[Flightgear-devel] Wiki Error
Not sure who the admin is for the wiki, so I thought I'm mail this list. This page http://wiki.flightgear.org/index.php/Air_bagan Shows this error Database error A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was: (SQL query hidden) from within function Parser::replaceLinkHolders. MySQL returned error 1271: Illegal mix of collations for operation ' IN ' (localhost). regards Pete ac001 -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Solid MP Models
Just a thought. The glide slope tunnel appears on 28R. So I set my startup to be 28L. pete George Patterson wrote: On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 6:21 AM, Heiko Schulz aeitsch...@yahoo.de wrote: Hmmm... For a short time this might be helping but I have disabled the MP Aircrafts collisions with the rest of the world. ... but we also have a lot of AI aircrafts around and they don't announce there incoming. That makes it very realistic and a lot of fun, then now you really have to watch out and look for other aircrafts! Like in real world! I vote also for possibility to tun on/ off AI/ MP collision- that would be a very neat feature! Regards HHS Seconded! The problem is though you might be wanting to avoid other aircraft. Some immature people (kids??) take a perverse pleasure in flying through other peoples planes. It's another reason why I rather fly near KSFO. I'm not sure if aircraft to aircraft collision detection is good idea on open servers when there are no consequence to the perpetrator. George -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Solid MP Models
AC001 wrote: Just a thought. The glide slope tunnel appears on 28R. So I set my startup to be 28L. pete Oops forgot the link to this wiki page. http://wiki.flightgear.org/index.php/San_Francisco_International_Airport George Patterson wrote: On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 6:21 AM, Heiko Schulz aeitsch...@yahoo.de wrote: Hmmm... For a short time this might be helping but I have disabled the MP Aircrafts collisions with the rest of the world. ... but we also have a lot of AI aircrafts around and they don't announce there incoming. That makes it very realistic and a lot of fun, then now you really have to watch out and look for other aircrafts! Like in real world! I vote also for possibility to tun on/ off AI/ MP collision- that would be a very neat feature! Regards HHS Seconded! The problem is though you might be wanting to avoid other aircraft. Some immature people (kids??) take a perverse pleasure in flying through other peoples planes. It's another reason why I rather fly near KSFO. I'm not sure if aircraft to aircraft collision detection is good idea on open servers when there are no consequence to the perpetrator. George -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] property tree
I'm a new kid on the block but I want to raise and issue. *The Property Tree Documentation* Its taken a while to kinda figure out and research/mind shift as to where its all as there in conflicting information from /src mini-docs with regard to purpose and my intermittent time of research. Where it has led me is to the wiki and even there its kind of a lash/hash/mish/mash up. I'm a web developer by nature and not a compiler. I'd like to feedback and correct/make/edit wiki documentation and make it THE source of reference so It's easy to find; as another newbie like me is trying to find node etc it would be clear which path to follow to interface with FG internally or externally on sockets telnet etc. Now I've taken an initiative (ducks) and created the namespace of PropertyTree: as follows, but need advice before do it proper. PropertyTree: http://wiki.flightgear.org/index.php/PropertyTree What we want Out of that Tree has differenct objetives, eg internal, external, motion sim, cabin light switch and fader level et all Current wiki pages are. http://wiki.flightgear.org/index.php/Property_Tree_Intro http://wiki.flightgear.org/index.php/Property_Tree http://wiki.flightgear.org/index.php/Property_Tree_Servers ( I edited this hence --props above) from http://www.mail-archive.com/flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net/msg21190.html http://wiki.flightgear.org/index.php/Property_Tree_Reorganization http://wiki.flightgear.org/index.php/Recommended_Property_Tree_Enhancements http://wiki.flightgear.org/index.php/Howto:Working_with_the_Property_Tree_API http://wiki.flightgear.org/index.php/Property_browser http://wiki.flightgear.org/index.php/Special:Search?search=propertygo=Go http://wiki.flightgear.org/index.php/Special:Search?search=treego=Go The only reliable one maybe is http://cvs.flightgear.org/viewvc/source/docs-mini/README.properties?view=markup ==Reference== Need to have the generic always there tree Reference ie constants of somewhat eg position, flaps, and a clear definition and the nodes of whats changeable and sim stuff.. reference here. Most Basic make users aware of how to browse properties and where the target areas are? I believe this is the way to go, its pretty clear in my mind as a newbie. Just need to consolidate it and make it cool and clear, no matter what level. First Major Desicion === --props= /dev/null http://www.mail-archive.com/flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net/msg09152.html So two years later can on irc [23:59] vivian #vivian --props is a method of setting properties remotely Heard that --props is abandoned (is that for real) can someone confirm? [23:58] ac001 #ac001 so what is the difference between a --telnet and --props [23:59] Jester #Jester nothing so Can that be nuked from references http://wiki.flightgear.org/index.php/Command_Line_Parameters#IO_Options See what happens.. regards Pete ac001 -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] telnet
Am I missing something? (a newbie) I'm executing this command with telnet dump / result nothing. expectation - the full property tree The problem is that different aircraft have different properties, so these will expose themselves with dump I assume. The underlying problem is that I want a *full* list of *all* the nodes in the the tree ie recusively so all the properties can be observered. Is there a way to do that ? regards Pete ac001 -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Reloading a protocol file
Hi all. Would it or could it be possible to reload a protocol file as the sim is running. The problem is that small changes to the protocol file eg simply changing the format means restarting the whole sim which unfortunately on my machine takes time. The only parts of interest would be the contents of the inputoutput's chunktags. At a minimum what would be helpful would be just to reload the format. Then changing the /node/ and even adding new chunks. If its not possible for technical reasons, pointers would be appreciated. regards Pete ac001 -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Source code control systems
Think this page on creating a super project and having submodules is a good read. http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/GitSubmoduleTutorial ;-) Mathias Fröhlich wrote: Hi, I also believe that we should move away from CVS. svn would have the benefit that it is very easy to use if you know cvs. Distributes systems have their huge benefits. If that DVCS is git or hg is more or less a matter of taste IMO. The downside is that distributes systems are more complex to handle. I do not know how much people out there who do occasional development - especially for the aircraft models - are familiar with DVCS or want to understand what happens in a DVCS. The backup problem is more or less trivially solved with DVCS since you have a distributed backup across the developers. Git offers to clone from a svn server (git-svn). I know several people who use git-svn for their personal work on a bigger project. So that might deliver a good compromise between a master svn and the git usage pattern for personal development. What gets lost with this approach is that 'Curt, please pull from git:...' workflow we see on virtually every git hosted project. I am not sure if this fine grained access control we have today on the cvs server is still needed. I would argue that this had made more problems than goods in the past. But if we still need that, I am not sure if we can do that with git or hg. I know that this could be done with svn but even there it is more complicated than just adding group write rights on some subdirectories like it is with cvs. I know that there is a git port for windows. But does this already work well enough? I have never tested ... My vote would go to a DVCS. But I can well live with svn. Greetings Mathias -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Input protocol implementation problem
First am a newbie to FlightGear and am throughly enjoying the experience ;-) Am hacking in pyqt experimenting/researching with sockets (to eventually interface with Arudino) The FG-output to pyqt listening is working great, with no major issues. However I am having problems with the input side and would appreciate some direction. The issues are. 1) can I acknowledge/debug that fg is receiving the input from socket 2) unsure about the formatting of the inputchunk 3) unsure how to format the input variable in the correct way.. below are the various elements snipped in parts my command line is /home/flight-sim/flight-gear-9/source/src/Main/fgfs \ --fg-root=/home/flight-sim/flight-gear-9/data \ --httpd=9090 \ --aircraft=A380 \ --disable-real-weather-fetch --disable-clouds --timeofday=noon --fog-disable \ --generic=socket,out,10,127.0.0.1,6789,udp,mash \ --generic=socket,in,5,127.0.0.1,6788,udp,mash \ --trace-write=/sim/gui/dialogs/autopilot/speed-active and the mash.xml protocol file ?xml version=1.0? PropertyList generic input line_separatornewline/line_separator var_separatortab/var_separator chunk namespeed-active/name typebool/type node/sim/gui/dialogs/autopilot/speed-active/node /chunk /input output line_separatornewline/line_separator var_separatortab/var_separator chunk nameaileron/name typefloat/type formataileron=%03.2f/format node/controls/flight/aileron/node /chunk chunk nameelevator/name typefloat/type formatelevator=%03.2f/format node/surface-positions/elevator-pos-norm/node /chunk snipped-- the python code # eg speed-active=true\n is sent datagram = speed-active=%s\n % (val) print datagram self.udpSocket.writeDatagram(datagram, QtNetwork.QHostAddress(QtNetwork.QHostAddress.Broadcast), 6788) help would be greatly appreciated tia pedro ac001 -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Source code control systems
Am new to flightgear, but read this thread, and for a tuppence worth (ducks) have you looked at launchpad.net ? thats got scm, bus tracker, teams, etc, etc What is launchpad? https://launchpad.net/+tour/index and that uses Bazaar scm regards Pete Curtis Olson wrote: On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 4:10 AM, Tim Moore timo...@redhat.com mailto:timo...@redhat.com wrote: It is important to remember that, unlike a personal religious choice like emacs vs. vi, the outcome of this religious debate will affect many people's daily interaction with Flightgear. In this way I suppose the debate is more like a religious war :) To dismiss the debate as merely religious is to ignore real technical arguments. At the end of the day, of course, a choice must be made that will leave some people unhappy, but I hope we can arrive there by listening to all sides. I only said that in attempt to deflect comments ahead of time from anyone who would immediately take this up as a religious war and choose to push the discussion in that direction. I really appreciate those that have responded professionally. This really helps to advance this discussion in a positive direction. It would be a pity to move from CVS and end up with SVN, even temporarily. First, let's be clear that some other system means Git. Several of us already use git for working with Flightgear. If anyone is using another system to interact with Flightgear's CVS, I'm not aware of it. There are at least two Git mirrors of of Flightgear and Simgear, so the conversion work has already been done. As long as this discussion is branching off in several directions, is it worth discussing mercurial versus git? code.google.com http://code.google.com supports mercurial (hg). I have never used either. I've done a bit of googling, but much of the information I've found has been dated, or not written in a way that convinces me of the author's objectivity. The advantages of distributed version control systems over centeralized ones like SVN are numerous, and I won't hash them out here unless it becomes necessary :) code.google.com http://code.google.com does support Mercurial (also known as Hg), and I would urge you to consider that as a target instead of SVN. That said, I have not used Hg; from what I have read, git's support for branching, merging, and preserving the history of merges is stronger. These features were very useful in creating the 1.9.1 maintenance release, where new development was able to continue on a mainline branch and specific fixes could be pulled into the maint branch, or made on the maint branch and merged to the mainline. For me, lack of Git support would be a deal breaker for code.google.com http://code.google.com. From what I've read, hg and git seem to be converging in similar directions and each tool seems to be adding features to address their own weaknesses in comparison with the other. Just as I'm writing this I am remembering an old grad school class project I did with two other guys. We created a system based on CVS which would automatically replicate a CVS repository across all participating systems. This was back when we were all on dialup, and you usually dialed into a bulletin board system, not an ISP. (Am I dating myself?) :-) So we set up uucp bewteen our home machines and all the communication was done through emails that were automatically intercepted and parsed on the receiving end. The uucp subsystem took care of automatically dialing up the other computers if there was something in the mail queue to be sent. There was a token for each file and you had to have the token in order to do a commit. If you didn't have the token, a token request was broadcast (over email/uucp) and eventually it would be sent back to you and you could finalize the commit. Believe it or not, this system actually worked and worked rather well to maintain synchronization between distributed repository copies across a non-internet connected collection of machines ... back in the days before DSL and cable when it was actually difficult to get connected up to the internet. I haven't checked it out yet, but I did browse it. I did notice that you imported the expanded CVS $Id$ strings into SVN, which is going to get very messy. At the least you should do the CVS checkout with -kk. I didn't do a cvs checkout, but just ran cvs2svn ... I wonder if it has an option for this? Nothing is jumping out at me yet ... Regards, Curt. -- Curtis Olson: http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/ http://baron.flightgear.org/%7Ecurt/
