Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear logo; Was: t-shirt give away

2009-11-15 Thread Rob Shearman, Jr.
Curt: "I think we also need a good slogan or motto ... I kind of like: 
'FlightGear: Educate, Entertain, Inspire.'"


Gijs: "On the FSweekend posters, we had printed out: 'Naturally flying is 
free'. I like it ;)"
 
Curt: "I think this might be a phrase that doesn't quite sounds as smooth in 
English as it  probably does in the original Dutch.  It could be my warped 
mind, but when I see the words "naturally flying" (which could be rewritten 
"flying naturally" and would  mean the same thing) for some reason I think of 
flying while dressed as nature  intended. :-)  But that's not a picture I 
really want to communicate in our slogan."

Torsten: "Hehe, THAT was not intended!  What a nice, but delicate pitfall ;-) 
We better keep this banner away from native english speakers!"

Stuart: "So it's not just me ;)  I like the slogan we have on one of the 
default splashscreens (the j3cub):  'FlightGear: Fly Free'."

Torsten -- take heart.  Usually I'm able to find deviant meanings in just about 
everything (hehe), but I didn't jump to the same image that Curt and Stuart 
did.  It did come off slightly awkwardly to me but I liked the (presumably 
intentional) double-entendre of the freedom of the software with the freedom of 
flight that nature's creatures enjoy.  Punctuation ("Naturally, flying is 
free") would've helped, but that's a subtlety in translation that I wouldn't 
expect even a long-time non-native speaker to pick up on.

I have to agree with Stuart on the other half of his message though -- 
"FlightGear: Fly Free" is a direct, straightforward, punchy, easy-to-remember 
catch-phrase, and it would definitely have my backing as an "official slogan" 
if we intended to adopt one.  Curt's proposal (at the very top of this message) 
is an awfully close second in my opinion.

Cheers,
-R.

Robert M. Shearman, Jr.
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University of Maryland Department of Transportation
also known as rm...@umd.edu


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear logo; Was: t-shirt give away

2009-11-15 Thread Ron Jensen
On Sun, 2009-11-15 at 07:35 -0600, Gene Lege wrote:
> I like:  Freedom in Flight

Hmm...  "FlightGear: 7 Degrees of Freedom"




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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear logo; Was: t-shirt give away

2009-11-15 Thread Gene Lege
On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 2:01 AM, Stuart Buchanan <
stuart_d_bucha...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>  Curtis Olson wrote:
> >On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 1:34 AM, Gijs de Rooy wrote:
> >>> Curt Olson wrote:
> >>> I think we also need a good slogan or motto ... I kind of like:
> >>>
> >>> FlightGear: Educate, Entertain, Inspire.
> >>
> >>On the FSweekend posters, we had printed out: "Naturally flying is free".
> I like it ;)
> >>
> >
>
>
> I like the slogan we have on one of the default splashscreens (the j3cub)
>
> FlightGear: Fly Free
>
> It has always summed up to me the freedom of the FG project.
>
> On a related note, perhaps we should have a competition for some new
> splashscreen art?
>
>
I like:  Freedom in Flight


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear logo; Was: t-shirt give away

2009-11-14 Thread Durk Talsma
Hi,

On Friday 13 November 2009 09:57:34 pm Torsten Dreyer wrote:
>
> Torsten
>
> BTW: The original mistake occurred at the translation from german language.
> Hope that's enough of a hint to know, who was that dork...
>

HAHAHA, in retrospect, I did have a gut feeling that the slogan wasn't 
entirely correct from a grammatical point of view, but that was already after 
I had given the go-ahead for printing. 

Funnily enough, I had never thought of the implied connotation that Curt came 
up with. Fortunately enough, the image of a seagull that accompanied the 
slogan should be enough reference, and given the fact that the Dutch and 
German languages are pretty similar in this respect, I don't think we've 
embarrassed ourselves too much. :-)

Cheers,
Durk

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear logo; Was: t-shirt give away

2009-11-14 Thread Stuart Buchanan
 Curtis Olson wrote:
>On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 1:34 AM, Gijs de Rooy wrote:
>>> Curt Olson wrote:
>>> I think we also need a good slogan or motto ... I kind of like:
>>> 
>>> FlightGear: Educate, Entertain, Inspire.
>>
>>On the FSweekend posters, we had printed out: "Naturally flying is free". I 
>>like it ;)
>>
>
>I think this might be a phrase that doesn't quite sounds as smooth in English 
>as it 
> probably does in the original Dutch.  It could be my warped mind, but when I 
> see 
> the words "naturally flying" (which could be rewritten "flying naturally" and 
> would 
> mean the same thing) for some reason I think of flying while dressed as 
> nature 
> intended. :-)  But that's not a picture I really want to communicate in our 
> slogan.

So it's not just me ;)

I like the slogan we have on one of the default splashscreens (the j3cub)

FlightGear: Fly Free

It has always summed up to me the freedom of the FG project.

On a related note, perhaps we should have a competition for some new 
splashscreen art?

-Stuart


  

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear logo; Was: t-shirt give away

2009-11-13 Thread Torsten Dreyer

> > On the FSweekend posters, we had printed out: "Naturally flying is free".
> > I like it ;)
>
> I think this might be a phrase that doesn't quite sounds as smooth in
> English as it probably does in the original Dutch.  It could be my warped
> mind, but when I see the words "naturally flying" (which could be rewritten
> "flying naturally" and would mean the same thing) for some reason I think
> of flying while dressed as nature intended. :-)  But that's not a picture I
> really want to communicate in our slogan.
Hehe, THAT was not intended!
What a nice, but delicate pitfall ;-) We better keep this banner away from 
native english speakers!

Torsten

BTW: The original mistake occurred at the translation from german language. 
Hope that's enough of a hint to know, who was that dork...

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear logo; Was: t-shirt give away

2009-11-13 Thread Curtis Olson
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 1:34 AM, Gijs de Rooy  wrote:

>  > Curt Olson wrote:
> > I think we also need a good slogan or motto ... I kind of like:
> >
> > FlightGear: Educate, Entertain, Inspire.
>
> On the FSweekend posters, we had printed out: "Naturally flying is free". I
> like it ;)
>

I think this might be a phrase that doesn't quite sounds as smooth in
English as it probably does in the original Dutch.  It could be my warped
mind, but when I see the words "naturally flying" (which could be rewritten
"flying naturally" and would mean the same thing) for some reason I think of
flying while dressed as nature intended. :-)  But that's not a picture I
really want to communicate in our slogan.


> Oh, and take a look in the FG logo topic, where we had some nice ideas
> (altough
> none of them might be usefull straight away it gives a nice impression
> of what our
> users like) http://www.flightgear.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2633
>

Yes, lots of good thoughts and ideas there.

Curt.
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear logo; Was: t-shirt give away

2009-11-12 Thread Gijs de Rooy

> Curt Olson wrote:
> I think we also need a good slogan or motto ... I kind of like:
> 
> FlightGear: Educate, Entertain, Inspire.

On the FSweekend posters, we had printed out: "Naturally flying is free". I 
like it ;)

Oh, and take a look in the FG logo topic, where we had some nice ideas (altough
none of them might be usefull straight away it gives a nice impression of what 
our 
users like) http://www.flightgear.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2633

Cheers,
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear logo; Was: t-shirt give away

2009-11-12 Thread Martin Spott
Curtis Olson wrote:

> I think this design looks really great on a t-shirt or a mug, but I'm not
> sure how well it works as a web page header or an icon.  Perhaps something
> could be adapted from the full logo to work in other contexts.

I don't think that having different logos for different use cases is
going to turn out into being great pleasure in the long run, yet I do
understand your concerns.

I'd say, let's try it out and see how it looks like. A website logo
does not necessarily have to be of the banner-style like the current
one does. On the other hand, turning it into a banner could easily be
achieved in the PostgreSQL way  :-)

Cheers,
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear logo; Was: t-shirt give away

2009-11-12 Thread Curtis Olson
I think this design looks really great on a t-shirt or a mug, but I'm not
sure how well it works as a web page header or an icon.  Perhaps something
could be adapted from the full logo to work in other contexts.

I think we also need a good slogan or motto ... I kind of like:

FlightGear: Educate, Entertain, Inspire.

Curt.


On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Martin Spott wrote:

> Curtis Olson wrote:
>
> > Torsten's wife designed the t-shirt graphics (with some valuable input
> from
> > Torsten and I.)  You can see the design here:
> >
> > http://www.cafepress.com/fgfs
>
> Wouldn't this be a great chance to declare this design as being the new
> 'official' FlightGear logo ?
>
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[Flightgear-devel] FlightGear logo; Was: t-shirt give away

2009-11-12 Thread Martin Spott
Curtis Olson wrote:

> Torsten's wife designed the t-shirt graphics (with some valuable input from
> Torsten and I.)  You can see the design here:
> 
> http://www.cafepress.com/fgfs

Wouldn't this be a great chance to declare this design as being the new
'official' FlightGear logo ?

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