Re: [Flightgear-devel] Google Earth FlightSimulator

2007-09-04 Thread Pigeon
>Last year I did a integration between FlightGear and a autonomous
>navigation system made by my enterprise to a research institute in Brazil
>and another team of project did a module to integrate the navigation
>system information (based on FlightGear's information) with Google Earth
>and seems to work very fine.
> 
>The basic idea is create (and update) a XML file, into specific Google
>Earth directory, and this file contains specific tags that Goggle earth
>read and execute the commands described by each tag. Google earth read
>this file in specific time interval, then you can update this file with
>same time rate of Google earth is waiting for.
> 
>Try search a information about this on Google earth website.


I played with FG and GE a while ago:

http://pigeond.net/blog.html?cat=flightgear&comments=fgge


The major problem was that with GE it only updates at quickest once
every one second (typical GPS update rate I was told), no matter what
you do.

And the second thing is getting GE to "follow" the plane nicely.

Though these were a few GE versions back, and I haven't looked at it
since.



Pigeon.


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Google Earth FlightSimulator

2007-09-04 Thread Leidson Campos A. Ferreira
Hello AnMaster,

Last year I did a integration between FlightGear and a autonomous navigation
system made by my enterprise to a research institute in Brazil and another
team of project did a module to integrate the navigation system information
(based on FlightGear's information) with Google Earth and seems to work very
fine.

The basic idea is create (and update) a XML file, into specific Google Earth
directory, and this file contains specific tags that Goggle earth read and
execute the commands described by each tag. Google earth read this file in
specific time interval, then you can update this file with same time rate of
Google earth is waiting for.

Try search a information about this on Google earth website.

Leidson Campos
PlanetaMessenger.org


On 9/4/07, AnMaster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Someone should contact them and ask them for ways to integrate google
> earth
> into flightgear.
>
> I tested the google earth flightsim yesterday, the scenery looks very nice
> in
> some places but is very bad in others (like around my local airport,
> ESOE).
> Also many runways are extremely uneven, much more than realistic. The
> aircraft
> doesn't handle very realistically either.
>
> /AnMaster
>
> Erik Hofman wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > It looks like google provides a simple flight simulator with googlemaps:
> > http://marco-za.blogspot.com/2007/08/google-earth-flight-simulator.html
> >
> > Looking at the screenshots it does remind me of an early version of
> > FlightGear (which might or might not be true), but most of the key
> > strokes match flightgear dead on:
> >
> > http://earth.google.com/intl/en/userguide/v4/flightsim/index.html
> >
> > This makes one wonder..
> >
> > Erik
> >
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Google Earth FlightSimulator

2007-09-04 Thread AnMaster
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Holger Wirtz wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> On Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 11:07:02AM +0200, AnMaster wrote:
>> Someone should contact them and ask them for ways to integrate google earth
>> into flightgear.
> 
> I spoke to Alex Perry from Google at LinuxTag2007 in Berlin. I asked him
> how FlightGera can use GoogleMaps as scenery.
> 
> The problem behind is the licensing. They cannot give away the data
> without restrictions or something like a deal. Here is the last email
> from Alex:
> 
> --- cut here ---
>I enjoyed chatting to you at LinuxTag.  Let me know if you come up
> with
> a viable model whereby an open source project such as TerraGear could
> reasonably collaborate with a for-profit corporation such as Google.
> Bear
> in mind that there are other similar open source projects out there, as
> well
> as other companies with licensed data.  Unlike TerraGear, some of the
> other
> open source projects are also legally not-for-profit entities and this
> may
> assist you in proposing collaboration opportunities.
> --- cut here ---
> 
> But perhaps someone on the list has an idea how to work together with
> Google?
What about providing hooks for google earth to integrate into flightgear
instead of the other way around? I'm not a lawyer but couldn't that solve the
issues? So google earth does the rendering and only uses flightgear for the
FDM, MP and such.

/AnMaster

> 
> Regards, Holger
> 
>> I tested the google earth flightsim yesterday, the scenery looks very nice in
>> some places but is very bad in others (like around my local airport, ESOE).
>> Also many runways are extremely uneven, much more than realistic. The 
>> aircraft
>> doesn't handle very realistically either.
>>
>> /AnMaster

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Google Earth FlightSimulator

2007-09-04 Thread Holger Wirtz
Hi all,

On Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 11:07:02AM +0200, AnMaster wrote:
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> 
> Someone should contact them and ask them for ways to integrate google earth
> into flightgear.

I spoke to Alex Perry from Google at LinuxTag2007 in Berlin. I asked him
how FlightGera can use GoogleMaps as scenery.

The problem behind is the licensing. They cannot give away the data
without restrictions or something like a deal. Here is the last email
from Alex:

--- cut here ---
   I enjoyed chatting to you at LinuxTag.  Let me know if you come up
with
a viable model whereby an open source project such as TerraGear could
reasonably collaborate with a for-profit corporation such as Google.
Bear
in mind that there are other similar open source projects out there, as
well
as other companies with licensed data.  Unlike TerraGear, some of the
other
open source projects are also legally not-for-profit entities and this
may
assist you in proposing collaboration opportunities.
--- cut here ---

But perhaps someone on the list has an idea how to work together with
Google?

Regards, Holger

> I tested the google earth flightsim yesterday, the scenery looks very nice in
> some places but is very bad in others (like around my local airport, ESOE).
> Also many runways are extremely uneven, much more than realistic. The aircraft
> doesn't handle very realistically either.
> 
> /AnMaster
> 
> Erik Hofman wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > It looks like google provides a simple flight simulator with googlemaps:
> > http://marco-za.blogspot.com/2007/08/google-earth-flight-simulator.html
> > 
> > Looking at the screenshots it does remind me of an early version of
> > FlightGear (which might or might not be true), but most of the key
> > strokes match flightgear dead on:
> > 
> > http://earth.google.com/intl/en/userguide/v4/flightsim/index.html
> > 
> > This makes one wonder..
> > 
> > Erik
> > 
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Google Earth FlightSimulator

2007-09-04 Thread AnMaster
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Someone should contact them and ask them for ways to integrate google earth
into flightgear.

I tested the google earth flightsim yesterday, the scenery looks very nice in
some places but is very bad in others (like around my local airport, ESOE).
Also many runways are extremely uneven, much more than realistic. The aircraft
doesn't handle very realistically either.

/AnMaster

Erik Hofman wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> It looks like google provides a simple flight simulator with googlemaps:
> http://marco-za.blogspot.com/2007/08/google-earth-flight-simulator.html
> 
> Looking at the screenshots it does remind me of an early version of
> FlightGear (which might or might not be true), but most of the key
> strokes match flightgear dead on:
> 
> http://earth.google.com/intl/en/userguide/v4/flightsim/index.html
> 
> This makes one wonder..
> 
> Erik
> 
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[Flightgear-devel] Google Earth FlightSimulator

2007-09-03 Thread Erik Hofman

Hi,

It looks like google provides a simple flight simulator with googlemaps:
http://marco-za.blogspot.com/2007/08/google-earth-flight-simulator.html

Looking at the screenshots it does remind me of an early version of
FlightGear (which might or might not be true), but most of the key
strokes match flightgear dead on:

http://earth.google.com/intl/en/userguide/v4/flightsim/index.html

This makes one wonder..

Erik


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