Re: [Flightgear-devel] moving map of Hondajet or Da-42 // nextscenerygeneration

2011-11-02 Thread Geoff McLane
On Wed, 2011-11-02 at 19:31 +, Alan Teeder wrote:
> Geoff
> I have just tried the Hondajet and this works.
> 
> ( If needed press Ctrl-C to highlight the hot-spot controls.)
> 
> On the left hand screen (the PFD) I pressed the 1st button on the bottom row 
> below the screen.  The main flight instruments (horizon etc.) appeared on 
> the screen.
> 
> I repeated this with the right hand screen (the MFD) and the map came up.
> The buttons are dynamic and their function depends upon PFD and MFD mode 
> setting.
> 
> Perhaps the author(s) could offer some help. ;-)
> 
> If you want to try the same with my TSR2, 
> (http://v-twin.dynip.sapo.pt/alan/VickersAircaft/TSR2/TSR2.zip) operate the 
> 'lamp select' toggle switch below the brilliance control, which is on the 
> bottom left of the circular map display.
> 
> Alan
> 

Hi Alan,

Thank you ;=))

Yes, on both the hondajet and da42, clicking the 
first button on the bottom row of each, the PFD,
and MFD, DID THE TRICK ;=))

I 'thought' I had tried this before but obviously 
NOT ;=()

And reminding me of the ctrl+c, to highlight the 
'clickable' items also helped... I had forgotten 
this ;=(( So many things/keys to remember...

The display is BEAUTIFUL ;=)) 

Now, even more than before, I want DETAILED, 
feature rich images ;=))

If only I can find a WMS server to fully oblige... 
and maybe as some have suggested, that could be 
the online, if available, 'source' of the 
display...

And/or convince Atlas/Map to also add airport/navaid 
overlays onto the maps, like it did in the past... 
either as an option to Map, during the map creation, 
or have a capability in Atlas to dump the 
maps-with-nice-detailed-overlays to disk...

BUT ANYWAY, TAR MUCHLY ;=))

Just a idle thought... lots of aircraft could benefit 
from having such PFD/MFD displays... maybe as a 
sort of hand held device you carry on board, 
without all the modes/autopilot features, since 
we do need to keep the 'realism' of only what 
exists in each aircraft at manufacture...

Sort of like a 'super' hand-held GPS device... or 
maybe we have that already???

Have downloaded your TSR2.zip - quite a slow 
download, but no problem - and thank you. 

I assume I unzip this into a new folder -
 /Aircraft/TSR2 
and looking forward to trying this also as 
soon as time allows...

Many thanks again...

Regards,
Geoff.



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[Flightgear-devel] ..both fgdata mirrors still gives me the same good old un-split fgdata?

2011-11-02 Thread Arnt Karlsen
Hi,


..does both git clone git://gitorious.org/fg/fgdata.git and
git clone git://mapserver.flightgear.org/fgdata still give 
us the same good old un-split fgdata?

..I found them slightly different: ...
Cloning into fgdata...
remote: Counting objects: 171405, done.
remote: Compressing objects: 100% (66543/66543), done.
^Carnt@nb6:~/FG-git$ 1% (19898/171405), 191.00 MiB | 48 KiB/s
arnt@nb6:~/FG-git$ ./download_and_compile.sh -s -a n -p n -j 2 DATA
**
**
* Warning, the compilation process   *
* is going to use 9 or more Gbytes   *
* of space and at least a couple of  *
* hours to download and build FG.*
**
* Please, be patient ..  *
**
**

 FGFS **

Cloning into fgdata...
remote: Counting objects: 171402, done.
remote: Compressing objects: 100% (70966/70966), done.

...especially speedwise. ;o) 

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--- /home/arnt/Downloads/download_and_compile.sh	2011-11-02 22:30:53.0 +0100
+++ download_and_compile.sh	2011-11-02 22:14:18.0 +0100
@@ -731,7 +731,9 @@
 			then
 EXDIR=$(pwd)
 cd $INSTALL_DIR_FGFS
-echo -n "GIT DATA FROM git://gitorious.org/fg/fgdata.git ... " >> $LOGFILE
+# echo -n "GIT DATA FROM git://gitorious.org/fg/fgdata.git ... " >> $LOGFILE
+# 
+echo -n "GIT DATA FROM git clone git://mapserver.flightgear.org/fgdata ... " >> $LOGFILE
 #cvs -z5 -d :pserver:cvsguest:gu...@cvs.flightgear.org:/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9 login
 #cvs -z5 -d :pserver:cvsgu...@cvs.flightgear.org:/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9 co data
 
@@ -740,7 +742,9 @@
 	echo "fgdata exists already."
 else
 	# no repository yet - need to clone a fresh one
-	git clone git://gitorious.org/fg/fgdata.git
+	# git clone git://gitorious.org/fg/fgdata.git
+	# 
+	git clone git://mapserver.flightgear.org/fgdata
 fi
 
 cd fgdata
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Terragear now sans plib

2011-11-02 Thread Martin Spott
James Turner wrote:
> On 2 Nov 2011, at 18:51, James Turner wrote:
> 
>>> In normal operation, "raw2ascii" should almost immediately start
>>> writing lots of files to "${WORKDIR}/SRTM-30-ASCII/e020n90/", but with
>>> current simgear/terragear-cs I'm just getting an insane number of
>>> lines:
>> 
>> Thanks Martin, will take a look.
> 
> Fixed now, at least, it generated a ton of .dem files for me.

Really ?  And you're on simgear/next and terragear-cs/cmake-integration
without local changes ?

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Terragear memory usage issue

2011-11-02 Thread Jason Cox
Tom 
thanks for that

terragear-cs81244fb0fe41dfc9d87b28baffdd5754b3801952

simgear 6250f675db9fdd6f2aef7be43207cd0ac0b6baeb

Jason


On Wed, 2011-11-02 at 07:12 -0700, Tom P wrote:
> Hi Jason
> 
> 
> You can open a terminal in the terragear-cs directory and type:
> 
> 
>   git show
> 
> 
> The first  lines show the commit ID, committer and short description
> for the last commit, and the commit ID is the version information you
> are looking for,
> 
> 
> Hope this helps,
> 
> 
>   Tom
> 
> 
> On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Jason Cox  wrote:
> Chris,
> short of knowing how to tell versions of code with git all I
> can say is
> that I pulled the repo on the 20th of October for both
> terragear-cs and
> compiled it against the main simgear of the same day.
> 
> If there is a way to ask git the version then let me know and
> I will
> report back for you.
> 
> Jason
> 
> PS I have uploaded some more scenery for NSW,Vic and Tas to my
> dropbox
> account for those interested
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3028956/Aus-SE_Scenery.tar.bz2
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 2011-11-01 at 08:03 +0100, Christian Schmitt wrote:
> > Jason Cox wrote:
> >
> > > I would try a larger area, say 1x1 deg or larger and then
> and then you
> > > will see the list grow to include tiles that are no longer
> needed.
> > >
> >
> > I created a 2x3 degree area. No problems. What terragear-cs
> version do you
> > use and against which simgear do you compile it?
> >
> > Will now test even further and create another area.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] moving map of Hondajet or Da-42 // nextscenerygeneration

2011-11-02 Thread Alan Teeder
Geoff
I have just tried the Hondajet and this works.

( If needed press Ctrl-C to highlight the hot-spot controls.)

On the left hand screen (the PFD) I pressed the 1st button on the bottom row 
below the screen.  The main flight instruments (horizon etc.) appeared on 
the screen.

I repeated this with the right hand screen (the MFD) and the map came up.
The buttons are dynamic and their function depends upon PFD and MFD mode 
setting.

Perhaps the author(s) could offer some help. ;-)

If you want to try the same with my TSR2, 
(http://v-twin.dynip.sapo.pt/alan/VickersAircaft/TSR2/TSR2.zip) operate the 
'lamp select' toggle switch below the brilliance control, which is on the 
bottom left of the circular map display.

Alan



-Original Message- 
From: Geoff McLane
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 6:48 PM
To: FlightGear developers discussions
Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] moving map of Hondajet or Da-42 // 
nextscenerygeneration

On Mon, 2011-10-31 at 09:54 +, Alan Teeder wrote:
> That means the maps should be in /home/michael/.fgfs/zkv1000/maps/terrain
> (note /terrain at the end!).
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: Michael Sgier
> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 7:42 AM
> To: FlightGear developers discussions
> Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] moving map of Hondajet or Da-42 //
> nextscenerygeneration
>
> Thanks Alan.
> No wonder it doesn't show anything:
>
> /home/michael/.fgfs/zkv1000/maps
> ../../../../../../../../../home/michael/.fgfs/zkv1000/maps
> zkv1000 loaded
> zkv1000 PFD switched on!
> zkv1000 MFD switched on!
>

Hi,

Ok, I moved the maps, and get the same output,
with my home path of course, except the
'switched on' part...

How do I switch them ON?

I think I have moved/clicked EVERYTHING I
could find in both the hondajet and da42,
and still no map display...

Maybe I missed this information...

Regards,
Geoff.



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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Terragear now sans plib

2011-11-02 Thread James Turner

On 2 Nov 2011, at 18:51, James Turner wrote:

>> In normal operation, "raw2ascii" should almost immediately start
>> writing lots of files to "${WORKDIR}/SRTM-30-ASCII/e020n90/", but with
>> current simgear/terragear-cs I'm just getting an insane number of
>> lines:
> 
> Thanks Martin, will take a look.

Fixed now, at least, it generated a ton of .dem files for me.

(Minor tweak to the config.h creation - I suspect there's actually a more 
subtle bug in rawdem.c, but that's not a file we've actually changed at all, so 
the CMake behaviour matches the automake behaviour now)

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Terragear now sans plib

2011-11-02 Thread James Turner

On 2 Nov 2011, at 18:33, Martin Spott wrote:

> In normal operation, "raw2ascii" should almost immediately start
> writing lots of files to "${WORKDIR}/SRTM-30-ASCII/e020n90/", but with
> current simgear/terragear-cs I'm just getting an insane number of
> lines:

Thanks Martin, will take a look.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] moving map of Hondajet or Da-42 // nextscenerygeneration

2011-11-02 Thread Geoff McLane
On Mon, 2011-10-31 at 09:54 +, Alan Teeder wrote:
> That means the maps should be in /home/michael/.fgfs/zkv1000/maps/terrain 
> (note /terrain at the end!).
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Michael Sgier
> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 7:42 AM
> To: FlightGear developers discussions
> Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] moving map of Hondajet or Da-42 // 
> nextscenerygeneration
> 
> Thanks Alan.
> No wonder it doesn't show anything:
> 
> /home/michael/.fgfs/zkv1000/maps
> ../../../../../../../../../home/michael/.fgfs/zkv1000/maps
> zkv1000 loaded
> zkv1000 PFD switched on!
> zkv1000 MFD switched on!
> 

Hi,

Ok, I moved the maps, and get the same output, 
with my home path of course, except the 
'switched on' part...

How do I switch them ON?

I think I have moved/clicked EVERYTHING I 
could find in both the hondajet and da42, 
and still no map display...

Maybe I missed this information...

Regards,
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Terragear now sans plib

2011-11-02 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott wrote:

> Yes, "raw2ascii" doesn't work with both "simgear" and "terragear-cs"
> HEAD and therefore "demchop" is still untested.  I'll provide a test
> case as soon as time permits - spare time is a bit tight these days.

Ok, try this - get the data files from:

  ftp://ftp.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/GIS/GISData/SRTM/version2_1/HGT/SRTM30/e020n90/

... and run:

DATADIR=${HOME}/archive/GIS/GISData/SRTM/version2_1/HGT/SRTM30
WORKDIR=${HOME}/workdir
mkdir -p ${WORKDIR}/tmp
cd ${WORKDIR}/tmp
unzip ${DATADIR}/e020n90/e020n90.dem.zip
unzip ${DATADIR}/e020n90/e020n90.hdr.zip
mkdir -p ${WORKDIR}/SRTM-30-ASCII/e020n90
raw2ascii E020N90 ${WORKDIR}/SRTM-30-ASCII/e020n90


In normal operation, "raw2ascii" should almost immediately start
writing lots of files to "${WORKDIR}/SRTM-30-ASCII/e020n90/", but with
current simgear/terragear-cs I'm just getting an insane number of
lines:

 - ignore for now


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Serving maps from internet;

2011-11-02 Thread Geoff McLane
Hi Martin,

Thanks for the reply...

Sorry to disturb you again. I know you are 
probably quite busy, some of which may be getting 
ready for FSWeekEnd - I will not be able to 
attend this year ;=(( - but I do not quite 
understand mapserver's WMS response...

I send a URL with say a BBOX -
&SRS=EPSG:900913
&BBOX=755972.40132839,6797404.6358777,\
765756.34094714,6807188.5754964

That is exactly at a Resolution of 9783.93961875...
and get a reply -

[An error occurred: Current x value 755972.401328 is 
too far from tile corner x 753363.347055]

It seems as if I MUST know the exact boundaries, the 
precise corners of an 'existing' tile, or something...

Earlier I was getting an error like can not match 
resolution, until I started using exact resolution 
values from the capabilities xml...

Maybe, as usual, I am doing something really 
stupid ;=((

The full text of this last run is here, with 
the URLS used, and various other 'debug' 
information, like the equivalent WSG84 values -
 http://geoffair.org/tmp/templog.txt

This run was using LAYERS=customscene, but I have 
tried various layers listed in the capabilities 
xml, but always with the same result...
x value too far... even though in some case 
also 'quite' close...

Hope you can help...

Regards,
Geoff.

PS: OT: Just discovered Evolution WILL fill in the 
dev list email address if I use [Reply All] instead 
of just [Reply]. One mystery solved ;=))



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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Terragear memory usage issue

2011-11-02 Thread Tom P
Hi Jason

You can open a terminal in the terragear-cs directory and type:

  git show

The first  lines show the commit ID, committer and short description for
the last commit, and the commit ID is the version information you are
looking for,

Hope this helps,

  Tom


On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Jason Cox  wrote:

> Chris,
> short of knowing how to tell versions of code with git all I can say is
> that I pulled the repo on the 20th of October for both terragear-cs and
> compiled it against the main simgear of the same day.
>
> If there is a way to ask git the version then let me know and I will
> report back for you.
>
> Jason
>
> PS I have uploaded some more scenery for NSW,Vic and Tas to my dropbox
> account for those interested
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3028956/Aus-SE_Scenery.tar.bz2
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, 2011-11-01 at 08:03 +0100, Christian Schmitt wrote:
> > Jason Cox wrote:
> >
> > > I would try a larger area, say 1x1 deg or larger and then and then you
> > > will see the list grow to include tiles that are no longer needed.
> > >
> >
> > I created a 2x3 degree area. No problems. What terragear-cs version do
> you
> > use and against which simgear do you compile it?
> >
> > Will now test even further and create another area.
> >
> > Chris
> >
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Terragear now sans plib

2011-11-02 Thread Martin Spott
Christian Schmitt wrote:

> Not only can I hgtchop, but also build scenery chunks again. So from my 
> point of view the problems are solved. Are there any objections against 
> pushing the changes to master?

Yes, "raw2ascii" doesn't work with both "simgear" and "terragear-cs"
HEAD and therefore "demchop" is still untested.  I'll provide a test
case as soon as time permits - spare time is a bit tight these days.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Terragear now sans plib

2011-11-02 Thread Christian Schmitt
James Turner wrote:

> I've pushed a fix to Simgear, updated the tests, and now I can run hgtchop
> happily with latest simgear and terragear.

Not only can I hgtchop, but also build scenery chunks again. So from my 
point of view the problems are solved. Are there any objections against 
pushing the changes to master? So this gets some more testing and more 
people can make use of the improvements.

Chris

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