Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag; Was: FlightGear Make Process: Amazing
On 13/03/06, Martin Spott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh, they have a nice portofolio of sim-related controls and > instruments, if only the price tag I wonder what a _real_ set of > Cessna pedaly would cost me if I build an appropriate frame on my own, That won't help you much -- the pedals themselves wouldn't give a realistic feel without a cable system to the rudder (which would have to have wind forces pushing it back to centre) and the bungee-sprung steerable nosewheel. If you're still interested, try Wentworth or one of the other aircraft wrecking yards. All the best, David -- http://www.megginson.com/ --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid0944&bid$1720&dat1642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag; Was: FlightGear Make Process: Amazing
Paul Surgeon wrote: > If you want decent rudder pedals then you may want to look at the Flight Link > Jet Rudder Control Module from > http://www.aviationsimulation.co.uk/acatalog/_Pedals.html Oh, they have a nice portofolio of sim-related controls and instruments, if only the price tag I wonder what a _real_ set of Cessna pedaly would cost me if I build an appropriate frame on my own, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag; Was: FlightGear Make Process: Amazing
On Friday 03 March 2006 22:53, David Megginson wrote: > On 03/03/06, Matthias Boerner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Next one: I know how it feels to fly a real aircraft but I've never > > > used a yoke or pedals with FlightGear. Sometimes I've use other > > > people's equipment with M$FS but I wasn't satisfied. The pedals I found > > > there had a spring that centers the pedal position much too hard - but > > > in a real aircraft (Cessna, Piper) you don't need strong initial forces > > > to move the pedals out of the center position. Now: Does anyone have a > > > recommendation for pedals and a yoke that he knows resemble the > > > controls of a real aircraft ? > > > > if we aren't able to get any hardware for flying we can use my pedals and > > my joystick (Simped-F16/USB and ThrustMaster Hotas Cougar/USB). > > I had the CH USB yoke and pedals, but ended up donating both to our > local charity store about a year ago. They took up a lot of room, > were a pain to set up, and didn't make the aircraft any easier to > control. > > > All the best, > > David If you want decent rudder pedals then you may want to look at the Flight Link Jet Rudder Control Module from http://www.aviationsimulation.co.uk/acatalog/_Pedals.html It costs over €2000 but they're made to Boeing specs and evidently work really well. They can also be mechanically linked which is useful for cockpit builders. Paul --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid0944&bid$1720&dat1642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag; Was: FlightGear Make Process: Amazing
On Friday 03 March 2006 17:28, Curtis L. Olson wrote: > Let me just say that hanging out in a booth is a *lot* of fun. You get > to spend the entire day talking about FlightGear and flight simulation > and aviation ... what could be better? Well, looking forward to that! Greetings Mathias -- Mathias Fröhlich, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid0944&bid$1720&dat1642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag; Was: FlightGear Make Process: Amazing
On Friday 03 March 2006 08:40, Martin Spott wrote: > Martin Spott wrote: > > It's pretty likely that we're going to have a booth at the Linux-Tag > > exhibition in Wiesbaden on May 3 - 6, 2006. In order to present the > > local area to the visitors it would be nice to have an online-map > > showing Wiesbaden and its entourage. > > Yesterday evening I was confirmed that we _will_ get a free booth on > the LinuxTag show (3rd to 6th May). Now several things come into my > mind that would help us to make our presence on the show a success and > that we probably won't find the time to do everything ourselves. So > here's my "feature request" - others might follow :-) > Unfortunately, I will be staying in Kingston, Ont, Canada from mid April until mid June. Otherwise I would probably have joined in. LinuxTag 2001 was so great, I'd loved to go back again sometime. Cheers, Durk --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag; Was: FlightGear Make Process: Amazing
On 03/03/06, Matthias Boerner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Next one: I know how it feels to fly a real aircraft but I've never > > used a yoke or pedals with FlightGear. Sometimes I've use other > > people's equipment with M$FS but I wasn't satisfied. The pedals I found > > there had a spring that centers the pedal position much too hard - but > > in a real aircraft (Cessna, Piper) you don't need strong initial forces > > to move the pedals out of the center position. Now: Does anyone have a > > recommendation for pedals and a yoke that he knows resemble the > > controls of a real aircraft ? > > if we aren't able to get any hardware for flying we can use my pedals and my > joystick (Simped-F16/USB and ThrustMaster Hotas Cougar/USB). I had the CH USB yoke and pedals, but ended up donating both to our local charity store about a year ago. They took up a lot of room, were a pain to set up, and didn't make the aircraft any easier to control. All the best, David -- http://www.megginson.com/ --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid0944&bid$1720&dat1642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag; Was: FlightGear Make Process: Amazing
Hi Martin, -->snip > Next one: I know how it feels to fly a real aircraft but I've never > used a yoke or pedals with FlightGear. Sometimes I've use other > people's equipment with M$FS but I wasn't satisfied. The pedals I found > there had a spring that centers the pedal position much too hard - but > in a real aircraft (Cessna, Piper) you don't need strong initial forces > to move the pedals out of the center position. Now: Does anyone have a > recommendation for pedals and a yoke that he knows resemble the > controls of a real aircraft ? if we aren't able to get any hardware for flying we can use my pedals and my joystick (Simped-F16/USB and ThrustMaster Hotas Cougar/USB). Greetings Matthias --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag; Was: FlightGear Make Process: Amazing
Martin Spott wrote: Yesterday evening I was confirmed that we _will_ get a free booth on the LinuxTag show (3rd to 6th May). Now several things come into my mind that would help us to make our presence on the show a success and that we probably won't find the time to do everything ourselves. So here's my "feature request" - others might follow :-) The LinuxTag-show will take place at the Rhein-Main-Hallen in Wiesbaden http://www.linuxtag.org/2006/en/home/aktuelles.html http://www.rhein-main-hallen.de/ Martin, I've added a very short entry in our events section on the FG web site. Feel free to expand on that a little bit if you like and send me the results. Or if you are happy with the current text we can just leave it alone. There's another request: Is anybody on this list who has experience in createin live-CD's like Knoppix ? It would be nice to have a FlightGear live-CD to give away - or at least to have a CD image on out FTP mirrors that we can point at. Next one: I know how it feels to fly a real aircraft but I've never used a yoke or pedals with FlightGear. Sometimes I've use other people's equipment with M$FS but I wasn't satisfied. The pedals I found there had a spring that centers the pedal position much too hard - but in a real aircraft (Cessna, Piper) you don't need strong initial forces to move the pedals out of the center position. Now: Does anyone have a recommendation for pedals and a yoke that he knows resemble the controls of a real aircraft ? I don't know of anything inexpensive except for the CH products yoke and pedals. I can say that it's possible to get the correct feel of the pedals and yoke (within FAA Level 3 FTD standards) using only springs. It's just a matter of adjusting the spring tension until you get within tolerence. http://www.atcflightsim makes some hardware with a really nice feel especially for light single engine planes, but I imagine the cost is a little out of the range of an typical individual since they sell whole simulator systems, not just pieces. PFC also makes more realistic hardware, but as far as I know there is no FG interface. At one time (several years ago) I offered to build one for them, but they didn't care to talk to me and weren't interested in FG. Now I've lost personal interest in supporting PFC hardware, but it's fine if someone else wants to build the interface. And the last one for today: Is anyobody on this list whom we didn't already contact, who would like to support us in running the booth and who at least is able to speak som German words ? The more people we have at the booth the easier the 'job' will get. Let me just say that hanging out in a booth is a *lot* of fun. You get to spend the entire day talking about FlightGear and flight simulation and aviation ... what could be better? Regards, Curt. -- Curtis Olsonhttp://www.flightgear.org/~curt HumanFIRST Program http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/ FlightGear Project http://www.flightgear.org Unique text:2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag; Was: FlightGear Make Process: Amazing
Martin Spott wrote: > Yesterday evening I was confirmed that we _will_ get a free booth on > the LinuxTag show (3rd to 6th May). Now several things come into my > mind that would help us to make our presence on the show a success and > that we probably won't find the time to do everything ourselves. So > here's my "feature request" - others might follow :-) Another one: It would be terrific if we'd experience a crash-free (in the sense of a software crash :-) FlightGear simulator during the show. Maybe would be a good idea to couple this event with an official Flightgear release as the goals are very similar: The software should run stable, there should be a deadline that can't be pushed back arbitrarily and there should be some public attention Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag; Was: FlightGear Make Process: Amazing
Martin Spott wrote: > It's pretty likely that we're going to have a booth at the Linux-Tag > exhibition in Wiesbaden on May 3 - 6, 2006. In order to present the > local area to the visitors it would be nice to have an online-map > showing Wiesbaden and its entourage. Yesterday evening I was confirmed that we _will_ get a free booth on the LinuxTag show (3rd to 6th May). Now several things come into my mind that would help us to make our presence on the show a success and that we probably won't find the time to do everything ourselves. So here's my "feature request" - others might follow :-) The LinuxTag-show will take place at the Rhein-Main-Hallen in Wiesbaden http://www.linuxtag.org/2006/en/home/aktuelles.html http://www.rhein-main-hallen.de/ We already triggered Ralf and Ingrid to try to prepare detailed scenery for the show so that the guests of our booth could fly around over the local entourage. Now as I realize that much progress has been made regarding the Scenery Objects Database and that there are lots of skilled designers out there I'd like to ask kindly if those who have fun to create new scenery models would consider creating some buildings that reside in the environment of Wiesbaden. There definitely _are_ lots of significant buildings there so having a few of then to show on the show would be terribly nice. Please post your intentions on this list in order to avoid duplicate effort on certain buildings. There's another request: Is anybody on this list who has experience in createin live-CD's like Knoppix ? It would be nice to have a FlightGear live-CD to give away - or at least to have a CD image on out FTP mirrors that we can point at. Next one: I know how it feels to fly a real aircraft but I've never used a yoke or pedals with FlightGear. Sometimes I've use other people's equipment with M$FS but I wasn't satisfied. The pedals I found there had a spring that centers the pedal position much too hard - but in a real aircraft (Cessna, Piper) you don't need strong initial forces to move the pedals out of the center position. Now: Does anyone have a recommendation for pedals and a yoke that he knows resemble the controls of a real aircraft ? And the last one for today: Is anyobody on this list whom we didn't already contact, who would like to support us in running the booth and who at least is able to speak som German words ? The more people we have at the booth the easier the 'job' will get. Thanks, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
