Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear logo; Was: t-shirt give away
Curt: "I think we also need a good slogan or motto ... I kind of like: 'FlightGear: Educate, Entertain, Inspire.'" Gijs: "On the FSweekend posters, we had printed out: 'Naturally flying is free'. I like it ;)" Curt: "I think this might be a phrase that doesn't quite sounds as smooth in English as it probably does in the original Dutch. It could be my warped mind, but when I see the words "naturally flying" (which could be rewritten "flying naturally" and would mean the same thing) for some reason I think of flying while dressed as nature intended. :-) But that's not a picture I really want to communicate in our slogan." Torsten: "Hehe, THAT was not intended! What a nice, but delicate pitfall ;-) We better keep this banner away from native english speakers!" Stuart: "So it's not just me ;) I like the slogan we have on one of the default splashscreens (the j3cub): 'FlightGear: Fly Free'." Torsten -- take heart. Usually I'm able to find deviant meanings in just about everything (hehe), but I didn't jump to the same image that Curt and Stuart did. It did come off slightly awkwardly to me but I liked the (presumably intentional) double-entendre of the freedom of the software with the freedom of flight that nature's creatures enjoy. Punctuation ("Naturally, flying is free") would've helped, but that's a subtlety in translation that I wouldn't expect even a long-time non-native speaker to pick up on. I have to agree with Stuart on the other half of his message though -- "FlightGear: Fly Free" is a direct, straightforward, punchy, easy-to-remember catch-phrase, and it would definitely have my backing as an "official slogan" if we intended to adopt one. Curt's proposal (at the very top of this message) is an awfully close second in my opinion. Cheers, -R. Robert M. Shearman, Jr. Transit Operations Supervisor, University of Maryland Department of Transportation also known as rm...@umd.edu -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear logo; Was: t-shirt give away
On Sun, 2009-11-15 at 07:35 -0600, Gene Lege wrote: > I like: Freedom in Flight Hmm... "FlightGear: 7 Degrees of Freedom" -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear logo; Was: t-shirt give away
On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 2:01 AM, Stuart Buchanan < stuart_d_bucha...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > Curtis Olson wrote: > >On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 1:34 AM, Gijs de Rooy wrote: > >>> Curt Olson wrote: > >>> I think we also need a good slogan or motto ... I kind of like: > >>> > >>> FlightGear: Educate, Entertain, Inspire. > >> > >>On the FSweekend posters, we had printed out: "Naturally flying is free". > I like it ;) > >> > > > > > I like the slogan we have on one of the default splashscreens (the j3cub) > > FlightGear: Fly Free > > It has always summed up to me the freedom of the FG project. > > On a related note, perhaps we should have a competition for some new > splashscreen art? > > I like: Freedom in Flight gl -- It's just an inch from me to you, Depending on what map you use - Jewel -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear logo; Was: t-shirt give away
Hi, On Friday 13 November 2009 09:57:34 pm Torsten Dreyer wrote: > > Torsten > > BTW: The original mistake occurred at the translation from german language. > Hope that's enough of a hint to know, who was that dork... > HAHAHA, in retrospect, I did have a gut feeling that the slogan wasn't entirely correct from a grammatical point of view, but that was already after I had given the go-ahead for printing. Funnily enough, I had never thought of the implied connotation that Curt came up with. Fortunately enough, the image of a seagull that accompanied the slogan should be enough reference, and given the fact that the Dutch and German languages are pretty similar in this respect, I don't think we've embarrassed ourselves too much. :-) Cheers, Durk -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear logo; Was: t-shirt give away
Curtis Olson wrote: >On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 1:34 AM, Gijs de Rooy wrote: >>> Curt Olson wrote: >>> I think we also need a good slogan or motto ... I kind of like: >>> >>> FlightGear: Educate, Entertain, Inspire. >> >>On the FSweekend posters, we had printed out: "Naturally flying is free". I >>like it ;) >> > >I think this might be a phrase that doesn't quite sounds as smooth in English >as it > probably does in the original Dutch. It could be my warped mind, but when I > see > the words "naturally flying" (which could be rewritten "flying naturally" and > would > mean the same thing) for some reason I think of flying while dressed as > nature > intended. :-) But that's not a picture I really want to communicate in our > slogan. So it's not just me ;) I like the slogan we have on one of the default splashscreens (the j3cub) FlightGear: Fly Free It has always summed up to me the freedom of the FG project. On a related note, perhaps we should have a competition for some new splashscreen art? -Stuart -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear logo; Was: t-shirt give away
> > On the FSweekend posters, we had printed out: "Naturally flying is free". > > I like it ;) > > I think this might be a phrase that doesn't quite sounds as smooth in > English as it probably does in the original Dutch. It could be my warped > mind, but when I see the words "naturally flying" (which could be rewritten > "flying naturally" and would mean the same thing) for some reason I think > of flying while dressed as nature intended. :-) But that's not a picture I > really want to communicate in our slogan. Hehe, THAT was not intended! What a nice, but delicate pitfall ;-) We better keep this banner away from native english speakers! Torsten BTW: The original mistake occurred at the translation from german language. Hope that's enough of a hint to know, who was that dork... -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear logo; Was: t-shirt give away
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 1:34 AM, Gijs de Rooy wrote: > > Curt Olson wrote: > > I think we also need a good slogan or motto ... I kind of like: > > > > FlightGear: Educate, Entertain, Inspire. > > On the FSweekend posters, we had printed out: "Naturally flying is free". I > like it ;) > I think this might be a phrase that doesn't quite sounds as smooth in English as it probably does in the original Dutch. It could be my warped mind, but when I see the words "naturally flying" (which could be rewritten "flying naturally" and would mean the same thing) for some reason I think of flying while dressed as nature intended. :-) But that's not a picture I really want to communicate in our slogan. > Oh, and take a look in the FG logo topic, where we had some nice ideas > (altough > none of them might be usefull straight away it gives a nice impression > of what our > users like) http://www.flightgear.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2633 > Yes, lots of good thoughts and ideas there. Curt. -- Curtis Olson: http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/ -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear logo; Was: t-shirt give away
> Curt Olson wrote: > I think we also need a good slogan or motto ... I kind of like: > > FlightGear: Educate, Entertain, Inspire. On the FSweekend posters, we had printed out: "Naturally flying is free". I like it ;) Oh, and take a look in the FG logo topic, where we had some nice ideas (altough none of them might be usefull straight away it gives a nice impression of what our users like) http://www.flightgear.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2633 Cheers, Gijs _ Alles over Windows http://www.windows.nl/About.aspx-- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear logo; Was: t-shirt give away
Curtis Olson wrote: > I think this design looks really great on a t-shirt or a mug, but I'm not > sure how well it works as a web page header or an icon. Perhaps something > could be adapted from the full logo to work in other contexts. I don't think that having different logos for different use cases is going to turn out into being great pleasure in the long run, yet I do understand your concerns. I'd say, let's try it out and see how it looks like. A website logo does not necessarily have to be of the banner-style like the current one does. On the other hand, turning it into a banner could easily be achieved in the PostgreSQL way :-) Cheers, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear logo; Was: t-shirt give away
I think this design looks really great on a t-shirt or a mug, but I'm not sure how well it works as a web page header or an icon. Perhaps something could be adapted from the full logo to work in other contexts. I think we also need a good slogan or motto ... I kind of like: FlightGear: Educate, Entertain, Inspire. Curt. On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Martin Spott wrote: > Curtis Olson wrote: > > > Torsten's wife designed the t-shirt graphics (with some valuable input > from > > Torsten and I.) You can see the design here: > > > > http://www.cafepress.com/fgfs > > Wouldn't this be a great chance to declare this design as being the new > 'official' FlightGear logo ? > >Martin. > > -- > Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! > -- > > > -- > Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day > trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus > on > what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with > Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july > ___ > Flightgear-devel mailing list > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel > -- Curtis Olson: http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/ -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] FlightGear logo; Was: t-shirt give away
Curtis Olson wrote: > Torsten's wife designed the t-shirt graphics (with some valuable input from > Torsten and I.) You can see the design here: > > http://www.cafepress.com/fgfs Wouldn't this be a great chance to declare this design as being the new 'official' FlightGear logo ? Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel