Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT; Was: _Sport Model_
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Martin Spott wrote: > The (my) GIT mirror doesn't intend to replace Curt's CVS service, at > least not in the near future. Nevertheless I have in mind to propose a > switchover to GIT once the Windows support has proven to be reliable in > all modes of operation. > BTW, in case of demand I'd consider enabling read-only CVS pservice as > an alternative frontend to this GIT repo. > > In the current state it's primarily meant as an option for those who > are not entirely happy with the current CVS service, those who can live > with a certain delay - source repositories are being synced every for > hours, the data repo every six hours - but who like the network > performance of this GIT service - in fact it's the best-networked > repository service FlightGear ever had :-) The current cvs server has 100Mbit to the switch, and then Gig-e out to the rest of the world. So for 99.999% of the folks out there, the network bottleneck will be at their own end of the pipe. :-) Curt. -- Curtis Olson: http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/ - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT; Was: _Sport Model_
Frederic Bouvier wrote: > Migrating from CVS to SVN would already be a very good thing IMO > > -Fred > Sure enough. But if we take a migration into consideration, we sould probably go the GIT route. Although I'm not too experienced with git when it comes to committing things to it, from the git pull side, it looks pretty nice. I don't know however how it performs with binary data, which would be nice to know for flightgear-data. IMHO, the current solution as read-only is a good way to test it from one side and maybe later move more stuff to it. Cheers Chris - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT; Was: _Sport Model_
Heiko, Heiko Schulz wrote: > The current SVN and CVS-clients are more comfortable. So in the > moment I would like to see, that for releases and official things we > keep on CVS( or maybe SVN?) The (my) GIT mirror doesn't intend to replace Curt's CVS service, at least not in the near future. Nevertheless I have in mind to propose a switchover to GIT once the Windows support has proven to be reliable in all modes of operation. BTW, in case of demand I'd consider enabling read-only CVS pservice as an alternative frontend to this GIT repo. In the current state it's primarily meant as an option for those who are not entirely happy with the current CVS service, those who can live with a certain delay - source repositories are being synced every for hours, the data repo every six hours - but who like the network performance of this GIT service - in fact it's the best-networked repository service FlightGear ever had :-) Best Regards, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT; Was: _Sport Model_
Migrating from CVS to SVN would already be a very good thing IMO -Fred - "Heiko Schulz" a écrit : > Hi, > > Could be that this message comes twice due to an error I had from my > mailprovider... > > GIT: > I did test it some days ago, and it works, but it is not very > comfortable. Well, not for me without any background in programming > etc. > > The current SVN and CVS-clients are more comfortable. So in the moment > I would like to see, that for releases and official things we keep on > CVS( or maybe SVN?) > > Regards > HHS > > > --- Martin Spott schrieb am Mi, 20.8.2008: > > > Datum: Mittwoch, 20. August 2008, 21:51 > > Frederic ! > > > > Frederic Bouvier wrote: > > > > > how git is supported on systems that are not Linux ? > > > > Depends on whom you ask. I know that GIT support on Windows > > machines > > had been somewhat whacky for quite a while. Primarily GIT > > had been > > relying on some Unix filesystem features that had not been > > available on > > Windows - Mac OS X is not an issue because it basically is > > a Unix. I > > suspect James Turner is successfully using GIT on the Mac. > > > > I know about this GIT client implementation on Windows: > > > > http://code.google.com/p/msysgit/ > > > > but I don't have any opportunity to check wether > > it works. I'd > > welcome you to try it out and report back on this very > > list. > > > > Salut, > > Martin. > > -- > > Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about > > who its friends are ! -- Frédéric Bouvier http://my.fotolia.com/frfoto/ Photo gallery - album photo http://fgsd.sourceforge.net/ FlightGear Scenery Designer - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT; Was: _Sport Model_
Hi, Could be that this message comes twice due to an error I had from my mailprovider... GIT: I did test it some days ago, and it works, but it is not very comfortable. Well, not for me without any background in programming etc. The current SVN and CVS-clients are more comfortable. So in the moment I would like to see, that for releases and official things we keep on CVS( or maybe SVN?) Regards HHS --- Martin Spott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am Mi, 20.8.2008: > Von: Martin Spott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Betreff: Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT; Was: _Sport Model_ > An: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > Datum: Mittwoch, 20. August 2008, 21:51 > Frederic ! > > Frederic Bouvier wrote: > > > how git is supported on systems that are not Linux ? > > Depends on whom you ask. I know that GIT support on Windows > machines > had been somewhat whacky for quite a while. Primarily GIT > had been > relying on some Unix filesystem features that had not been > available on > Windows - Mac OS X is not an issue because it basically is > a Unix. I > suspect James Turner is successfully using GIT on the Mac. > > I know about this GIT client implementation on Windows: > > http://code.google.com/p/msysgit/ > > but I don't have any opportunity to check wether > it works. I'd > welcome you to try it out and report back on this very > list. > > Salut, > Martin. > -- > Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about > who its friends are ! > -- > > - > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move > Developer's challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK > & win great prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event > anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > ___ > Flightgear-devel mailing list > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel __ Do You Yahoo!? Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verfügt über einen herausragenden Schutz gegen Massenmails. http://mail.yahoo.com - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT; Was: _Sport Model_
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Frederic Bouvier wrote: > Hi Curt, Hi Martin, > > how git is supported on systems that are not Linux ? Download Virtual Box from sun (free) and run Linux in a virtual machine on your mac/windows host. That said, if anyone is looking for a fun toy ... VirtualBox is pretty cool. I've got Vista running in a virtual machine on my Linux host and it works amazingly well. I'm not getting all of Vista's fancy effects (a good thing?) but otherwise both OS's run lickity split on the same hardware at the same time, even with FlightGear going full tilt on the Linux side ... pretty cool stuff! The lack of windows support is a serious knock against using git in a multi-platform project. Has this been addressed since I looked into this the last time, or are there plans to address it? What Martin is referring to is a read only git mirror of the official FlightGear CVS repository so it should cause no harm as long as we are careful not to develop official dependencies that can only be supported on a single operating system. Curt. -- Curtis Olson: http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/ - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT; Was: _Sport Model_
Frederic ! Frederic Bouvier wrote: > how git is supported on systems that are not Linux ? Depends on whom you ask. I know that GIT support on Windows machines had been somewhat whacky for quite a while. Primarily GIT had been relying on some Unix filesystem features that had not been available on Windows - Mac OS X is not an issue because it basically is a Unix. I suspect James Turner is successfully using GIT on the Mac. I know about this GIT client implementation on Windows: http://code.google.com/p/msysgit/ but I don't have any opportunity to check wether it works. I'd welcome you to try it out and report back on this very list. Salut, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT; Was: _Sport Model_
Hi Curt, Hi Martin, how git is supported on systems that are not Linux ? -Fred - Curtis Olson a écrit : > Hey Martin, > > I guess I'd like to ponder this a little while longer. Should be no > problem > to use the existing mapserver name (i.e. not having git.flightgear.org > just > yet doesn't impede anyone's development progress), and I guess I'd > like to > spend some more time thinking about how official we want to make our > project's git support. > > Regards, > > Curt. > > > On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 3:26 AM, Martin Spott > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > > Pigeon wrote: > > > > > Ah, I did not notice it's only providing http access. The last > time > > > I tried (maybe a year ago) http was much much slower than git's > > > protocol. I think git protocol access is definitely a ++ :) > > > > Ok, try it out - I've adjusted the instructions accordingly at: > > > > http://mapserver.flightgear.org/git/gitweb.pl > > > > Martin. -- Frédéric Bouvier http://my.fotolia.com/frfoto/ Photo gallery - album photo http://fgsd.sourceforge.net/ FlightGear Scenery Designer - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT; Was: _Sport Model_
Hey Martin, I guess I'd like to ponder this a little while longer. Should be no problem to use the existing mapserver name (i.e. not having git.flightgear.org just yet doesn't impede anyone's development progress), and I guess I'd like to spend some more time thinking about how official we want to make our project's git support. Regards, Curt. On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 3:26 AM, Martin Spott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Pigeon wrote: > > > Ah, I did not notice it's only providing http access. The last time > > I tried (maybe a year ago) http was much much slower than git's > > protocol. I think git protocol access is definitely a ++ :) > > Ok, try it out - I've adjusted the instructions accordingly at: > > http://mapserver.flightgear.org/git/gitweb.pl > > Martin. > -- > Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! > -- > > - > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's > challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great > prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > ___ > Flightgear-devel mailing list > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel > -- Curtis Olson: http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/ - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT; Was: _Sport Model_
Pigeon wrote: > Ah, I did not notice it's only providing http access. The last time > I tried (maybe a year ago) http was much much slower than git's > protocol. I think git protocol access is definitely a ++ :) Ok, try it out - I've adjusted the instructions accordingly at: http://mapserver.flightgear.org/git/gitweb.pl Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT; Was: _Sport Model_
> Hi Pigeon, I hope you're doing well ! I'm good! :) > Should be feasible, network bandwidth seemingly is not an issue and the > machine just got an upgrade to 32 GByte RAM. If people dislike GIT over > HTTP, then I'd check with our 'sponsor' wether I might set up an > anonymous GIT daemon. Yet, according to my tests, the performance of a > git-clone is almost the same. Ah, I did not notice it's only providing http access. The last time I tried (maybe a year ago) http was much much slower than git's protocol. I think git protocol access is definitely a ++ :) Pigeon. - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT; Was: _Sport Model_
Hi Pigeon, I hope you're doing well ! Pigeon wrote: > Having a central git repo would be great. Perhaps we could use the > one at mapserver.flightgear.org Martin mentioned? Maybe have a > git.flightgear.org subdomain or something. Should be feasible, network bandwidth seemingly is not an issue and the machine just got an upgrade to 32 GByte RAM. If people dislike GIT over HTTP, then I'd check with our 'sponsor' wether I might set up an anonymous GIT daemon. Yet, according to my tests, the performance of a git-clone is almost the same. Cheers, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT; Was: _Sport Model_
> I know some others use the GIT repo at: > > [1]http://mapserver.flightgear.org/git/gitweb.pl > > as a reference. Maybe now it's the right time to unify on one single > repository, > >I'm using git quite happily, it's working well as a way of tracking my >different threads of development and submitting clean patches. I hadn't >realised there were so many also using it (with different mirrors) >So, yes, definitely a vote for agreeing on one mirror. FWIW, mine is at http://pigeond.net/git/ FG source/data and SG source updates are triggered by cvs log e-mails. Having a central git repo would be great. Perhaps we could use the one at mapserver.flightgear.org Martin mentioned? Maybe have a git.flightgear.org subdomain or something. I know quite a few people have been using my repo. But I'd like to point out that my server's network (mainly upstream) has been very saturated these days during MP peak hours. And the situation is not going to get any better, as MP is getting more and more popular (which is a good thing of course). And yes, we need more MP servers :) Pigeon. - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT; Was: _Sport Model_
On 17 Aug 2008, at 17:22, Martin Spott wrote: I know some others use the GIT repo at: http://mapserver.flightgear.org/git/gitweb.pl as a reference. Maybe now it's the right time to unify on one single repository, I'm using git quite happily, it's working well as a way of tracking my different threads of development and submitting clean patches. I hadn't realised there were so many also using it (with different mirrors) So, yes, definitely a vote for agreeing on one mirror. James - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] GIT; Was: _Sport Model_
Timothy Moore wrote: > It would be especially great to base your merges from CVS on the git mirrors > at > pigeond.net, as several of us use that. I know some others use the GIT repo at: http://mapserver.flightgear.org/git/gitweb.pl as a reference. Maybe now it's the right time to unify on one single repository, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
