of you lurking geniuses submitted THAT patch, hrm? *laughs* g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 L3. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today http://p.sf.net/sfu/msIE9-sfdev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Curtis Olson: http://www.atiak.com - http://aem.umn.edu/~uav/ http://www.flightgear.org - http://www.flightgear.org/blogs/category/curt/ -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 L3. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today http://p.sf.net/sfu/msIE9-sfdev2dev___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] ProFlightSimulator The Most Realistic Flight Sim Ever
While I tend to ignore these now, I am giving them a poor WOT score :) On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 8:07 PM, Chris Wilkinson blobster...@yahoo.com.au wrote: For the Windows brethren I'd be inclined to run a virus checker over that package before opening it. Spybots, virii, and trojans run hand in hand with the scammer community... I'm curious to see how old that source is, so will download a copy tonite... Regards, Chris Wilkinson, YBBN/BNE. From: Curtis Olson curtol...@gmail.com To: FlightGear developers discussions flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, 17 November, 2010 12:47:43 PM Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] ProFlightSimulator The Most Realistic Flight Sim Ever Out of curiosity, has anyone been able to obtain a copy of their source code? Could this be posted in a known location? Or is there a known link for downloading their code? It might be useful for us to maintain a reference copy ourselves somewhere. It should be no problem to get a copy of their code, right? On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 6:57 PM, Gene Buckle wrote: On Wed, 17 Nov 2010, Mally wrote: ?Looks familiar? http://www.proflightsimulator.com/index3.html Not to be confused with FlightProSim (obviously). I'm curious about the claimed SimConnect FSUIPC compatibility. :D Which one of you lurking geniuses submitted THAT patch, hrm? *laughs* g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 L3. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today http://p.sf.net/sfu/msIE9-sfdev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Curtis Olson: http://www.atiak.com - http://aem.umn.edu/~uav/ http://www.flightgear.org - http://www.flightgear.org/blogs/category/curt/ -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 L3. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today http://p.sf.net/sfu/msIE9-sfdev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 L3. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today http://p.sf.net/sfu/msIE9-sfdev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] METAR wrong, at least on one airport
On Tue, 2010-11-16 at 17:52 +0100, Torsten Dreyer wrote: If I check the METAR data for LFST using another program (AeroWeather on the iPhone for example or the metar utility for debian from the http://packages.debian.org/unstable/utils/metar package), I receive correct METAR data for LFST. So METAR fetching in FlightGear is wrong. FlightGear uses NOAA as a data source for METAR. The url to fetch the data is http://weather.noaa.gov/pub/data/observations/metar/stations/.txt where xxx is the ICAO 4-Letter code of the airport in uppercase. We simply rely on the NOAA data - if the return outdated METAR to our request, we are lost. Currently I receive up-to-date METAR for LFST, so I assume a hickup on the noaa server. Torsten I have also seen this twice (a week apart) for YSSY and just put it down to NOAA hiccup for a while (it lasted for more than 24 hours this hiccup..) But would it be possible to accept old data, just not time going backwards. I feel any METAR data is better than none, so perhaps; 1. accept any any valid METAR data, log warning message if it is old, 2. don't update METAR data if the date is older than current METAR date, log severe message. S. -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 L3. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today http://p.sf.net/sfu/msIE9-sfdev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
