Re: [Flightgear-devel] Bleriot -> Sopwith Camel?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 It is still broken in plib, the "windscreen" is not transparent like in osg. Regards, A. Norlander Vivian Meazza wrote: > Durk > >> Sent: 13 December 2007 22:34 >> To: FlightGear developers discussions >> Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Bleriot -> Sopwith Camel? >> >> >> On Thursday 13 December 2007 23:13, Vivian Meazza wrote: >>> If Durk can give us a little time? >>> >> Sure, no problem. >> > > OK - I've fixed the main issue - the control stick - in cvs. Now for the > minor ones. > > V. > > > > > - > SF.Net email is sponsored by: > Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. > It's the best place to buy or sell services > for just about anything Open Source. > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace > ___ > Flightgear-devel mailing list > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHY6dSWmK6ng/aMNkRCi41AJ9Ia8Aia+TNRiGGgIJko7kfSG/kawCdFOTS w7RK4XHd0CfbBxOY7QpUdXI= =fU0K -END PGP SIGNATURE- - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Bleriot -> Sopwith Camel?
Durk > Sent: 13 December 2007 22:34 > To: FlightGear developers discussions > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Bleriot -> Sopwith Camel? > > > On Thursday 13 December 2007 23:13, Vivian Meazza wrote: > > > > If Durk can give us a little time? > > > > Sure, no problem. > OK - I've fixed the main issue - the control stick - in cvs. Now for the minor ones. V. - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Bleriot -> Sopwith Camel?
On Thursday 13 December 2007 23:13, Vivian Meazza wrote: > > If Durk can give us a little time? > Sure, no problem. D. - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Bleriot -> Sopwith Camel?
AJ MacLeod wrote: > Sent: 13 December 2007 20:19 > To: FlightGear developers discussions > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Bleriot -> Sopwith Camel? > > > On Thursday 13 December 2007 19:52:18 Durk Talsma wrote: > > In light of some recently uncovered problems related to the > bleriot, > > how about making a last minute decision to replace it with > the sopwith > > camel? I just checked the aircraft, and can confirm that it doesn't > > segfault by switching on aircraft shadows. > > Hi Durk, > > I'd be very happy to see the Camel getting some exposure, but > my only worry is > that it was developed for OSG... it doesn't use any > particularly special > OSG-only effects, but last time I looked some of the control > animations were > broken in PLIB. > > They work perfectly in OSG, and of course we could probably > rewrite them for > plib, but I don't think I'll have time in the next day or two > :-( Unless > Vivian can? > Needs a bit of work to make the animations right. Hmm - don't know what's required right now - but I could perhaps do it tomorrow sometime. Lot's and lots of vertices, and no easier to fly than the original! If Durk can give us a little time? Vivian - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Bleriot -> Sopwith Camel?
Hi AJ, On Thursday 13 December 2007 21:19, AJ MacLeod wrote: > > I'd be very happy to see the Camel getting some exposure, but my only worry > is that it was developed for OSG... it doesn't use any particularly special > OSG-only effects, but last time I looked some of the control animations > were broken in PLIB. > > They work perfectly in OSG, and of course we could probably rewrite them > for plib, but I don't think I'll have time in the next day or two :-( > Unless Vivian can? > In general, the model looks great, despite a few animations that don't seem to work entirely correctly. I'm sure that not many first time users will notice that, because this bird is hard to fly. :-) I'm currently waiting for a few more clean-ups in the new scenery, so I don't think the base package will be ready before bedtime today. So that gives a little more breathing space. I would propose one of four possible options: 1) Use the Sopwith Camel as is 2) If possible, use the Camel with a few modified animations 3) Stick with the bleriot, but hack a /sim/rendering/aircraft-shadows property into the aircraft config file, which disables aircraft shadows (still risky, and not very elegant) 4) Choose an entirely different historic aircraft from the 1910-1920s era. I have a slight preference for either option 1 or 2, but ultimately, I go with your (and your co-authors) recommendation. As far as I can tell, choosing the appropriate historical aircraft is the last remaining issue that needs to be resolved. I think we're really close to releasing now. If I have the opportunity and we have consensus, I'll roll up the tar files tomorrow morning, if not, it's going to be on saturday at the latest. Cheers, Durk - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Bleriot -> Sopwith Camel?
On jeu 13 décembre 2007, AJ MacLeod wrote: > On Thursday 13 December 2007 19:52:18 Durk Talsma wrote: > > In light of some recently uncovered problems related to the bleriot, how > > about making a last minute decision to replace it with the sopwith camel? > > I just checked the aircraft, and can confirm that it doesn't segfault by > > switching on aircraft shadows. > > Hi Durk, > > I'd be very happy to see the Camel getting some exposure, but my only worry > is that it was developed for OSG... it doesn't use any particularly special > OSG-only effects, but last time I looked some of the control animations > were broken in PLIB. > > They work perfectly in OSG, and of course we could probably rewrite them > for plib, but I don't think I'll have time in the next day or two :-( > Unless Vivian can? > > Cheers, > > AJ Hello AJ, To me, without the OSG, it remains a nice model, it suit very well with plib. In order to be easier to start with command line "--aircraft= "the sopwithCamel-set.xml could be linked to the YASim FDM and not to the LARCSim. (heavy to write --aircraft=sopwithCamel-YASim ) Regards -- Gérard http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/ << Less i work, better i go >> - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Bleriot -> Sopwith Camel?
On Thursday 13 December 2007 19:52:18 Durk Talsma wrote: > In light of some recently uncovered problems related to the bleriot, how > about making a last minute decision to replace it with the sopwith camel? > I just checked the aircraft, and can confirm that it doesn't segfault by > switching on aircraft shadows. Hi Durk, I'd be very happy to see the Camel getting some exposure, but my only worry is that it was developed for OSG... it doesn't use any particularly special OSG-only effects, but last time I looked some of the control animations were broken in PLIB. They work perfectly in OSG, and of course we could probably rewrite them for plib, but I don't think I'll have time in the next day or two :-( Unless Vivian can? Cheers, AJ - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Bleriot -> Sopwith Camel?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Sounds good. Durk Talsma wrote: > Gentlemen, > > In light of some recently uncovered problems related to the bleriot, how > about > making a last minute decision to replace it with the sopwith camel? The > bleriot seemed to be a nice touch, as it was the oldest aircraft next to the > WrightFlyer. The sopwith, while being slightly newer and a few MBs larger > than the bleriot, seems to be a lot more mature. > > I just checked the aircraft, and can confirm that it doesn't segfault by > switching on aircraft shadows. > > Cheers, > Durk > > - > SF.Net email is sponsored by: > Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. > It's the best place to buy or sell services > for just about anything Open Source. > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace > ___ > Flightgear-devel mailing list > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHYZESWmK6ng/aMNkRCk+EAKDC/VPcwyFvsekGyJUJDdoycuRvsQCgnj3G kxcTHQXc1zluZstLOHLtoGc= =yUhD -END PGP SIGNATURE- - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Bleriot -> Sopwith Camel?
Gentlemen, In light of some recently uncovered problems related to the bleriot, how about making a last minute decision to replace it with the sopwith camel? The bleriot seemed to be a nice touch, as it was the oldest aircraft next to the WrightFlyer. The sopwith, while being slightly newer and a few MBs larger than the bleriot, seems to be a lot more mature. I just checked the aircraft, and can confirm that it doesn't segfault by switching on aircraft shadows. Cheers, Durk - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
